EPTAll Guardian skins looks pretty nice except for Xerath IMO :\ Still works best for Skarner.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
All Guardian skins looks pretty nice except for Xerath IMO :\ Still works best for Skarner. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On March 25 2015 13:49 sob3k wrote: Karma does a lot more damage than lulu, and actually Karma has quite good waveclear, you just spam more. Mantra E is well over 1k shield over your whole team, a 60% speed boost, and 300+.6AP damage. Lulu aint got shit on that. Except that she doesn't do all that much more. Her Q and W are a bit better than Lulu's Q and E. Except that Lulu's Q and E are much easier to land (pass through/don't have to stand around in range for 2 seconds, 2 second 80% slow dominates a 1.5 second 25% slow). If Karma uses her mantra then she does do more but Lulu gets .15 AP ratio on each of her auto attacks (and from 9 to 105 bonus damage) and that adds up really really fast, especially if you put your shield on your ADC. (which you're going to want to do lategame as you transition to peel) On top of this, the big part of the kit, the speed up, lasts for 3 to 5 seconds for Lulu, and for 1.5 seconds for Karma. And sure Karma can do it on a much lower CD, but that won't help you in the bursts you need it. Plus you can turn that around and use it as hard CC. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/T9hB7MT.jpg) scuttler vision a lot smaller, but still a fair bit bigger then the circle :o | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 25 2015 13:22 sob3k wrote: I was just inspired to play a karma top game by this. I was laning vs wukong and his duo partner jungle zac who literally flash ulted me in lane on every cd. Then after lane they would both flash ult me pretty much every time they were in range. I went 1-8 and we won the game because they kept diving me like morons and getting cleaned up by the rest of my team. their katarina also went 21-6. They flash dove me one last time and everyone got cleaned up leaving only our jayce and jinx, who pushed through 4 towers and won the game. Damn what a throw. Yeah, there is no really great itemization for Karma top. You need CDR, manaregen, and survivability, but do no damage if you go tanky. Its basically impossible to get all of them, so you are just really vulnerable to allins as you very carefully lane with your fragile ass morellonomicon build. If only there was like a ROA but with CDR instead of mana. Why would you need to go tanky...? Just go morello into sorc shoes/haunting guise. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 25 2015 13:40 Goumindong wrote: Only if your rod is fully charged, you get one auto attack per QWE and your "more spells" continues that progression, the bonus move speed doesn't make it easier for you to continue an engage, you can't leverage the early power of the sheen, you don't crit... There are a lot of things you trade to have the lategame damage of a triforce and potentially a large shield. You'll also get more mana from frozen heart, and triforce will not do more damage late game because the majority of it will be physical and you have no armour pen. You're also ignoring the fact that Ryze's ult does AoE damage, and the fact that it gives movement speed makes the phage passive less useful. In a team fight, seraph's will significantly outperform triforce while costing 1k less gold. | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
"we're aiming for a more 'hit-and-run' pattern, giving her more control in bursts but less strength when just training someone down." So they want Evelynn to be a melee poke champ? I don't really understand. I've been playing Evelynn this season pretty successfully as a counter jungling, diving, bruiser. I know a lot of people are building triforce on her now and it's a lot better on her due to E proccing on hit effects. Is the idea supposed to be, you run up to someone with W, hit them with a E-Q then run away? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 25 2015 14:59 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Yo I'm loving it but I wish he did more deepz in lane. Q still hard to hit these days zz. Karma discussion makes me wonder if I should wish for Fizz buffs just to punish you for saying that. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Anyone tried him since the EQ buffs? | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
They could delete that champion and I'd be fine with it. So one dimensional, boring and nearly impossible to balance. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On March 25 2015 17:54 GolemMadness wrote: Luden's echo is pretty good as a 7th item on Karthus. Karthus with over 1,100 AP does some damage. I think there is a tonne of champs that would like Luden's as a 7th item  | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 25 2015 09:07 Goumindong wrote: So ignoring these ryze buffs for a bit. Why not triforce ryze? It is what he was originally intended to be used for. And his kit does lead naturally to use the early power of a sheen as well as the mana on many tanky items. You need about 300 AP to make Lichbane be an equivalent damage boost (minus Pen) and that means you can build catalyst into Righteus Glory instead of Rod(or hell, get both). It just seems like Rod/Glory, Triforce, Heart would make one hell of a sticky tanky ryze with a lot better consistent damage due to the Triforce procs than you would likely get from AP/Pen etc Nvm Maybe Ryze would do better with Triforce in an AD ryze build with like Manamune but I've never tried anything like that. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
On March 25 2015 15:48 killerdog wrote: + Show Spoiler + scuttler vision a lot smaller, but still a fair bit bigger then the circle :o Still you cannot cross through the river without being seen | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
It's also kind of slow how long they take to acquire their first target. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
On March 25 2015 08:44 MoonBear wrote: Jeebus the new Teemo skin teaser is horrifying. I hope this isnt an April fool cuz im totally going to buy this skin. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 25 2015 22:44 obesechicken13 wrote: I forgot to mention that bot games now have a large range indicator on inhib turrets. I don't think it was always this way. I think it used to be the regular turret range indicator. But I noticed that the inhib turrets will often switch to you before they switch to a minion just in their attack range. Their champion acquisition range is higher than their minion acquisition range. It's also kind of slow how long they take to acquire their first target. They also take ages to drop aggro, and it's made even worse by the permaslow. Thinking about how QSS works (I don't think it drops Fiddle's drain for example, but it drops Soul Shackles and Leblanc's Ethereal Chains before they pop). I'm wondering if it drops Swain's Decrepify, or Nidalee's "Hunted" status. But also can it cleanse debuffs like Gnar's exhausted state, to allow him to switch forms a second time in a dozen seconds? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On March 25 2015 22:52 Alaric wrote: They also take ages to drop aggro, and it's made even worse by the permaslow. Thinking about how QSS works (I don't think it drops Fiddle's drain for example, but it drops Soul Shackles and Leblanc's Ethereal Chains before they pop). I'm wondering if it drops Swain's Decrepify, or Nidalee's "Hunted" status. But also can it cleanse debuffs like Gnar's exhausted state, to allow him to switch forms a second time in a dozen seconds? I don't think Fiddle's drain is a debuff per se...QSS doesn't cleanse stuff like Nat or Vi ult either. So I'm getting back into ranked after not touching lol since last May, so I can buy graves (who I know already how to play), jinx, kalista, lucian or learn a role that isn't in the bot lane. OR I can keep just playing caitlyn every game and hope for win lane win game | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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