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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 28 2015 01:21 GMT
#41
I mean if you can't "somehow get E on to a target" you won't be doing any damage so your wording was confusing ofc it's a nerf I dunno why people keep acting like we didn't know that a month ago when riot said the rework was a nerf
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 28 2015 01:23 GMT
#42
On January 28 2015 10:21 Slusher wrote:
I mean if you can't "somehow get E on to a target" you won't be doing any damage so your wording was confusing ofc it's a nerf I dunno why people keep acting like we didn't know that a month ago when riot said the rework was a nerf


Where did they say it was a nerf? Nobody even plays Tristana anymore, so why would they want to nerf her?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 01:27:50
January 28 2015 01:26 GMT
#43
On January 28 2015 10:23 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 10:21 Slusher wrote:
I mean if you can't "somehow get E on to a target" you won't be doing any damage so your wording was confusing ofc it's a nerf I dunno why people keep acting like we didn't know that a month ago when riot said the rework was a nerf


Where did they say it was a nerf? Nobody even plays Tristana anymore, so why would they want to nerf her?

in the wise words of kupo, "not riot approved".

I think mostly they disliked how boring her kit was, though the bigger problem was sort of how unresponsive she felt. Like kiting shots with her just didn't feel quite the same as with other ADC's, and her escape was buggy as fuck.

Also, I'm a huge fan of having defensive buff skills for champions that don't necessarily build tanky, but giving them such an ability opens up the increased scaling efficiency of defensive items. IE, Annie's E, and making HP items give her increased scaling benefit on her defense.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 28 2015 01:28 GMT
#44
I quoted the original riot news post on the last page but I'll give you a source link this time instead

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/champion-update/champion-update-tristana
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 28 2015 01:32 GMT
#45
the annie change isn't really a nerf or a buff, it's more flavor for support annie and a interesting sorta buff for mid annie, Tibbers already has pretty good armor #s so the addition of E gives him some decent zoning power if you have enough ap to make the aura hurt, I guess this makes support annie better at tanking dragon but thats about all I can think of, probably a net nerf but just as small as it is a buff for mid.

I kinda like it personally just because I've always wanted to cast E on teammates (ofc that would be too op)
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
January 28 2015 01:33 GMT
#46
anyone know how long the China themed skins are going to be available? particularly the one for annie
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 28 2015 01:42 GMT
#47
tristana changes are stupid, who the hell jumps into the enemies with their adc, which is what these changes are all about. Other than that they just nerfed her range, but she wasnt even played before, so....nice rework Riot.

Also lol, someone at Riot hates the fish, Q dmg halved.

azir unchanged, no commet.

Reksai small nerf and nerf to first clear hitpoints because of the unborrow immunity.



And jungle item change is of course really annoying if you enjoy non-fotm junglers.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 02:10:09
January 28 2015 02:09 GMT
#48
Yea...Trist and Fizz got fucking wrecked. They weren't even super high tier picks either. Imo Fizz basically got the Eve treatment with gigantic damage nerfs across the board (halved Q damage wtf) and Trist almost got Eve'd too. Less range, less damage, less health, less attack speed, zzz zzz

Watch those two champs go 0 pick rate in competitive and bottom 5 winrate in soloq
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
January 28 2015 02:10 GMT
#49
On January 28 2015 10:33 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
anyone know how long the China themed skins are going to be available? particularly the one for annie

Lunar Revel is the Runeterra equivalent of Chinese New Year, which falls on February 19th this year. Expect them sometime around then.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 28 2015 02:23 GMT
#50
On January 28 2015 08:20 Gahlo wrote:
Foist.

I'm interested to see how the Rek'Sai changes work out. Yes it's a damage nerf, but it's never been about damage with her. Belt change is massive for jungling. Hoping to see a revival of Lich Bane Ahri.

User was warned for this post

can a mod explain this warning? i am curious as to what rules were broken
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 28 2015 02:24 GMT
#51
First post claiming falls under no memes, because the new board does not show edit time stamps(not a fan of this btw) it was probly updated later to include the content.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 28 2015 02:25 GMT
#52
On January 28 2015 11:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 08:20 Gahlo wrote:
Foist.

I'm interested to see how the Rek'Sai changes work out. Yes it's a damage nerf, but it's never been about damage with her. Belt change is massive for jungling. Hoping to see a revival of Lich Bane Ahri.

User was warned for this post

can a mod explain this warning? i am curious as to what rules were broken


before he edited it, the post just said "Foist."

"first" posts are a no-no (even though content was added afterwards)
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 28 2015 02:28 GMT
#53
On January 28 2015 11:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 11:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On January 28 2015 08:20 Gahlo wrote:
Foist.

I'm interested to see how the Rek'Sai changes work out. Yes it's a damage nerf, but it's never been about damage with her. Belt change is massive for jungling. Hoping to see a revival of Lich Bane Ahri.

User was warned for this post

can a mod explain this warning? i am curious as to what rules were broken


before he edited it, the post just said "Foist."

"first" posts are a no-no (even though content was added afterwards)

thank you!
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 28 2015 02:28 GMT
#54
On January 28 2015 11:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 08:20 Gahlo wrote:
Foist.

I'm interested to see how the Rek'Sai changes work out. Yes it's a damage nerf, but it's never been about damage with her. Belt change is massive for jungling. Hoping to see a revival of Lich Bane Ahri.

User was warned for this post

can a mod explain this warning? i am curious as to what rules were broken


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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
January 28 2015 02:29 GMT
#55
On January 28 2015 10:32 Slusher wrote:
the annie change isn't really a nerf or a buff, it's more flavor for support annie and a interesting sorta buff for mid annie, Tibbers already has pretty good armor #s so the addition of E gives him some decent zoning power if you have enough ap to make the aura hurt, I guess this makes support annie better at tanking dragon but thats about all I can think of, probably a net nerf but just as small as it is a buff for mid.

I kinda like it personally just because I've always wanted to cast E on teammates (ofc that would be too op)


Annie change cannot be considered a buff for mid annie especially with dfg gone. It's a change that's pretty decent, but doesn't change the fact that you will not be getting more than 1 point in E for the large majority of the game.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 02:39:50
January 28 2015 02:36 GMT
#56
dfg loss isn't a cost/benefit of the E change

level order only exasterbates my analysis that mid change=somewhat better, support change= somewhat worse although to be honest I find that point irrelevant
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Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
January 28 2015 02:37 GMT
#57
So they buffed the total AP on Gunblade to 80 because "dfg doesn't exist anymore." Which just so happened to occur at the same time Akali got nerfed. Why not just say, "We're nerfing Akali a lot but compensating by buffing Gunblade because it's the Akali only item."

I'd be happy if they buffed and increased the price of Ghosties to 120AP so we would have a 120AP item with 10%CDR.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
January 28 2015 02:38 GMT
#58
On January 28 2015 11:36 Slusher wrote:
dfg loss isn't a cost/benefit of the E change


I guess I phrased it awkwardly. DFG removed = nerf for mid annie
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-28 02:41:09
January 28 2015 02:40 GMT
#59
On January 28 2015 10:21 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 08:34 Kinie wrote:
So... This patch feels like a bunch of nerfs overall. Fizz got chunked, Annie change is... Meh I think. Ahri seems weaker but mobility is always a tricky thing, maybe she can use the move speed to get to other lanes faster for ganks?

Lack of a 120ap item to replace DFG in this patch means we might see the meta shift to Jayce being fotm mid again. Trist loses 24 range at lvl 18, attacks slower and isn't as tanky, and instead gains early game harassment on her E. This probably knocks her off the best hypercarry throne.

The ruby crystal change I like. Reksai nerf is small but it wasn't ever about the damage she did in the jungle, it was how strong her E is and the damage her triple Q attack let's her do. Still dislike the jingle change, now the jungler will have to back a second time after clearing the other buff camp and a second camp (usually Red and Krugs or Blue and Gromp), which means a slower climb to 6 and less likely to see ganks in the 3-5 range. Akali change is fine, her burst combo was so oppressive at the 6-11 range.

That's all I got so far.


Question: Is there a hypercarry anymore?


Kog'Maw... That's probably it, if Trist does fall off her pedistal and into the waffling tier where Vayne, Jinx, and Varus reside of late game carries. He gets a big power spike with Triforce, but he doesn't turn into a hypercarry until he gets more levels in him and another big AD item (usually IE, but BT can also work).
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 28 2015 02:40 GMT
#60
my comment was only directed towards the sentiment that annie E was nerfed.

A review of Annie's kit before and after the patch if you will
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