EPTTop 10 Players to never win a Champions Season - Page 3
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Liquid`Nazgul
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FeltFace
Australia577 Posts
What the fuck is this? A fact? Samsung White has a winning record against SKT and performed significantly better over a longer period of time. A few good months doesn't make SKT the best ever. If Samsung actually paid their players what they were worth and they still existed, they would still be at the top of the world. At the very least use "arguably" Sincerely, An MVP Ozone - Samsung White / Samsung Blue fan | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:57 FeltFace wrote: "considering the fact that his team was the second best in history" What the fuck is this? A fact? Samsung White has a winning record against SKT and performed significantly better over a longer period of time. A few good months doesn't make SKT the best ever. If Samsung actually paid their players what they were worth and they still existed, they would still be at the top of the world. At the very least use "arguably" Sincerely, An MVP Ozone - Samsung White / Samsung Blue fan Oh, c'mon. SKT T1 #2 was better team in 2 seasons, DanDy/Mata/Imp + 2 were better team in 2 seasons and in 2013 Spring they went 3-3. But having perfect season + being only team to back-to-back win Champions and winning Worlds inbetween > being consistent performers for 2 years and Worlds winners. "Few good months", lol. | ||
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thejuju
United States413 Posts
white loses because of blue. If blue didnt exist than white #1 | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
samsung had two world class teams. their recruiting 'prestige' wasn't that high compared to cj and skt, but they were risk takers with young and brash players with bad reputations, and had the best talent development staff to mold the players and instill habits. of course this does not seem to remain their strength after all of their coaches got poached | ||
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Arpejjio
United States130 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Also respect to some stellar graphics here. Of course. The graphics artists always do an incredible job. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Arpejjio
United States130 Posts
On March 07 2015 10:22 AlterKot wrote: So what's the difference between blue writers and black writers? I'm not an official writer yet, just on trial at the moment. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On March 07 2015 09:13 AlterKot wrote: Samsung lost game to TSM and SHRC :> Not to mention Blue kryptonite. Altough imo much easier to snowball and have the better team always win in S3. Hard to compare I'd argue. do you honestly count that TSM loss against them???? | ||
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Arpejjio
United States130 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:57 FeltFace wrote: "considering the fact that his team was the second best in history" What the fuck is this? A fact? Samsung White has a winning record against SKT and performed significantly better over a longer period of time. A few good months doesn't make SKT the best ever. If Samsung actually paid their players what they were worth and they still existed, they would still be at the top of the world. At the very least use "arguably" Sincerely, An MVP Ozone - Samsung White / Samsung Blue fan It's obvious I'm not talking about SKT being the best. Clearly, the best team of all time is Taipei Assassins. ;S | ||
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OhTwoMise
United States164 Posts
On March 07 2015 05:14 TheYango wrote: I think the team as a whole struggled collectively. I also think the decision to swap Kakao down to KTA and Insec in was incredibly poor. On the whole, I think Insec is actually way too high on this list. Even the article admits that he never really performed well in Korea and never made it past Ro8, so why is he #2 on the list for winning some foreign tournaments? I'm not even sure I'd put Insec on the list at all. He's obviously incredible mechanically, but he's always been a loose cannon, and it keeps him from making deep playoff runs. He comes up big much more often than he throws, but winning a championship is about consistency, not peaks. The series of decisions that led to KTB imploding seems like possibly the worst management in competitive LoL history to me, although I'm sure the management had access to a lot of information that I don't. Even if the long-term goal was to set Kakao up for success on KTA, seems like there should have been a way to do it without destroying the flagship team. Insec also just seemed like a really bizarre fit for KTB stylistically. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
And absolutely cannot agree with Pawn being that low on that list. The whole reason why Ryu couldn't win a championship was because he consistently got outclassed by his opponent, namely Faker. This wasn't the case for Pawn and Pawn at his peaks was definitely the better and more talented player. | ||
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On March 07 2015 04:24 Fusilero wrote: I personally think score should be on the list and if it wasn't for the whole GE tigers best team by far kuro would but I'm biased as fuck towards kuro ~_~ I think kuro and score are more underrated than looper was on the whole. Mostly because even though kuro's 18-2 with viktor peeps still seem to blank out on him even though he's 1v5d the IM organization to relevance in LoL multiple times Kuro has only been a top player for like.... this split. He was below average every season before (and no, please don't use recent results to justify that he has always been good) when you consider the fact that the other mid laners were Dade, Pawn, Faker, Ggoong, and rising talent like Rookie and Coco who showed up WAY more than Kuro. Also lol.. when you have to put Nofe and Expession on this list that tells you the game isn't old enough for a list like this. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35131 Posts
On March 07 2015 11:17 Slusher wrote: do you honestly count that TSM loss against them???? People count TSM's loss against GamingGear.eu at S3 worlds, despite them running a quadruple lane swap. Community doesn't seem to care if you're trolling, if you lose you lose. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On March 07 2015 22:45 loSleb wrote: Where is CitizenWayne? Citizenwayne the god if I wrote the list he'd be here /o/ | ||
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thejuju
United States413 Posts
On March 07 2015 23:05 Itsmedudeman wrote: Kuro has only been a top player for like.... this split. He was below average every season before (and no, please don't use recent results to justify that he has always been good) when you consider the fact that the other mid laners were Dade, Pawn, Faker, Ggoong, and rising talent like Rookie and Coco who showed up WAY more than Kuro. Also lol.. when you have to put Nofe and Expession on this list that tells you the game isn't old enough for a list like this. When seven different teams win eight different tournaments with only six players ever getting two championships you kind of run out of players to put in a top 10 list. You can't just say they don't deserve to be on the list without putting someone else in. Besides NoFe super underrated zzz | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
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