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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 10 2015 15:58 GMT
#1021
IIRC resets only occur when the creep moves outside of its leash range.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 10 2015 17:26 GMT
#1022
On February 11 2015 00:37 AlterKot wrote:
rip 10 soft leash resets

+rip upfront Skirmishers and 15 Devourer damage.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
February 10 2015 19:17 GMT
#1023
can somebody explain how suddenly fizz became top tier or even OP as AD (according to nb3) when basically his every spell got gutted last patch
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 19:21:32
February 10 2015 19:20 GMT
#1024
Because W is hilarious, Q always scaled with ad and you can't use shark as peeling/reset tool now.
Ah, and passive is cute as well, plus you still have troll pole.

I will let Slusher tell story though, those dirty Fizz mains know better.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 19:26:56
February 10 2015 19:26 GMT
#1025
doesnt change the fact his W and Q are way worse than before and nobody played AD fizz earlier or considered him good, also how to display buff timers on minimap like Flame has on his stream Oo
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
February 10 2015 19:26 GMT
#1026
he was being played and super op for ages now wtf

aka Teutonica
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 10 2015 19:27 GMT
#1027
On February 11 2015 04:26 Slayer91 wrote:
he was being played and super op for ages now wtf


I think you're missing that they're talking about AD fizz.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
February 10 2015 19:30 GMT
#1028
oh
its because its fizz lol that mobility
aka Teutonica
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 19:59:45
February 10 2015 19:45 GMT
#1029
On February 11 2015 04:26 kongoline wrote:
doesnt change the fact his W and Q are way worse than before and nobody played AD fizz earlier or considered him good, also how to display buff timers on minimap like Flame has on his stream Oo

With BotRK and Tri, W'd Q is doing 120 +.3AP +1AD +2baseAD +8% missing/current +60dot.

People switched because 5.2 removed DFG, making him ult reliant for damage amp and wrecked base damages and hit AP ratios.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 10 2015 19:50 GMT
#1030
AD fizz was always strong, AP was just much stronger
one build is good, the other is hella OP, everyone is gonna do the OP one lol

the nerfs affect AD fizz a lot less than AP fizz so he's getting some play time now
A backwards poet writes inverse.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
February 10 2015 20:12 GMT
#1031
On February 11 2015 04:17 kongoline wrote:
can somebody explain how suddenly fizz became top tier or even OP as AD (according to nb3) when basically his every spell got gutted last patch


it's good, but far from being op or top tier. Most tier 1 top champs have an easy time vs him, especially pre 6.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 20:40:11
February 10 2015 20:38 GMT
#1032
On February 11 2015 04:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
AD fizz was always strong, AP was just much stronger
one build is good, the other is hella OP, everyone is gonna do the OP one lol

the nerfs affect AD fizz a lot less than AP fizz so he's getting some play time now


basically this, also the damage amp on his ult works on physical damage, so ad fizz is actually buffed compared to pre nerf

it's a bit silly to call him op though, the ap build before this patch was without a doubt stronger than this, but this isn't bad.
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 21:48:16
February 10 2015 21:43 GMT
#1033
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-53-notes
New patch notes and guess what, your favorite champion was olaf'd!

Except varus, he got an ult width increase.

I'll save you guys the trouble, ahri, kassadin and azir are now literally unplayable RIP.
Glorious SEA doto
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
February 10 2015 21:47 GMT
#1034
I don't understand the greater stealth totem buff, it was already very strong.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 10 2015 21:48 GMT
#1035
TL;DR: Sona isn't buffed, they reverted recent changes by putting in the skin files and they'll resolve that.

Yup, I thought when I read these that the numbers seemed awfully close to pre-nerfs, and Riot's almost never straight-up reverted something.
Well that explains it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 21:57:02
February 10 2015 21:54 GMT
#1036
Nice nerfs to ahri, thannk god they didnt go through with the 100mana on ranked Q change.

that varus buff to lcs ad carries :D if he ever sees play again.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 10 2015 22:15 GMT
#1037
Gonna wait for the new thread to give my opinion.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
February 10 2015 22:19 GMT
#1038
My only problem with ad fizz is irelia is better.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-10 22:29:58
February 10 2015 22:25 GMT
#1039
:0 dat Kennen ult nerf. The W is a nice QoL change, it was really hard to predict whether W would apply a mark or not to targets before. I expect to see more of the press R pokemon hamster.

It seems you can't trust Riot's tooltip on stuff. I thought Kennen's ult and Nidalee's cougar resets were working as intended.

SLOW DOWN KENNEN Fixed a bug where Slicing Maelstrom could hit the same target every 0.25 seconds, when it's supposed to only be once every 0.5 seconds

Due to a bug since his release (oops), Mega Gnar was lasting a good bit longer than intended - discovering this, we thought it would be a good time to tighten the windows Gnar has to go crazy so we can really accentuate his highs and lows.

Azir:
TOWER BOMB DAMAGE The tooltip values were incorrectly saying +0.6 ability power (it's actually 0.7). 90 + (15 x level) (0.7 ability power) ⇒ 50 + (10 x level) (0.4 ability power)

WHOOPS Fixed a bug where Nidalee's cooldowns were not properly set when switching from Human to Cougar form
Passive - Prowl
UNDOCUMENTED CHANGE Prowl's tooltip now properly indicates that Hunted monsters are rooted for 2 seconds


Spectre's cowl isn't as strong as it was in S4 with like the 30 hp regen when hit, but the nerfs to Elise, Nunu, and AP Yi have made that mostly unnecessary (at my level). The rebuff to spectres is interesting. It'll certainly help against the odd Malphites and Shens.


I hope there's a way to indicate the blue trinket ward is untargetable. I don't want to be spam clicking tp to get into a fight only to realize 4 seconds later it's untargetable.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
February 10 2015 22:35 GMT
#1040
On February 11 2015 06:48 Alaric wrote:
TL;DR: Sona isn't buffed, they reverted recent changes by putting in the skin files and they'll resolve that.

Yup, I thought when I read these that the numbers seemed awfully close to pre-nerfs, and Riot's almost never straight-up reverted something.
Well that explains it.


it was a nerf anyway wasnt it wtf
20 more hp and then 7less per rank
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