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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On May 02 2015 23:39 kongoline wrote: why am i not surprised riven so often defended buy her mains with high skillcap and hard to play arguments is at the top of winrate and popularity -.- Didn't they make Riven Q auto anim cancel for you now? Did they ever fix that? | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 03 2015 00:26 Ansibled wrote: Didn't they make Riven Q auto anim cancel for you now? Did they ever fix that? It never went live. It was never an intentional change. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
TIL: - Yasuo's Q can crit and triggers on-hit effect such as lifesteal, but contrary to Ez's Q, GP's Q, Fiora's ult, etc. it does not trigger Thornmail. Yeah no surprise I can barely dent him with tanks, that's pretty bullshit though. - Either he can't be cc'd, or he becomes untargetable during his ult. I used mine as Nautilus at the same time he used his Q3, and he didn't get knocked-up during his ult. His shield didn't take damage either so I assume he becomes untargetable, making Naut's ult (and prob a bunch of other spells) disappear.. It happens with Fizz's pole and Vlad's pool (not sure about Fiora and Yi) so it wouldn't be surprising, but the untargetable for 1s + shield + cc would make his ult pretty darn dumb in terms of survivability. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On May 03 2015 02:28 Alaric wrote: They didn't push it through, it was on PBE and people were pretty upset. TIL: - Yasuo's Q can crit and triggers on-hit effect such as lifesteal, but contrary to Ez's Q, GP's Q, Fiora's ult, etc. it does not trigger Thornmail. Yeah no surprise I can barely dent him with tanks, that's pretty bullshit though. - Either he can't be cc'd, or he becomes untargetable during his ult. I used mine as Nautilus at the same time he used his Q3, and he didn't get knocked-up during his ult. His shield didn't take damage either so I assume he becomes untargetable, making Naut's ult (and prob a bunch of other spells) disappear.. It happens with Fizz's pole and Vlad's pool (not sure about Fiora and Yi) so it wouldn't be surprising, but the untargetable for 1s + shield + cc would make his ult pretty darn dumb in terms of survivability. I believe he can't be CCed during his ult, though any damage a skill does will apply. I know for a fact I've killed a Yasuo mid ult so it's not that he becomes untargettable (I've killed him w/ Vi ult and Lissandra ult). | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I'm not 100% sure about Naut's ult's behaviour (initially it uses to refund the cooldown when Vlad used his pool or Akali turned stealthed by casting her shroud for example, it was changed at some point without a mention in patch notes; it was a weird behaviour anyway), but in most cases the ult is cancelled when people become untargetable so I assume that's what it was. Not sure why it didn't do anything to Yasuo then. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 02 2015 23:29 Ansibled wrote: Current winrates. http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend Rito pls make Lee Sin better. I thought Viktor would be higher. Viktor was only ever a hard farming mid lane when you wanted to delay the game and/or play a 5 man whombo comp. He was never good in soloqueue, even at the height of his LCS usage | ||
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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 03 2015 05:03 Chemiczny84 wrote: his shield renews as soon as he ults maybe the timing was perfect Nah dude, it's Alaric. Has to be a bug. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On May 03 2015 05:03 Chemiczny84 wrote: his shield renews as soon as he ults maybe the timing was perfect Yeah, but since his ult is instant (and he "tp"s to the targets) I assumed either my ult hits him, he's cc'd, he can't ult me, or the ult reaches him afterwards, and by then he has his shield. Gahlo if you weren't so preoccupied with yourself trying to look smug, maybe you'd realise I spend as much time talking about bugs (someone told me about Ahri's Charm interrupting Vi's ult today, but I hink he confused it with Q) as I do actually asking about game mechanics so I can understand stuff better when I encounter unexpected results. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On May 03 2015 03:12 Alaric wrote: Oh? That's weird then, because he didn't have a wall out (it stops Naut's ult) but it still didn't cc him and his shield remained full (so he didn't take damage), but my ult was on cd (and it started casting before Yasuo used his). I'm not 100% sure about Naut's ult's behaviour (initially it uses to refund the cooldown when Vlad used his pool or Akali turned stealthed by casting her shroud for example, it was changed at some point without a mention in patch notes; it was a weird behaviour anyway), but in most cases the ult is cancelled when people become untargetable so I assume that's what it was. Not sure why it didn't do anything to Yasuo then. I know that there's a weird interaction with how CC reacts to Yasuo in his ult. From what I could tell, the game wants the full animation to go through (the whole lifting foes into the air into Omnislash animation before ground slam) but he's still able to be hit by spells and attacks. It might be that the teleport portion of the ult acts like a Zhonyas or Zed ult where he straight up leaves the map for a quarter of a second, meaning any sort of point and click damage skill just vanishes. In my prior example when I Vi ulted him it was after he teleported and was in the animation of his ult, I've never had a Vi ult go on a Yasuo and then have him TP/ult in response before she hits and begins her grab+lift+slam animation. On May 03 2015 06:03 Alaric wrote: Yeah, but since his ult is instant (and he "tp"s to the targets) I assumed either my ult hits him, he's cc'd, he can't ult me, or the ult reaches him afterwards, and by then he has his shield. Gahlo if you weren't so preoccupied with yourself trying to look smug, maybe you'd realise I spend as much time talking about bugs (someone told me about Ahri's Charm interrupting Vi's ult today, but I hink he confused it with Q) as I do actually asking about game mechanics so I can understand stuff better when I encounter unexpected results. It was a bug with how Ahri's Charm interrupted Vi's ult, which was fixed in this patch (they mention it in the patch notes). Right now I think the only people that can "fizzle" a Vi ult are Zed ult, Lissandra ult, a Zhonyas activation, and (I suspect) a Bard ult on whomever Vi has targetted. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Vlad's pool, Fizz's pole, and probably Yi's Q too (noone plays Yi so I didn't encounter it) make it "fizzle" and Vi stops where she is when the spell is used. It cuts Naut's ult too, so I assume any projectile and ongoing cast just "fizzles" when the target becomes untargetable (Maokai's W is the exception, if he's in flight he'll follow them and "hover" around until they reappear to root them, I don't know if there are others). Because Shaco's ult can let him dodge Requiem with proper timing, it probably disjoints all these too. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On May 03 2015 06:03 Alaric wrote: Yeah, but since his ult is instant (and he "tp"s to the targets) I assumed either my ult hits him, he's cc'd, he can't ult me, or the ult reaches him afterwards, and by then he has his shield. Gahlo if you weren't so preoccupied with yourself trying to look smug, maybe you'd realise I spend as much time talking about bugs (someone told me about Ahri's Charm interrupting Vi's ult today, but I hink he confused it with Q) as I do actually asking about game mechanics so I can understand stuff better when I encounter unexpected results. It was a joke. You know, humor? I'd only try to be smug about it if after getting your answer you denied it as being a bug. I'm not the first person here to make it. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Sure, when I'm whining I deserve it, but people got so used to the "fotm" joke of making fun of me that a bunch don't consider the posts anymore and just try to be witty even when I try to start a discussion. It gets old. In another topic, how often do people run Trailblazer? I played mostly Olaf when the s5 jungle rolled out so I got used to Stalker's Blade for the slow, and I use it with Nautilus too (some more cc, plus he can use the bonus MS with his atrocious base). I noticed with Amumu I'd get low on my first clear (prob bad runes, I should try AS/AP marks/quints, same with Gragas, over MPen/AP or AD/AS), and I'd often lack mana. Gragas can be mana-hungry too early on, if using the Skirmisher's, so I thought maybe cutting it could be useful. The smite doesn't do that much damage after all, and Olaf's a different case since ensuring a Q hit is a Flash burnt or kill usually and he's got no gap closers. I have trouble picturing me without the additional cc but maybe it's just a mental block and Trailblazer would make up for it by letting me gank more often, especially with "active" junglers, by keeping me healthy/with mana to use abilities. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 03 2015 07:29 LightningStrike wrote: I think wickd just trolls in solo queue because that is a insanely bad build for malphite to g becuase he loves armor and health but not ad.... He has the biggest AD steroid in the game???? it's just not practical | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On May 03 2015 07:32 Slusher wrote: He has the biggest AD steroid in the game???? it's just not practical It only goes up with how much armor you got on him I think. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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