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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 12 2015 23:06 GMT
#161
On June 13 2015 08:05 Sonnington wrote:
Show nested quote +
[New Item] Enchantment: Runeglaive
Builds out of [Sheen + Jungle Item + 200g]
Stats:
40 AP
200 Mana
+10% Cooldown Reduction
UNIQUE Passive - Spellblade: After using an ability, the next basic attack is converted into magic damage and deals 75% Base Attack Damage (+30% of Ability Power) bonus magic damage on hit in an AoE around the target (1.5 second cooldown). When attacking a monster, this also restores 6% of your missing Mana."

Finally! This is such a good change for AP junglers, particularly Diana. Can you imagine how fast Malzahar will be able to clear now that he'll have an AOE sheen proc?

is this removing the other AP thing that they already have?
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
June 12 2015 23:10 GMT
#162
On June 13 2015 08:06 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 08:05 Sonnington wrote:
[New Item] Enchantment: Runeglaive
Builds out of [Sheen + Jungle Item + 200g]
Stats:
40 AP
200 Mana
+10% Cooldown Reduction
UNIQUE Passive - Spellblade: After using an ability, the next basic attack is converted into magic damage and deals 75% Base Attack Damage (+30% of Ability Power) bonus magic damage on hit in an AoE around the target (1.5 second cooldown). When attacking a monster, this also restores 6% of your missing Mana."

Finally! This is such a good change for AP junglers, particularly Diana. Can you imagine how fast Malzahar will be able to clear now that he'll have an AOE sheen proc?

is this removing the other AP thing that they already have?

Yes.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
June 12 2015 23:12 GMT
#163
On June 13 2015 06:58 Frolossus wrote:
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On June 13 2015 04:44 Celial wrote:
On June 13 2015 04:30 Alaric wrote:
Screw 'em, I don't want to create a facebook account.


I don't qualify anyways, I have less than 10 champions left unlocked.

(Ekko, Kalista, Azir, Volibear, Talon)

qualify for what?



One of the milestones for the pool party event is that you get a free mystery champion gift to yourself - if you use the new facebook connect friend finder thingy.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 12 2015 23:23 GMT
#164
Runeglaive is going to be so much fun on jungle Fizz/Ekko.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 12 2015 23:27 GMT
#165
On June 13 2015 08:12 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 06:58 Frolossus wrote:
On June 13 2015 04:44 Celial wrote:
On June 13 2015 04:30 Alaric wrote:
Screw 'em, I don't want to create a facebook account.


I don't qualify anyways, I have less than 10 champions left unlocked.

(Ekko, Kalista, Azir, Volibear, Talon)

qualify for what?



One of the milestones for the pool party event is that you get a free mystery champion gift to yourself - if you use the new facebook connect friend finder thingy.

ah, i should've waited out to buy ekko then and saved the ip to get him for free.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 12 2015 23:42 GMT
#166
That item is going to be so OP it's not even remotely funny.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 12 2015 23:48 GMT
#167
On June 13 2015 07:31 Alaric wrote:
That's the thing: you do more damage early on because resistances are lower, lifesteal often absent, etc.
Later on you have the AP to increase the %damage, but overall you don't necessarily do more because the base damage (especially on Q and her passive) doesn't grow and people still get more MR, lifesteal, etc.
So early-midgame your combo does 40% of their HP or something but spiderlings+autoattacks (and the bonus on-hit) makes the remaining fast to burn. Later you do 55% with some AP/pen but the rest of your damage is way too low to blow whatever HP is left in a timely manner.

Also people group and stuff like shields, aegis' aura, etc. play a part. In 2v2s you can combo someone down to 40% health, skirmish till your cooldowns are back up and finish him off. In full-blown teamfights you won't put someone so low, and even if you do there are still 4 others to take care of, and you can't stay and fight them waiting for your cooldowns.

Making Elise tankier won't make her lategame better, so I'd be fine with buffing (carefully) her early-mid. League needs more champions strong enough early to warrant playing them even when Azir, Jinx, and other shit is available, anyway.


Elise's kit still has too much frontloaded burst as part of its design, plus the towerdive powtential with E(Spider) is hard to balance. . For a while they turned her into a skillshot stun bot, but that was a very meta-dependent style. Her power needs to be removed from Q, and put in W, and maybe into passive spiderlings.
Freeeeeeedom
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 13 2015 00:11 GMT
#168
--- Nuked ---
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 13 2015 00:13 GMT
#169
Jungle Karma incoming
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 13 2015 00:26 GMT
#170
http://blog.dota2.com/2015/06/dota-2-reborn/

meanwhile at Rito Games...
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LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
June 13 2015 00:36 GMT
#171
On June 13 2015 09:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://blog.dota2.com/2015/06/dota-2-reborn/

meanwhile at Rito Games...


This is definitely needed, at least on the UI front. Dota 2 has arguably the worst UI I've ever had the displeasure of using.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
June 13 2015 00:41 GMT
#172
On June 13 2015 09:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://blog.dota2.com/2015/06/dota-2-reborn/

meanwhile at Rito Games...

DW, we got chromas!
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 13 2015 00:43 GMT
#173
VISUAL HIERARCHY
CONSISTENT COLOR PALETTE
COMMON UI ELEMENTS
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 13 2015 00:43 GMT
#174
On June 13 2015 09:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://blog.dota2.com/2015/06/dota-2-reborn/

meanwhile at Rito Games...


I'm trying to cut through the fluff of that article. But basically they're updating the UI, graphics engine, and letting people make custom games?

Yeah, Dota 2's UI is a bit clunky, and the graphics look like they were built to run on a ps2, but it's still a decent MOBA.

As for the PBE changes to Magus, it's basically meant to try and let AP junglers (read: Diana, Elise, Ekko, Fizz, Nidalee) build a mini Lich Bane out of the jungle. It'll probably only help Diana, Fizz, and Ekko the most though, not that Nidalee wouldn't benefit from it.

But again, the issues with AP junglers is not what they build in the jungle, it's getting them items once they get out of it so they aren't completely useless (compared to Warrior's where AD junglers usually have something in their kit to let them be useful outside of the jungle). And the moment Riot buffs these AP junglers they just end up back in lane somewhere because if they're even remotely playable from the jungle, then getting them lane gold, exp, and kills means they'll be op op.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 00:49:11
June 13 2015 00:44 GMT
#175
I stiill really hate the DotA observer UI. This seems so redundant, I don't like how it's always from one hero pov instead of dropping that space for a scoreboard or just nothing either.

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'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 13 2015 00:48 GMT
#176
ur in the game
u are troll warlord
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 13 2015 00:49 GMT
#177
league players rly think their ui and client is better than dota's???
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 00:55:26
June 13 2015 00:54 GMT
#178
On June 13 2015 09:49 ahswtini wrote:
league players rly think their ui and client is better than dota's???


Are you serious?

League's UI and client is shit tier. It was shit back in 2010 and it's still shit now. Hell, Riot themselves have said it's shit and know it's shit, they just aren't that concerned with getting a new, better UI and client up and running, as more pressing concerns (server issues, bug fixes, etc.) are more important.

Isn't League's UI and client running off fucking Silverlight or something like that?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 13 2015 01:03 GMT
#179
On June 13 2015 09:54 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:49 ahswtini wrote:
league players rly think their ui and client is better than dota's???


Are you serious?

League's UI and client is shit tier. It was shit back in 2010 and it's still shit now. Hell, Riot themselves have said it's shit and know it's shit, they just aren't that concerned with getting a new, better UI and client up and running, as more pressing concerns (server issues, bug fixes, etc.) are more important.

Isn't League's UI and client running off fucking Silverlight or something like that?

adobe air.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-13 01:04:19
June 13 2015 01:04 GMT
#180
On June 13 2015 09:54 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 09:49 ahswtini wrote:
league players rly think their ui and client is better than dota's???


Are you serious?

League's UI and client is shit tier. It was shit back in 2010 and it's still shit now. Hell, Riot themselves have said it's shit and know it's shit, they just aren't that concerned with getting a new, better UI and client up and running, as more pressing concerns (server issues, bug fixes, etc.) are more important.

Isn't League's UI and client running off fucking Silverlight or something like that?


Rebuilding client should have been priority since game became big, it's not a newsflash that Riot didn't expect game to become that big in 2009 so they just built client on Adobe Air.

I seriously can play with bunch of bugs, if I just stop freezing, bugsplatting, failing to reconnect and so on.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
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