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On March 26 2015 04:35 Kinie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 03:47 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 26 2015 03:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. Neo why do you hate fun? I just go out of my way to hate on things you like. That's probably it. Edit: Which CN teams are running Kog? Last I watched in EU LCS, shit was boring as hell to watch. Was like 20 min in before first blood. afaik KRs haven't gone back to Kog either but as a region, they're not as ADC focused I suppose (compared to CN). And am I the only one who's getting a Vietnam-like feel from the new Teemo skin? Though that might be too old for most people (myself included) to get... Maybe it'd be better to compare it to the more recent Middle East conflicts?
No, its completely Vietnam themed and use many adaptations of famous Vietnam quotes.
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On March 26 2015 04:35 Kinie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 03:47 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 26 2015 03:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. Neo why do you hate fun? I just go out of my way to hate on things you like. That's probably it. Edit: Which CN teams are running Kog? Last I watched in EU LCS, shit was boring as hell to watch. Was like 20 min in before first blood. afaik KRs haven't gone back to Kog either but as a region, they're not as ADC focused I suppose (compared to CN). In LCK right now the GE Tigers are the only ones able to successfully run a 4 protect 1 comp built around Kog'Maw. If memory serves it's Lulu top, Janna sup, Nunu jungle, and a safe champion for mid (I want to say Ori but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong). Edit: And am I the only one who's getting a Vietnam-like feel from the new Teemo skin? Though that might be too old for most people (myself included) to get... Maybe it'd be better to compare it to the more recent Middle East conflicts?
Mid can be anything tbh. Personally I like the hardcore comp with morg top + lulu mid. But, I also see the benefits of running an assassin mid like Ahri or Zed to force enemies to blow cooldowns before Kog pain train comes in.
should have called it special forces teemo, so we can get a special forces skin team going around with gangplank and crew.
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On March 26 2015 03:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Kog is already a top competitive pick. Vayne is more problematic cause it doesn't matter how much damage you can potentially do if you can never live long enough to do it.
Bigger problem is that her build path sucks, you can't split push with botrk only anymore and botrk/pd isn't strong either.
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On March 26 2015 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 04:35 Kinie wrote:On March 26 2015 03:47 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 26 2015 03:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. Neo why do you hate fun? I just go out of my way to hate on things you like. That's probably it. Edit: Which CN teams are running Kog? Last I watched in EU LCS, shit was boring as hell to watch. Was like 20 min in before first blood. afaik KRs haven't gone back to Kog either but as a region, they're not as ADC focused I suppose (compared to CN). In LCK right now the GE Tigers are the only ones able to successfully run a 4 protect 1 comp built around Kog'Maw. If memory serves it's Lulu top, Janna sup, Nunu jungle, and a safe champion for mid (I want to say Ori but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong). Edit: And am I the only one who's getting a Vietnam-like feel from the new Teemo skin? Though that might be too old for most people (myself included) to get... Maybe it'd be better to compare it to the more recent Middle East conflicts? Mid can be anything tbh. Personally I like the hardcore comp with morg top + lulu mid. But, I also see the benefits of running an assassin mid like Ahri or Zed to force enemies to blow cooldowns before Kog pain train comes in. should have called it special forces teemo, so we can get a special forces skin team going around with gangplank and crew.
There area lot of good mids to do protect comps, depending on that exactly you need:
Anivia: Wall, solid CC, unignorable DPS, but even if killed they won't have time to kill the egg before they get murdered by Kog.
Cassiopeia: Alternate win condition, Ult is very strong against divers.
Karthus: Mostly same as anivia, Kog stands on him and what do they do?
Kayle: Ult
Morde: You have to engage into a protect comps to get the kog, they don't dive you. Morde then loses his terrible weakness in engaging and reaching targets. If you ult and pop their assasin, game over for that teamfight. Shield.
Morg: Black sheild, unignorable counterengage ult, strong peeling and picking.
Orianna: Safe and lots of shields.
Viktor: very strong counterengage, Kog stands in grav field, if enemy eats his whole ult then its retard damage.
Even veigar could work: Extremely powerful wall around Kog or containing enemies, can instapop any diving assassin.
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On March 26 2015 04:56 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:On March 26 2015 04:35 Kinie wrote:On March 26 2015 03:47 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 26 2015 03:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. Neo why do you hate fun? I just go out of my way to hate on things you like. That's probably it. Edit: Which CN teams are running Kog? Last I watched in EU LCS, shit was boring as hell to watch. Was like 20 min in before first blood. afaik KRs haven't gone back to Kog either but as a region, they're not as ADC focused I suppose (compared to CN). In LCK right now the GE Tigers are the only ones able to successfully run a 4 protect 1 comp built around Kog'Maw. If memory serves it's Lulu top, Janna sup, Nunu jungle, and a safe champion for mid (I want to say Ori but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong). Edit: And am I the only one who's getting a Vietnam-like feel from the new Teemo skin? Though that might be too old for most people (myself included) to get... Maybe it'd be better to compare it to the more recent Middle East conflicts? Mid can be anything tbh. Personally I like the hardcore comp with morg top + lulu mid. But, I also see the benefits of running an assassin mid like Ahri or Zed to force enemies to blow cooldowns before Kog pain train comes in. should have called it special forces teemo, so we can get a special forces skin team going around with gangplank and crew. There area lot of good mids to do protect comps, depending on that exactly you need: Anivia: Wall, solid CC, unignorable DPS, but even if killed they won't have time to kill the egg before they get murdered by Kog. Cassiopeia: Alternate win condition, Ult is very strong against divers. Karthus: Mostly same as anivia, Kog stands on him and what do they do? Kayle: Ult Morde: You have to engage into a protect comps to get the kog, they don't dive you. Morde then loses his terrible weakness in engaging and reaching targets. If you ult and pop their assasin, game over for that teamfight. Shield. Morg: Black sheild, unignorable counterengage ult, strong peeling and picking. Orianna: Safe and lots of shields. Viktor: very strong counterengage, Kog stands in grav field, if enemy eats his whole ult then its retard damage. Even veigar could work: Extremely powerful wall around Kog or containing enemies, can instapop any diving assassin.
i mean, ideally you just need someone in mid who can mitigate the threat of whatever is being played. Either by some teamfight mechanic utility, or shit stomping them in lane, or follow in the roam game. Etc etc.
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On March 26 2015 04:38 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Ryze is fine. A bit problematic in solo q cause he can just free farm and become a beast late game due to his scaling but competitive, he was/is at a good place. I never watched a game and thought he was OP. (e.g. last time felt this was probably good Zeds).
Kog is competitive but I wouldn't say top. Graves, Lucian I'd still put above Koggles.
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. I think Ryze haters just want to play Leblanc, Ahri, Zed, and Riven (etc) with impunity without having to be aggressive before getting their core items.
you are right concept of ranged tank, hyper-carry with faceroll gameplay mechanic isnt flawed at all, guess i imagined myself ryze 1v5 teams and winning games by himself (before he became perma banned ) and every single pro player bitching how stupid this champion is
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On March 26 2015 04:45 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 04:35 Kinie wrote:On March 26 2015 03:47 NeoIllusions wrote:On March 26 2015 03:40 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. Neo why do you hate fun? I just go out of my way to hate on things you like. That's probably it. Edit: Which CN teams are running Kog? Last I watched in EU LCS, shit was boring as hell to watch. Was like 20 min in before first blood. afaik KRs haven't gone back to Kog either but as a region, they're not as ADC focused I suppose (compared to CN). In LCK right now the GE Tigers are the only ones able to successfully run a 4 protect 1 comp built around Kog'Maw. If memory serves it's Lulu top, Janna sup, Nunu jungle, and a safe champion for mid (I want to say Ori but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong). Edit: And am I the only one who's getting a Vietnam-like feel from the new Teemo skin? Though that might be too old for most people (myself included) to get... Maybe it'd be better to compare it to the more recent Middle East conflicts? Mid can be anything tbh. Personally I like the hardcore comp with morg top + lulu mid. But, I also see the benefits of running an assassin mid like Ahri or Zed to force enemies to blow cooldowns before Kog pain train comes in. should have called it special forces teemo, so we can get a special forces skin team going around with gangplank and crew.
Cj ran a really good kog comp vs with lulu top and nami support. They had Leblanc mid to just destroy enemy adc when they tried to engage on kog
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On the bright side, that takes a few unsavory types out of the game for a few days.
Losing uni work is entirely his fault though. Cloud is there for a reason.
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Teemo looks creepier than i expected in that skin.
dayum he even throw knife l o l.
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Ryze slowly getting the nerfs reverted..... I shall bid my time..........mwahahhaha
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Not sure what's going to be more cancer in soloqueue toplane, the AP Shaco, Teemo (cuz new skin), or Ryze.
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There are going to be so many teemos.
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Just bust out the Pantheon or Irelia, tadum.
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On March 26 2015 05:08 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 04:38 cLutZ wrote:On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Ryze is fine. A bit problematic in solo q cause he can just free farm and become a beast late game due to his scaling but competitive, he was/is at a good place. I never watched a game and thought he was OP. (e.g. last time felt this was probably good Zeds).
Kog is competitive but I wouldn't say top. Graves, Lucian I'd still put above Koggles.
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. I think Ryze haters just want to play Leblanc, Ahri, Zed, and Riven (etc) with impunity without having to be aggressive before getting their core items. you are right concept of ranged tank, hyper-carry with faceroll gameplay mechanic isnt flawed at all, guess i imagined myself ryze 1v5 teams and winning games by himself (before he became perma banned ) and every single pro player bitching how stupid this champion is
Concept is fine, he is supposed to be a mid to late game terror for mobile assassins. And mid lane he really hasn't been too much of an issue. The problem is his top lane implementation, particularly his targeted harass. IMO the fix, which should be universal and should have happened years ago, is spells drawing minion aggro. Plus his powerspike is too hard to delay because bullies are a dying breed.
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Hahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahhahhahahahhahha.
Guess some students learned the hard way you back your thesis the fuck up on external disks and cloud. lol
On March 26 2015 05:08 kongoline wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2015 04:38 cLutZ wrote:On March 26 2015 03:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
Ryze is fine. A bit problematic in solo q cause he can just free farm and become a beast late game due to his scaling but competitive, he was/is at a good place. I never watched a game and thought he was OP. (e.g. last time felt this was probably good Zeds).
Kog is competitive but I wouldn't say top. Graves, Lucian I'd still put above Koggles.
That said, the 4 protect 1 comps that teams tend to comp for Kog is absolute yawnfest to watch. I think Ryze haters just want to play Leblanc, Ahri, Zed, and Riven (etc) with impunity without having to be aggressive before getting their core items. you are right concept of ranged tank, hyper-carry with faceroll gameplay mechanic isnt flawed at all, guess i imagined myself ryze 1v5 teams and winning games by himself (before he became perma banned ) and every single pro player bitching how stupid this champion is
You forgot he's a lane bully too. So when Ryze is viable he is basically a ranged hyper-carry lane bully tank. Totally perfect design. Srsly Rito just delete the champion already....
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Teemo skin day 1 buy and I am now a Teemo main for life holy shit
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GOOD MEN DIE. I CHOOSE TO LIVE.
- Teemo, 2015
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I like when Ryze is in. It makes me feel like Caitlyn is a good lategame ADC as one of thew few who can easily deal with Ryze.
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EPT
