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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 17 2015 21:32 GMT
#641
On April 18 2015 06:09 nafta wrote:
It is a hypotethical situation lol.The reason you die is cuz you make bad plays.


Translation: I am a god and I don't make mistakes, suck my X/0/Y KDA noob
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-17 21:37:58
April 17 2015 21:37 GMT
#642
On April 18 2015 06:29 Fildun wrote:
Krndandaman says he pulls off a successful 2v2 dive, but what he describes is in no way an actual good dive.

Why?If the wave is pushing in and you dont use heal while trading 2 for 2 is worth(or I guess can be depends too broad) and if the jungler wasn't there it would be a 2 for 1.Can imagine quite a few situations where that exact thing happens as well if that is what you meant.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 17 2015 22:19 GMT
#643
On April 17 2015 23:42 Gahlo wrote:
From that same section:

Our stance isn't that the player who has first pick should ignore his team and auto lock. It's that players should try to collaborate to form a team.

While Raph is pretty "fuck you, I'm picking support, lalalala" in this situation. Not that I'm quoting him.



Just to point out that Raphael's MAIN ROLE is support. So while Lustboy is a LCS support, are we to assume that for some reason he can't play any other role more optimally than Raphael? Give me a break, this has nothing to do with "You should let Lustboy play support because that's omg TSM", it's Lustboy being a troll because he didn't get his way because he's some sort of net celebrity and this shit gets old.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 17 2015 22:19 GMT
#644
wow all these years I thought Garen looked super lame and he's actually super fun, thanks Teut and TLLOLGD
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 17 2015 22:27 GMT
#645
Garen is really good. It's just that unless he faces his few good matchups, his laning phase is incredibly garbage.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
April 17 2015 22:50 GMT
#646
On April 18 2015 06:37 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 06:29 Fildun wrote:
Krndandaman says he pulls off a successful 2v2 dive, but what he describes is in no way an actual good dive.

Why?If the wave is pushing in and you dont use heal while trading 2 for 2 is worth(or I guess can be depends too broad) and if the jungler wasn't there it would be a 2 for 1.Can imagine quite a few situations where that exact thing happens as well if that is what you meant.

If you see their jungler and know that the enemy TP is on cooldown it's a good call, otherwise too risky to do a full on dive.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 18 2015 00:09 GMT
#647
On April 18 2015 07:19 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 23:42 Gahlo wrote:
From that same section:

Our stance isn't that the player who has first pick should ignore his team and auto lock. It's that players should try to collaborate to form a team.

While Raph is pretty "fuck you, I'm picking support, lalalala" in this situation. Not that I'm quoting him.



Just to point out that Raphael's MAIN ROLE is support. So while Lustboy is a LCS support, are we to assume that for some reason he can't play any other role more optimally than Raphael? Give me a break, this has nothing to do with "You should let Lustboy play support because that's omg TSM", it's Lustboy being a troll because he didn't get his way because he's some sort of net celebrity and this shit gets old.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he's on TSM. If we're going to assume that Lustboy can play any role better than a non-pro purely based around the fact that he's a pro played, we can also assume with just as much assurance that Lustboy can play support that much, if not more, better. It's also a disservice to Raph to assume that he needs to be on support or he gets bodied.

I'm all about putting the best players on their best positions. This isn't CLG. With all due respect, he wasn't the best support on his team.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 00:30:30
April 18 2015 00:29 GMT
#648
Not gonna become the best support if you don't practice it either though. I guess it depends on what you personally believe solo queue is for. I treat it for fun, and improvement, and wouldn't hesitate in the slightest to take a role I wanted.

If I was in challenger, I wouldn't care if someone took an LCS players role either.

Edit: Then again I'm pretty weird. I don't care THAT much about winning, and mostly care about my own performance. Sometimes I'll post in the Shikyo thread, but that's mostly just for fun.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
TheHumanSensation
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1210 Posts
April 18 2015 01:32 GMT
#649
On April 17 2015 22:15 krndandaman wrote:
hm I've been discussing this with my friend and I was wondering what others thought:

scenario: you pull off a successful 2v2 dive killing both enemies and your support dead but their jungler is coming.
you are taking tower aggro and bound to die unless you use heal. your flash was used during the dive. the adc was the last one to hit you.

do you
a) save heal? kill goes to their adc and assist goes to their support.
b) use heal? kill goes to their jungler and assist goes to their adc and support.

of course every situation will vary, but I think I would generally lean towards A.
my friend said he would go for B generally.


depends on pick order
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 01:43:12
April 18 2015 01:42 GMT
#650
On April 18 2015 09:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 07:19 KissBlade wrote:
On April 17 2015 23:42 Gahlo wrote:
From that same section:

Our stance isn't that the player who has first pick should ignore his team and auto lock. It's that players should try to collaborate to form a team.

While Raph is pretty "fuck you, I'm picking support, lalalala" in this situation. Not that I'm quoting him.



Just to point out that Raphael's MAIN ROLE is support. So while Lustboy is a LCS support, are we to assume that for some reason he can't play any other role more optimally than Raphael? Give me a break, this has nothing to do with "You should let Lustboy play support because that's omg TSM", it's Lustboy being a troll because he didn't get his way because he's some sort of net celebrity and this shit gets old.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he's on TSM. If we're going to assume that Lustboy can play any role better than a non-pro purely based around the fact that he's a pro played, we can also assume with just as much assurance that Lustboy can play support that much, if not more, better. It's also a disservice to Raph to assume that he needs to be on support or he gets bodied.

I'm all about putting the best players on their best positions. This isn't CLG. With all due respect, he wasn't the best support on his team.


?? I didn't say anything about him needing support except that he was earlier pick and wanted to play his main role. I only pointed out support was his main role because it justifies his pick even more than so.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 18 2015 04:07 GMT
#651
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 04:21:31
April 18 2015 04:21 GMT
#652
On April 18 2015 13:07 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 06:29 Fildun wrote:
Krndandaman says he pulls off a successful 2v2 dive, but what he describes is in no way an actual good dive.


its a hypothetical, this didn't happen to me lol.
and although not ideal, situations like that can occur

for ex. their support ignites my support as he tries to flash out and he's too far to heal
or
their adc flashes for my support as he tries to flash out and live after turret aggro and he's either too far to heal or will die regardless

etc.

I discussed this with my friend because we saw a similar situation in snake vs king game 5

If you want to play smart league of legends, I would not suggest following any examples from either of these teams. Lol
liftlift > tsm
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 18 2015 05:12 GMT
#653
im gonna guess that most pros can play any role at probably mid to high diamond level at a minimum though, and we're way past the days where someone who cant even soloq to plat plays for a pro team
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 06:12:16
April 18 2015 06:10 GMT
#654
Got like 2k IP out of the event so far, grinding games in Aram with friends. Unfortunately we could only play for around 2 hours before they went to bed. I'm hoping we get a good 3-5 hour Aram marathon tomorrow after the 3rd/4th place match in NA LCS.

Also, to my knowledge most pro gamers do have some mild to moderate experience playing any role, mainly relying on fotm champs to carry them when they don't get their main role.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 18 2015 08:34 GMT
#655
is ghostblade just complete shit on caitlyn or do you think it could be at least decent?
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
April 18 2015 09:15 GMT
#656
I think it might have some uses for repositioning during the active while the fight happens, or for early snowballing I guess.
Other than that I'd say it's suboptimal for dps output. You'd almost always want to build IE/PD/LW/BT/defensive item - or mercurial if you have enough protection. You could swap out the BT for Botrk if you're up against high hp targets, but that's about it.
Taxes are for Terrans
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 18 2015 10:10 GMT
#657


damn wish i was 1/10 as good on azir, bought him recently played 2 games and dropped because he seems too hard for me to put effort into learning that champion ;/
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 18 2015 10:51 GMT
#658
he, I didn't even know you could do the WEQ combo like that. Guess I should play more Azir. Hail Shurima.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 12:16:28
April 18 2015 12:16 GMT
#659
You couldn't at the start iirc, they changed it in a patch (I don't remember how it was initially, Azir stopped where the soldier was before the Q iirc?).

Although to be fair, almost all the clips are only basic stuff. You can sum up the video with "Azir uses E and Flash to bunch up the enemy team for his allies" and 3-4 other clips. That's good and all, but how does he play when he doesn't have both Flash and ult available then?
For the massacre at blue bot t1, there are at least 2 kills without an assist, meaning he 100-0'd these people with a few autos, the tower, and his ult. That screams "he's fed to hell" to me and I find these clips uninteresting because that's just a guy insanely ahead who could faceroll and dump the others. I'd be more interested to see how he got to this lead in the first place.

The pentakill is more legit though.
That's not to say that the clips are entirely devoid of interest, but the only one I see in most of them is his positioning to allow him these Flash-ult plays (and positioning is super important for Azir). Apart from that the plays themselves are the same thing rehashed over and over.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#660
I played Azir for the first time yesterday. Making the soldiers auto attack people seems pretty awkward.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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