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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 16 2015 21:29 GMT
#401
On March 17 2015 06:18 Purge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:02 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 17 2015 05:59 Fildun wrote:
I actually think that the jungle is in a pretty good place this patch. A lot of junglers feel viable right now, from Zac to Jarvan, from Skarner to Olaf.

Well except Evelynn and Elise.

Yeah. Sej might be a bit too strong, but we'll wait for competitive results to see. Hopefully she gets a few patches of actual play before we revert back to the s4, s3 riot approved lcs champs.


Except Diamond was playing her on 5.4 and winning in competitive play so im not sure what you mean by that last part.

So that's one Pro out of like 50 playing Vi, Rek'sai, Lee, and J4?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 16 2015 21:33 GMT
#402
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 21:38:05
March 16 2015 21:36 GMT
#403
On March 17 2015 06:18 Purge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:02 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 17 2015 05:59 Fildun wrote:
I actually think that the jungle is in a pretty good place this patch. A lot of junglers feel viable right now, from Zac to Jarvan, from Skarner to Olaf.

Well except Evelynn and Elise.

Yeah. Sej might be a bit too strong, but we'll wait for competitive results to see. Hopefully she gets a few patches of actual play before we revert back to the s4, s3 riot approved lcs champs.


Except Diamond was playing her on 5.4 and winning in competitive play so im not sure what you mean by that last part.

That's implying EU LCS performance holds any salt in competitive play. SK losing to YFW should have settled that.
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

Ez feels like the only ADC currently worth playing in solo queue right now (at least for me), everything is so fucking dangerous. Just land a 5 man ult with Ez, the pew pew away with mystic shots from 1k range.
liftlift > tsm
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 16 2015 21:40 GMT
#404
On March 17 2015 06:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:18 Purge wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:02 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 17 2015 05:59 Fildun wrote:
I actually think that the jungle is in a pretty good place this patch. A lot of junglers feel viable right now, from Zac to Jarvan, from Skarner to Olaf.

Well except Evelynn and Elise.

Yeah. Sej might be a bit too strong, but we'll wait for competitive results to see. Hopefully she gets a few patches of actual play before we revert back to the s4, s3 riot approved lcs champs.


Except Diamond was playing her on 5.4 and winning in competitive play so im not sure what you mean by that last part.

That's implying EU LCS performance holds any salt in competitive play. SK losing to YFW should have settled that.
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

Ez feels like the only ADC currently worth playing in solo queue right now (at least for me), everything is so fucking dangerous. Just land a 5 man ult with Ez, the pew pew away with mystic shots from 1k range.


Ez is also the most fun ADC to play while not sober, because it's hilarious when your team starts raging at you for missing like 1/3rd of your Qs and if things start going wrong you just E outta there.
:3
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 16 2015 21:58 GMT
#405
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.

- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 16 2015 22:09 GMT
#406
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 16 2015 22:10 GMT
#407
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.


Yeah well I'm not going to try playing Koggles or Vayne in this meta. I'm scared of ganks enough as is.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 16 2015 22:11 GMT
#408
Ryze buuuuuffs!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 22:33:24
March 16 2015 22:32 GMT
#409
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.

The more I play Cait, the more I hate her lategame. Her headshot steroid is just so underwhelming, I feel defensive item easily outscale her, and there's really not much you can really do past midgame.
On March 17 2015 07:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.


Yeah well I'm not going to try playing Koggles or Vayne in this meta. I'm scared of ganks enough as is.

Sivir is pretty bonkers right now, if you don't mind playing lategame on a knifes edge with her short range, her lategame damage is fucking immense.
liftlift > tsm
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 22:55:06
March 16 2015 22:36 GMT
#410
On March 17 2015 07:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.

The more I play Cait, the more I hate her lategame. Her headshot steroid is just so underwhelming, I feel defensive item easily outscale her, and there's really not much you can really do past midgame.
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 07:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.


Yeah well I'm not going to try playing Koggles or Vayne in this meta. I'm scared of ganks enough as is.

Sivir is pretty bonkers right now, if you don't mind playing lategame on a knifes edge with her short range, her lategame damage is fucking immense.


Caits lategame is pretty weak, but onl because everyone else can get a full six items too. If they don't however and you're smart and go IE, PD, LW, BT, Scimitar (then swap boots for zephyr) then your lategame should be better than theirs provided they don't (or they're too short range to not die with said build).

Edit: the margin on scimitar is about 400/320 (IE, BT, LW, PD + Scimitar, compared to def item) which is about 25% more DPS (and burst and ability damage)

The margin on scimitar and BT compared to BV and Botrk is 400/250 for almost 66% more auto damage (minus Botrk proc, Botrk dps increase from AS is about 18% so you're still way ahead with Bt/scim)

The main problem that ADs have right now is that they fail to transition into that lategame build without really really good reasons, since it's the highest dps and good def on basically every champion.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2015 22:48 GMT
#411
On March 17 2015 07:36 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 07:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.

The more I play Cait, the more I hate her lategame. Her headshot steroid is just so underwhelming, I feel defensive item easily outscale her, and there's really not much you can really do past midgame.
On March 17 2015 07:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.


Yeah well I'm not going to try playing Koggles or Vayne in this meta. I'm scared of ganks enough as is.

Sivir is pretty bonkers right now, if you don't mind playing lategame on a knifes edge with her short range, her lategame damage is fucking immense.


Caits lategame is pretty weak, but onl because everyone else can get a full six items too. If they don't however and you're smart and go IE, PD, LW, BT, Scimitar (then swap boots for zephyr) then your lategame should be better than theirs provided they don't (or they're too short range to not die with said build).

I'm just a bigger fan of GA, and PD replacement for boots. I'm too scrub with actives to bother using QSS.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 22:54:33
March 16 2015 22:50 GMT
#412
I'm really frustrated I can't seem to do damage to all the new tank junglers >>> I think I'll switch to Ez


I'm not seeing this solve your problem lol.

also I think saying Vayne is bad right now is not really true, sure in pro play she isn't that great but in solo q, especially now with less assasins and more tanks she's quite good imo, botrk trist is an option if you prefer to play safe though.
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 22:59:15
March 16 2015 22:58 GMT
#413
I actually think Kog is decent right now if J4 and Rek'sai are banned/picked by your team. (or they have already locked a tank jungle)

I must be crazy
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2015 22:58 GMT
#414
On March 17 2015 07:50 Slusher wrote:
I'm really frustrated I can't seem to do damage to all the new tank junglers >>> I think I'll switch to Ez


I'm not seeing this solve your problem lol.

also I think saying Vayne is bad right now is not really true, sure in pro play she isn't that great but in solo q, especially now with less assasins and more tanks she's quite good imo, botrk trist is an option if you prefer to play safe though.

It's not so much damage problem as it is staying alive to do damage. BotRK+Triforce+Muramana+LW does a surprising amount of damage to a lot of the current tanks, and it allows you stay alive to do so. Not to mention with Arcane Shift, it allows you easily position yourself at a flank through terrain so you can also have access to their backline.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 23:01:16
March 16 2015 22:59 GMT
#415
I don't see why the shift to tank jungles would make that more problematic than the j4/vi/rek'sai meta, if anything Ez was made less valuable by cinderhulk

thats also a 30+ min build you listed, If your telling me I get to triforce + Bork + one other item and the game is still winnable I'll take Koggles 10/10 ESPECIALLY vs a tank jungle
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 23:03:21
March 16 2015 23:02 GMT
#416
On March 17 2015 07:59 Slusher wrote:
I don't see why the shift to tank jungles would make that more problematic than the j4/vi/rek'sai meta

I never said it did, Ez is good pick against those 3 as well.
On March 17 2015 07:59 Slusher wrote:
I don't see why the shift to tank jungles would make that more problematic than the j4/vi/rek'sai meta, if anything Ez was made less valuable by cinderhulk

thats also a 30+ min build you listed, If your telling me I get to triforce + Bork + one other item and the game is still winnable I'll take Koggles 10/10 ESPECIALLY vs a tank jungle

oh god, not without a lulu or morg sololaner i wouldn't. Kogs is silly vulnerable.
liftlift > tsm
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-16 23:03:36
March 16 2015 23:02 GMT
#417
On March 17 2015 07:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2015 07:36 Goumindong wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.

The more I play Cait, the more I hate her lategame. Her headshot steroid is just so underwhelming, I feel defensive item easily outscale her, and there's really not much you can really do past midgame.
On March 17 2015 07:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.


Yeah well I'm not going to try playing Koggles or Vayne in this meta. I'm scared of ganks enough as is.

Sivir is pretty bonkers right now, if you don't mind playing lategame on a knifes edge with her short range, her lategame damage is fucking immense.


Caits lategame is pretty weak, but onl because everyone else can get a full six items too. If they don't however and you're smart and go IE, PD, LW, BT, Scimitar (then swap boots for zephyr) then your lategame should be better than theirs provided they don't (or they're too short range to not die with said build).

I'm just a bigger fan of GA, and PD replacement for boots. I'm too scrub with actives to bother using QSS.


GA is bad unless you realy need the passive to prevent a reset on the enemy team. 99% of the time you will just die last and respawn to die again. Otherwise even not using the active scimitar is the best item you can get. It has the most Damage and BVs passive is usually popped by poke before you eat their init anyway.

The BT/Scimitar finisher, especially since dragon and masteries my illy your AD, is just too powerful to pass up right now.

Well unless they have no magic damage (and no cc or you can't remember to use it) then replace scimitar with either PD or ghostblade, or Botrk. But usually you're going to want scimitar
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2015 23:06 GMT
#418
On March 17 2015 08:02 Goumindong wrote:
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On March 17 2015 07:48 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:36 Goumindong wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:32 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:15 Fildun wrote:
I really want Riot to wait a bit on this patch. Everybody is jungling champions that they have no idea how to play, so if we get those out in about a month the stats will be more representative I think.

Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.

The more I play Cait, the more I hate her lategame. Her headshot steroid is just so underwhelming, I feel defensive item easily outscale her, and there's really not much you can really do past midgame.
On March 17 2015 07:10 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 07:09 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:58 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:33 Gahlo wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:27 Doctorbeat wrote:
On March 17 2015 06:22 Gahlo wrote:
[quote]
Not to mention they should allow for the AD position to have a chance to possibly swing back into favoring some of the BotRK champions.


Now that all those tanky junglers are in play I feel kinda useless as an adc. One of my latest games had Voli, Heca and Kass. When I saw that I really wanted to slit my wrists.

What ADC have you been playing?


Lucian, Cait, Corki. I'm not even trying to play Jinx because with no escape you just get dickfucked.

Maybe I'll hop on the Ez train then. Even though I think he's boring af.


That explains it, since none of those are really tank busters outside of lategame cait.


Yeah well I'm not going to try playing Koggles or Vayne in this meta. I'm scared of ganks enough as is.

Sivir is pretty bonkers right now, if you don't mind playing lategame on a knifes edge with her short range, her lategame damage is fucking immense.


Caits lategame is pretty weak, but onl because everyone else can get a full six items too. If they don't however and you're smart and go IE, PD, LW, BT, Scimitar (then swap boots for zephyr) then your lategame should be better than theirs provided they don't (or they're too short range to not die with said build).

I'm just a bigger fan of GA, and PD replacement for boots. I'm too scrub with actives to bother using QSS.


GA is bad unless you realy need the passive to prevent a reset on the enemy team. 99% of the time you will just die last and respawn to die again. Otherwise even not using the active scimitar is the best item you can get. It has the most Damage and BVs passive is usually popped by poke before you eat their init anyway.

The BT/Scimitar finisher, especially since dragon and masteries my illy your AD, is just too powerful to pass up right now.

Well unless they have no magic damage (and no cc or you can't remember to use it) then replace scimitar with either PD or ghostblade, or Botrk. But usually you're going to want scimitar

Usually one of two things that tends to happen when I get GA. No one ever focuses me ever again, allows me to do free deepz, or they blow all their cooldowns, and wait around my dead body as my team kills them, acting like a psuedo zhonya's/tank. I know it's not ideal, but my ADC mechanics are seriously problematic, adding QSS is doing me no favors in games.
liftlift > tsm
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 16 2015 23:08 GMT
#419
If you're getting focused so hard it's your positioning. My position is that if my mechanics are bad I want to play high variance. Max that damage (and especially that first hit/crit damage). If I am going to die at least I am going to crit someone for 1500+ damage before I go down.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 16 2015 23:40 GMT
#420
To be clear im not advocating kog as a first pick, but you don't need full blown juggermaw to win a solo q game either.

Besides ill take solos/jungle with reliable stuns over solo q lulus who have self cast bound to R
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