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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On December 15 2014 23:45 Sufficiency wrote: according to wiki Banner is 103 to 193% gold efficient depending on the number of allies. Morello's is 130ish % efficient. Is that the metric that best describes how to itemize on champions? | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 15 2014 23:48 Zdrastochye wrote: Is that the metric that best describes how to itemize on champions? No it is not. I am just saying blindly judging items because they are "gold efficient" may be misleading | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 15 2014 22:08 Ichtyornis wrote: Why do they keep doing complete reworks instead of just buffing numbers ? Esp. for Urgot. Because they have a vision of balance for the game. And certain types of champions cannot be shoehorned into that, so they either are permanently unbalanced, or you rework them. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:14 Sufficiency wrote: Either is Morello's. But people kept mentioning it. Except morello gives 3 stats that every ap with mana wants while banner gives stats that you don't need so it doesn't matter if it is gold efficient... | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:30 krndandaman wrote: morellos is the most practically cost efficient item in the game while giving the only stats ap mids care about. dunno why a discussion is even needed on this I think its hard for people to accept that Athenes is a shit item after rushing it on nearly every Mage for 2 years. Combine with the fact that the only other item that used to get stacked was like old bloodthirstier before S3 changes. Morellos will get nerfed for sure though, riot doesn't like item stacking. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:53 overt wrote: I think its hard for people to accept that Athenes is a shit item after rushing it on nearly every Mage for 2 years. Combine with the fact that the only other item that used to get stacked was like old bloodthirstier before S3 changes. Morellos will get nerfed for sure though, riot doesn't like item stacking. I miss the season 2 worlds Athene's. 90 AP, what were they thinking | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:27 Zdrastochye wrote: Suff you still listed banner as an option for a defensive build on an AP carry, I'd like to know who you recommend it on. I don't recommend it. I listed it because it is gold efficient. Like Morello's. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 16 2014 00:30 krndandaman wrote: morellos is the most practically cost efficient item in the game while giving the only stats ap mids care about. dunno why a discussion is even needed on this Yeah it is a good item. I just have issues getting two of them while delaying a more defensive item. | ||
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kongoline
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
i have 0 issues with niche items existing, as long as they don't get reworked frequently enough that no one learns when their niche exists. and as long as we increase the item pool overall so players have real choices. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 16 2014 01:33 PrinceXizor wrote: I dunno chalice still has uses, its niche, but it's still useful on kassadin or AP kog, And perhaps in the future we'll have more Mana surge style champions where they burn through mana quickly, and like to have large mana pools to compensate. There are plenty of champions that burn through mana quickly. The problem is that those champions usually want larger mana pool from Tear or RoA instead of higher mana regen. Furthermore, while Athen can regenerate mana, it requires kills/assists which is not failsafe. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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kongoline
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