EPT[Patch 5.8] Ryze Rework General Discussion - Page 19
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Kaethis
Netherlands112 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On May 02 2015 05:05 cLutZ wrote: Well, first of all, that's a myth, and second of all, 13000 gold till your build is online is a recipe for disaster. Particularly if you are a champ like Vayne that is terrible before she's online. You're vayne. You're online at BT and PD. The second PD is for movement/kite/w. You're buying it because you're buying an attack speed item so it might as well be the one that scales with crit compared to the ones that dont | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On May 02 2015 10:18 Goumindong wrote: You're vayne. You're online at BT and PD. The second PD is for movement/kite/w. You're buying it because you're buying an attack speed item so it might as well be the one that scales with crit compared to the ones that dont I really think double PD is a goofy build that is both not good and creates a massive power trough. Edit 1: At that point IMO it would be better to have a BT/PD/LW Lucian, and continue to be better until after they both finished IE. 2: This linked on reddit disappointed me so much, I thought it was an article about Ambition's jungle renaissance. | ||
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
nobody would blink an eye if you had a BT, but even though you actually have more offensive stats with ER, you're pretty much guaranteed to get some more moron saying something like "omg adc no damage". | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 02 2015 12:59 chalice wrote: definitely mute your team the instant you buy essence reaver, it's the obvious target for a feeding teammate who is looking to shift the focus/blame away from himself. nobody would blink an eye if you had a BT, but even though you actually have more offensive stats with ER, you're pretty much guaranteed to get some more moron saying something like "omg adc no damage". yeah, but no one builds BT first on lucian anyways... You should be getting IE, in which case the offensive stat is beyond stronger. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On May 02 2015 13:22 wei2coolman wrote: yeah, but no one builds BT first on lucian anyways... You should be getting IE, in which case the offensive stat is beyond stronger. Let me tell you a story about a man named Bang... | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 02 2015 13:35 cLutZ wrote: Let me tell you a story about a man named Bang... Let me tell you a story about how in soloq your ad is not bang and your team is not sktt1... | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On May 02 2015 05:44 Fildun wrote: Teut can you explain to me why I sometimes go 6/0 vs Vlad in lane and sometimes can't do shit vs him? I feel like there isn't that much different in what I'm doing and in what he's doing, but apparently there are a lot of intricacies about the matchup I'm missing Talking about Garen of course. dunno i have the opposite experience once it gets past 11 i just dumpster him usually once your q tends to max rank he cant really escape you so as long as you dont do stupid shit you're fine you have good regen too past 11 so its not like he has a huge sustain advantage and you can always run away when you want to | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4122 Posts
On May 02 2015 19:41 Slayer91 wrote: dunno i have the opposite experience once it gets past 11 i just dumpster him usually once your q tends to max rank he cant really escape you so as long as you dont do stupid shit you're fine you have good regen too past 11 so its not like he has a huge sustain advantage and you can always run away when you want to Getting to level 11 takes a long time, and at that point usually I can just spin2win the wave anyway, more looking for stuff before that. Ofcourse with maxed Q you win, but without that I dunno. Sometimes they just roll over and other times they don't. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
anyways 6-11 is tricky just play better and you win easy | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4729 Posts
On May 02 2015 20:07 Slayer91 wrote: anyways 6-11 is tricky just play better and you win easy Best advice of the year here and I wish I was sarcastic.. To go back on adc itemization, I think that BT or even ER vs IE first item isn't so bad for ads simply because you can change your playstyle alot more. Sure you'll be weaker somewhat in teamfights, but in small skirmishes where you can fight a war of attrition and laning is still going, or small jungle fights, you might actually pull ahead overall. 23% lifesteal (BT + dorans) is quite alot.. And you also have to realise: it costs less and only 1 in 5 shots will crit for 250%. Ofcourse you'll be the recipient of 3 in a row, but you just gotta roll with the punches I guess  | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
Dunno why you guys are arguing about ADC's though. Most popular ADCs in Chinese masters/challenger remains Vayne Kalista and Lucian. Draven gets focused too damn hard early on but is still a damn beast if allowed to get ahead. Graves and Corki are decent, and Urgot remains unpopular as fuck. Ezreal is a still a favorite among the koreans on the Chinese ladder, and Sivir is still Sivir Honestly though, Vayne is viewed more of an assassin than a tank buster now. Shes too unstable for both the opponents and her teammates. Honestly if you want a tank buster ADC go Kogmaw and have something like Nunu, LuLu, Nautilus, Azir or something like that. Vayne's range is too low to fight the current meta's tanks competitively...she'll just get comboed down. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend Rito pls make Lee Sin better. I thought Viktor would be higher. | ||
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kongoline
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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