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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 12 2015 00:20 GMT
#2721
On January 12 2015 09:01 Itchy7x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 08:54 Goumindong wrote:
On January 12 2015 08:51 Sufficiency wrote:
Do you guys actually use Elophant often?

I don't, but i don't have any other source of data for support matchups. You've got a big set, want to tell us how well these thing shake out?

edit: Because they forced the trade. Why else are you trading at level 1 against an enemy that beats you in trades? When do you trade at level 1? A: When you win the trades! Like how hard is this to understand?

So you're saying its impossible to avoid bad trades? Guess there is no point arguing if all you're saying is that its impossible to ever create a situation in which you win by having good lane control and playing with the creep wave.


So what you're saying is that its impossible to force good trades? Guess there is no point in arguing if all you're saying is that its impossible to ever create a situation in which you win by forcing good trades.

What i am saying is that the advantage in lane, in this particular situation, does not belong to Janna/Vayne, but rather blitz/kalista and that, in most early situations, they can force those trades if they wish.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 12 2015 00:21 GMT
#2722
A lot of people are doing the Hurricane build with Kalista now. I guess it's to synergize with her E for AOE damage.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 12 2015 00:23 GMT
#2723
On January 12 2015 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:
A lot of people are doing the Hurricane build with Kalista now. I guess it's to synergize with her E for AOE damage.

It also looks insanely cool too with her hop-back animation. Which is what really matters.
liftlift > tsm
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
January 12 2015 00:25 GMT
#2724
will she be unlocked in week 1 lcs?
Moar banelings less qq
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 00:28:24
January 12 2015 00:27 GMT
#2725
On January 12 2015 09:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:
A lot of people are doing the Hurricane build with Kalista now. I guess it's to synergize with her E for AOE damage.

It also looks insanely cool too with her hop-back animation. Which is what really matters.

That fadeaway swag.

On January 12 2015 09:25 IamPryda wrote:
will she be unlocked in week 1 lcs?

Most likely. Korea is playing on 4.21 with Reksai locked atm.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 00:38:35
January 12 2015 00:37 GMT
#2726
On January 12 2015 09:27 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 09:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 12 2015 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:
A lot of people are doing the Hurricane build with Kalista now. I guess it's to synergize with her E for AOE damage.

It also looks insanely cool too with her hop-back animation. Which is what really matters.

That fadeaway swag.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 09:25 IamPryda wrote:
will she be unlocked in week 1 lcs?

Most likely. Korea is playing on 4.21 with Reksai locked atm.


Rek'Sai is instalock every LMS game, so i expect both to be available in 10 days.

On January 12 2015 09:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 09:21 Sufficiency wrote:
A lot of people are doing the Hurricane build with Kalista now. I guess it's to synergize with her E for AOE damage.

It also looks insanely cool too with her hop-back animation. Which is what really matters.


DL enjoys bt nowdays with hurricane, bf sword -> runaans -> bt/ie.
At least, tonight it's only that.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 00:53:27
January 12 2015 00:51 GMT
#2727
On January 12 2015 07:20 Itchy7x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2015 07:11 Sufficiency wrote:
Janna vs Blitz is a pretty mediocre matchup for Janna at best.

Eh, Janna can disengage pretty well so she can save herself or AD from the all-in (probably lose the trade though). The main thing is that 99% of the Blitzcrank match-ups are skill dependant, so if you can dodge hooks you win, you cannot dodge hooks you lose. Its that simple. But Kalista's laning is garbage because her range is so low, she cannot actually respond to poke well enough by any of the popular AD champs unless the one that is poking makes a mistake.

Kalista has 550 range and can reach stuff beyond using Q. In the context of the discussion it puts her above Vayne, who only has her 550 range autoattacks (well technically she has Tumble range I guess, but still).

And holy hell are you guys being cancerous as fuck again.
Vayne+Janna, eg. Janna's passive, and Vayne has Tumble. There's no way the Blitz could have reached Vayne in the creep wave even if she wanted to auto him for walking forward. And if he follows her she doesn't have to care because if he runs past the creep wave he'll get destroyed 1v2, and otherwise Kalista runs the risk of taking creep aggro herself (and you can't really make a case about her base stats like you tried with Blitz).

You played with a bad/distracted Vayne who fucked up, just admit it instead of trying to make excuses to justify Kalista+Blitz magically wrecking Vayne+Janna with at level 1 with Blitz taking E.
It's not even that hard, just admit someone screwed up, there, done. I saw an Urgot kill Gnar at level 2 today. Doesn't mean zomg Urgot automatically counters Gnar because E has more range than his autos.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 00:56:35
January 12 2015 00:54 GMT
#2728
Kalista is going to be played by TDK in case you are interested.

http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-12 01:12:52
January 12 2015 01:09 GMT
#2729
whats elise doing in a finals in this patch oO










oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 12 2015 01:15 GMT
#2730
On January 12 2015 10:09 LaNague wrote:
whats elise doing in a finals in this patch oO












Winning gaemz.

Botrk into hurricane sounds awful tho for botlane Kalista.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 12 2015 01:30 GMT
#2731
I doubt BotRK is good for Kalista in general, compared to BT, but she needs some early AS, her passive is so weird early on.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 12 2015 01:31 GMT
#2732
LOL. that Kalista kite right there.
liftlift > tsm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 12 2015 01:39 GMT
#2733
Picked jungle back up this season, but I'm shaky at playing any champ except Vi and J4, and picking up Sejuani.

I still don't fully grok Rek'sai (doesnt help that I've only seen it once when it slipped through bans and was first picked by opposing blue team.)

Are there any other junglers that have come into favor that I'm missing out on?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 12 2015 01:39 GMT
#2734
This Kalista is so fucking broken. Please nerf. Gosh.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
January 12 2015 01:42 GMT
#2735
wtf was Louis doing in that last fight? Why head behind the enemy team when corki has GA?
Translator:3
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 12 2015 01:54 GMT
#2736
So basically Kalista has this "all-in" playstyle. You either go IN IN IN or you go OUT OUT OUT. Once you start autoing you basically fully commit.

I think at the time he decided to go IN IN IN.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 12 2015 01:55 GMT
#2737
On January 12 2015 10:39 sylverfyre wrote:
Picked jungle back up this season, but I'm shaky at playing any champ except Vi and J4, and picking up Sejuani.

I still don't fully grok Rek'sai (doesnt help that I've only seen it once when it slipped through bans and was first picked by opposing blue team.)

Are there any other junglers that have come into favor that I'm missing out on?

It's soloq, so Fiddles will pretty much always be a good jungler. Wukong is pretty under the radar for how good he is. Amumu if you need a shitty Sejuani. Could always make use of your flair and play Sion jungle too.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 12 2015 02:06 GMT
#2738
Yup, just play Fiddle jungle. Good times all day long.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 12 2015 02:29 GMT
#2739
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
January 12 2015 03:25 GMT
#2740
On January 12 2015 11:29 JimmiC wrote:
since I got elf teemo does that mean i have to main teemo this season?


It means you have to main him every season.
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