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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 15 2014 12:45 GMT
#341
On December 15 2014 16:16 739 wrote:
Why the hell Bjergsen keeps buying 2x Morello on AP mids? Is this a thing now?

In a world where mana regen changes but the old calculations on their head and Mana Font gets trashed, we come to a scary meta known as "Too Many Books"




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Too Many Books! Too Many Books. Too Many Books? Too Many Booooooks.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 15 2014 12:46 GMT
#342
so is riot's stance to remove all level 3 dragons or is my malzahar safe?
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 15 2014 12:53 GMT
#343
On December 15 2014 21:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
so is riot's stance to remove all level 3 dragons or is my malzahar safe?

Until it becomes a thing, yes.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 12:59:47
December 15 2014 12:58 GMT
#344
Best thing I've read in surrenderat20 lately is discussion about Lee Sin by a Riot guy :

He continued, clarifying:

"Lee Sin has been nerfed many times in the past and if he continues to dominate he will be again. Sorry if that wasn't clear above."


Also Poppy rework :

He continued, noting that Poppy should be the next larger scale gameplay rework:

"Last I heard we hadn't committed to a timeframe on Urgot (he's another high value, but really large, job). Unless something goes wrong Poppy's going to be the next really large gameplay rework. You'll almost certainly see small and medium sized gameplay updates before her though."
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 15 2014 13:00 GMT
#345
I don't like 2x Morello build. It is gold efficient, but you sacrifice survivability.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 15 2014 13:05 GMT
#346
On December 15 2014 22:00 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't like 2x Morello build. It is gold efficient, but you sacrifice survivability.

Doesn't matter when you're killing the shit out of the other guy.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 13:10:06
December 15 2014 13:07 GMT
#347
Survivability the most important part of being a long range mage.

Also anyone with a nation tag is considered garbage doesn't matter what it is.Not just pl/cz exclusive :D.
Ichtyornis
Profile Joined May 2014
9 Posts
December 15 2014 13:08 GMT
#348
Why do they keep doing complete reworks instead of just buffing numbers ? Esp. for Urgot.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 15 2014 13:09 GMT
#349
On December 15 2014 21:53 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 21:46 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
so is riot's stance to remove all level 3 dragons or is my malzahar safe?

Until it becomes a thing, yes.


goddamn rito can't we just have fun for once
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 15 2014 13:26 GMT
#350
Here's the thing: CDR doesn't let you instantly blow up someone.


Don't get me wrong, I have been a big advocate of high CDR builds since Season 2. I really enjoy such a build. But unlike AP, high CDR requires you to survive long enough to get at least two cycles of spells off. Burgerking in that game was against Irelia and WK - when teamfight started he was basically running away for his dear life because the double Morello's offered him little in defense.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 13:29:51
December 15 2014 13:27 GMT
#351
On December 15 2014 22:07 nafta wrote:
Survivability the most important part of being a long range mage.

Also anyone with a nation tag is considered garbage doesn't matter what it is.Not just pl/cz exclusive :D.


wat. if that was true you would build randuins....Damage is definitely the most important thing on a mage, especially if you can blow your whole load in 3 seconds and after that it matters even less if you die.

CDR can actually work as a defensive stat though, most mages have an escape or a CC skill that they are very vulnerable when its on CD. More CDR means more uptime and safer play.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 15 2014 13:30 GMT
#352
On December 15 2014 22:27 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:07 nafta wrote:
Survivability the most important part of being a long range mage.

Also anyone with a nation tag is considered garbage doesn't matter what it is.Not just pl/cz exclusive :D.


wat. if that was true you would build randuins....Damage is definitely the most important thing on a mage, especially if you can blow your whole load in 3 seconds and after that it matters even less if you die.


I would build RanduinRs but the randuin's' but the slow aura range is a bit too short for most ranged mid laners. Also, most mid laners already offer a good slow. Also the scaling on Randuin's is a bit less than ideal when you are focused on offense.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 13:33:30
December 15 2014 13:31 GMT
#353
On December 15 2014 22:00 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't like 2x Morello build. It is gold efficient, but you sacrifice survivability.


No-one builds survivability on the champs they go 2x Morello
It's usually 2xMorello vs earlier void/dcap

Biggest strength of the build is the build path means you get CDR earlier rather than mregen/pure AP
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 15 2014 13:36 GMT
#354
On December 15 2014 22:31 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:00 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't like 2x Morello build. It is gold efficient, but you sacrifice survivability.


No-one builds survivability on the champs they go 2x Morello
It's usually 2xMorello vs earlier void/dcap


I don't know. AP champions have TONS of options for a defensive build.

Zhonya
Abyssal
Frozen Fist
Banner of Command
Rylai
Rod of Ages
Grail

Basically around half of the +AP items also offer some resist or health.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 13:39:54
December 15 2014 13:39 GMT
#355
On December 15 2014 22:26 Sufficiency wrote:
Here's the thing: CDR doesn't let you instantly blow up someone.


Don't get me wrong, I have been a big advocate of high CDR builds since Season 2. I really enjoy such a build. But unlike AP, high CDR requires you to survive long enough to get at least two cycles of spells off. Burgerking in that game was against Irelia and WK - when teamfight started he was basically running away for his dear life because the double Morello's offered him little in defense.

Bigger reason for double morelo is that one just lacks the mana regen for a lot of champions and athene is just meh atm.

Said champions also suffer damage wise very hard for going tanky it's not a coincidence everyone focuses on doing damage and not living while doing nothing...

Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 13:59:19
December 15 2014 13:56 GMT
#356
On December 15 2014 22:36 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:31 Inflicted wrote:
On December 15 2014 22:00 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't like 2x Morello build. It is gold efficient, but you sacrifice survivability.


No-one builds survivability on the champs they go 2x Morello
It's usually 2xMorello vs earlier void/dcap


I don't know. AP champions have TONS of options for a defensive build.

Zhonya
Abyssal
Frozen Fist
Banner of Command
Rylai
Rod of Ages
Grail

Basically around half of the +AP items also offer some resist or health.


Are you talking about 6 items?
The point of 2x Morello is the 40% CDR spike compared to the normal path of Nomicon -> Void/dcap
Nomicon + CDR boots also works, but the 2nd Morello allows for more cost efficient AP at the cost of the wasted slot (and delayed third item)
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
December 15 2014 14:16 GMT
#357
On December 15 2014 22:36 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2014 22:31 Inflicted wrote:
On December 15 2014 22:00 Sufficiency wrote:
I don't like 2x Morello build. It is gold efficient, but you sacrifice survivability.


No-one builds survivability on the champs they go 2x Morello
It's usually 2xMorello vs earlier void/dcap


I don't know. AP champions have TONS of options for a defensive build.

Zhonya
Abyssal
Frozen Fist
Banner of Command
Rylai
Rod of Ages
Grail

Basically around half of the +AP items also offer some resist or health.


What AP mid are you recommending go banner of command for a defensive item? It seems woefully out of place on the list.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 15 2014 14:40 GMT
#358
It is theoretically gold efficient. Just like Morello's.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 15 2014 14:43 GMT
#359
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 15 2014 14:45 GMT
#360
On December 15 2014 23:43 krndandaman wrote:
morello's is just batshit cost efficient. don't quote me on this, but isn't it the most cost efficent completed item in the game atm?
according to wiki Banner is 103 to 193% gold efficient depending on the number of allies.

Morello's is 130ish % efficient.
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