On February 10 2015 15:22 739 wrote:
Seems like my post is 1000th !!!! CELEBRATION TIME. Also I might buy Jaximus, always liked that skin and it's on sale this week iirc.

But he is so small ingame compared to nemesis jax. The splash art looks nice tho.

eagle

United States693 Posts

February 10 2015 08:54 GMT

#1003

Vi definitely seems op in season 5 jungling if you can't pick jarvan 4 or rekt sai anyone else think so too?

Kotfluegel

Germany49 Posts

February 10 2015 09:28 GMT

#1004

What about Lee and Fiddle? Although these are way harder to play than Vi.

Prog

United Kingdom1470 Posts

February 10 2015 09:52 GMT

#1005

I think Lee and Fiddle are both stronger than Vi. Also Olaf seems strong as far as I can tell from playing with scip.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

February 10 2015 10:01 GMT

#1006

On February 10 2015 18:52 Prog wrote:
I think Lee and Fiddle are both stronger than Vi. Also Olaf seems strong as far as I can tell from playing with scip.

Fiddle is bonkers good right now imo. The new jungle really suits him.

Sunaj

Canada2041 Posts

February 10 2015 11:18 GMT

#1007

Vi's only thing is she really REALLY wants someone else to go in with her, well most divers do, but if Vi is the only one going in, she's prob having a bad time.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

February 10 2015 12:20 GMT

#1008

What runes/masteries and skill order for Veigar support? I really want to try him out in next few days and I'm wondering if I should go for max R>E>Q>W ? Best build? Best starting items? Core items for early/mid game?

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19816394#profile

I guess this guy is pretty legit?

Prog

United Kingdom1470 Posts

February 10 2015 12:33 GMT

#1009

I'm certainly no expert on Veigar support, but I played him a couple of games.

I go Q lvl 1, E lvl 2, W lvl 3, then R>E>Q>W.

Starting spellthiefs, 3 health pots, 1 mana pot. Rushing sightstone and mobi or sorc boots (mobi are generally better i think), then depending on what is needed. Usually Mikaels is the first big item. If I want to do a bit more damage I'll get Void Staff.

I'm not totally sure about runes. Depending on lane I run one of these two, with the first one against more magic dmg heavy lanes:

1) armor quints, hp yellows, hyprid pen reds, 4 manareg blues and rest mr blues (One of the most standard support pages)
2) 2 armor quints 1 ap quint, hp yellows, hyprid pen reds, ap blues (One of the standard Janna pages)

Masteries: 0/16/14 or 0/9/21. You could also go into the offensive tree for expose weakness, but I generally like more defensive masteries for stronger early game trading.

Edit: I checked the guy you linked and it seems legit. He goes movement quints, mobi boots and talisman and wins by catching people out with his insane movement speed and stun. Most people run movement speed quints on Veigar mid and it is pretty good, so I can definitely see this working for support as well.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

February 10 2015 12:35 GMT

#1010

Don't you want Morellos as first completed after right after Sighstone?
Also hybrid pen reds? For quints, you don't want MS? Cause veigar is pretty slow dude.

Prog

United Kingdom1470 Posts

February 10 2015 12:41 GMT

#1011

I like hyprid pens for the little bit of extra damage early and I do not care about the little bit less damage late. He builds morello's quickly to get cd for his running around catching people with stun style. I went Mikaels, but I'd take this guy's build over mine any day with regard to expertise of Veigar support.

Also:

Edit: I checked the guy you linked and it seems legit. He goes movement quints, mobi boots and talisman and wins by catching people out with his insane movement speed and stun. Most people run movement speed quints on Veigar mid and it is pretty good, so I can definitely see this working for support as well.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

February 10 2015 12:45 GMT

#1012

Okay dokay, sounds good to me. Gonna test it in the evening, got promos, so Veigar support seems appriopriate for that :D

Anakko

France1934 Posts

February 10 2015 12:56 GMT

#1013

Interestingly, veigar support is seeing success in korea as well. There is this dude, rank 5 with quite a few veigar supp games. He also runs a totally different set of runes/masteries and goes for 20% cdr at lvl 1. Seems to be working for him, makes me want to try it but I don't have any cdr runes

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

February 10 2015 13:13 GMT

#1014

On February 10 2015 18:52 Prog wrote:
I think Lee and Fiddle are both stronger than Vi. Also Olaf seems strong as far as I can tell from playing with scip.

LOL I'm in the opinion changing business, one at a time
I actually don't find Vi to be strong in general at all. I think she can work in a really hard engage comp if there aren't any champions on the enemy team that counter her, but she's not someone I'd ever pick early unless weird bans.