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United States37500 Posts
On January 09 2015 04:33 MattBarry wrote:
Man I don't even know who to root for EU LCS anymore. My boys in Fnatic have all gone their seperate ways. Honestly it's a lot like having your parents divorced. Papa Rekkles moved on and found a new family and now he doesn't even call on your birthday. Momma xpeke/soaz got the house (fnatic) and sold it then went rogue in their midlife crisis to reinvent themselves. Now some group of strangers lives in the home you grew up with and you're lost and don't know what to do
Elements if you like Froggen. Otherwise ROCCAT is a safe bet.
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On January 09 2015 03:23 Goumindong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2015 21:31 Goragoth wrote:
I mean I fully understand why skillshots feel better from a design perspective: they are more interactive (can be dodged), they require more skill to use, they are more interesting to spectate (will it land or not?) etc... but yeah, it sure is nice to have some differentiation. I'm still annoyed that they remade Soraka from 0 skillshots to fully half of her abilities being skillshots. It seems that the balance team is leaning towards moving more spells to being skillshots so I guess there's not much to be done about it (as I said I can understand why, and I'm not even sure I'd do it any differently if I was in their position to be honest).
I am totally ok with the Roka change even though I liked her old q. The roka skill shot changes made them all interesting with counter play. If you changed the way that most point/click operate they could be a lot more interesting and with counter play. For instance more point and clicks could be like caits ult, hitting other champions or minions. Or they could be like nauts which you can outrun. You could make it with a turn radius so that sudden jukes could get you out of it and/or delay impact even if you don't juke backwards.
As someone who played old Soraka quite often and loved her to death, I genuinely enjoy the new version just as much. Of course I tend to play Soraka as this crazed mad unicorn lady who runs at people throwing banana's and starcall's.
So for the people who enjoyed standing near the adc, walking back and forth and being a heal bot I could understand the annoyance at Soraka now being a more pro-active support.
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Baa?21248 Posts
On January 09 2015 04:34 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 04:33 MattBarry wrote:
Man I don't even know who to root for EU LCS anymore. My boys in Fnatic have all gone their seperate ways. Honestly it's a lot like having your parents divorced. Papa Rekkles moved on and found a new family and now he doesn't even call on your birthday. Momma xpeke/soaz got the house (fnatic) and sold it then went rogue in their midlife crisis to reinvent themselves. Now some group of strangers lives in the home you grew up with and you're lost and don't know what to do Elements if you like Froggen. Otherwise ROCCAT is a safe bet.
UOL!
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On January 09 2015 04:37 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 03:23 Goumindong wrote:On January 08 2015 21:31 Goragoth wrote:
I mean I fully understand why skillshots feel better from a design perspective: they are more interactive (can be dodged), they require more skill to use, they are more interesting to spectate (will it land or not?) etc... but yeah, it sure is nice to have some differentiation. I'm still annoyed that they remade Soraka from 0 skillshots to fully half of her abilities being skillshots. It seems that the balance team is leaning towards moving more spells to being skillshots so I guess there's not much to be done about it (as I said I can understand why, and I'm not even sure I'd do it any differently if I was in their position to be honest).
I am totally ok with the Roka change even though I liked her old q. The roka skill shot changes made them all interesting with counter play. If you changed the way that most point/click operate they could be a lot more interesting and with counter play. For instance more point and clicks could be like caits ult, hitting other champions or minions. Or they could be like nauts which you can outrun. You could make it with a turn radius so that sudden jukes could get you out of it and/or delay impact even if you don't juke backwards. As someone who played old Soraka quite often and loved her to death, I genuinely enjoy the new version just as much. Of course I tend to play Soraka as this crazed mad unicorn lady who runs at people throwing banana's and starcall's. So for the people who enjoyed standing near the adc, walking back and forth and being a heal bot I could understand the annoyance at Soraka now being a more pro-active support.
I'm pretty sad i can't jungler her anymore. it was so nice to just farm in the jungle and hit lvl 6 and terrorize the lanes by creating mismatches in every lane by just restoring hp/mana in them.
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United States37500 Posts
On January 09 2015 04:38 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2015 04:34 NeoIllusions wrote:On January 09 2015 04:33 MattBarry wrote:
Man I don't even know who to root for EU LCS anymore. My boys in Fnatic have all gone their seperate ways. Honestly it's a lot like having your parents divorced. Papa Rekkles moved on and found a new family and now he doesn't even call on your birthday. Momma xpeke/soaz got the house (fnatic) and sold it then went rogue in their midlife crisis to reinvent themselves. Now some group of strangers lives in the home you grew up with and you're lost and don't know what to do Elements if you like Froggen. Otherwise ROCCAT is a safe bet. UOL!
Watching them at IEM SJ, I only found Powerofevil particularly enticing to watch. Rest of the team was kinda meh for me.
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UOL won't be a top tier team in Europe I'm afraid. They had one good showing but I don't expect them to dominate their own scene. TSM is fully capable of losing to teams of their caliber, but they're most definitely nothing to fear if you're a top team of your scene.
Unless your scene is in Turkey or LA.
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Now I see why there is no SK flair.
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Why are people starting double golems again instead of red/blue? I feel like I want the smite to hit red.
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Baa?21248 Posts
Smiting Red/Blue regens some HP/Mana, but would be wasted if opening with Smite as you should to save CD. Smiting Golems/Gromp give you a good buff that helps you Jungle, and it's also easier for your laners to leash Golems/Gromp than buffs since they would get to lane late if you start buffs.
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On January 09 2015 06:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
Why are people starting double golems again instead of red/blue? I feel like I want the smite to hit red.
it gets you level 2 and you get the stun buff
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Does Rango goes like really low when he clears jungle? Cause I always start double golems and I'm like really low once I finish 2nd buff.
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On January 09 2015 06:06 obesechicken13 wrote:
Why are people starting double golems again instead of red/blue? I feel like I want the smite to hit red.
Because Golem/Frog give you buffs thst helps you to jungle. Plus you hit 2 with that one camp.
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If you guys plan to lvl 2 gank because there's a good chance to get a kill do you still start golems/gromps or just red and then to lane asap?
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Baa?21248 Posts
On January 09 2015 06:32 AsnSensation wrote:
If you guys plan to lvl 2 gank because there's a good chance to get a kill do you still start golems/gromps or just red and then to lane asap?
Can't imagine why Red wouldn't be better if you're going for the kill.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On January 09 2015 06:32 AsnSensation wrote:
If you guys plan to lvl 2 gank because there's a good chance to get a kill do you still start golems/gromps or just red and then to lane asap?
Gromp/enemy red, no need in going lane :D
On January 09 2015 06:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
I see. So the path is something like double golems -> chickens -> red. I think you do waste some time walking to chickens then back to red though. And the difference between the walking distance from red to bot and golems to bot is rather miniscule.
I'm not that convinced on gromp -> blue yet. I don't feel gromp is that big a deal when clearing camps at level 2.
Birds will smash your face so gromp or rocks/buff-buff/wolves - recall, birds-gank.
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I see. So the path is something like double golems -> chickens -> red. I think you do waste some time walking to chickens then back to red though. And the difference between the walking distance from red to bot and golems to bot is rather miniscule.
I'm not that convinced on gromp -> blue yet. I don't feel gromp is that big a deal when clearing camps at level 2.
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Raptors actually hurt like hell at level 2, you're better off doing red depending on your champions (you can kite it anyway).
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On January 09 2015 06:55 obesechicken13 wrote:
I see. So the path is something like double golems -> chickens -> red. I think you do waste some time walking to chickens then back to red though. And the difference between the walking distance from red to bot and golems to bot is rather miniscule.
I'm not that convinced on gromp -> blue yet. I don't feel gromp is that big a deal when clearing camps at level 2.
For many junglers, you actually need to wait a bit between the second camp and the buff camp so your Smite comes back.
So no, the time wasted from wraith back to red is not important.
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On January 09 2015 06:32 AsnSensation wrote:
If you guys plan to lvl 2 gank because there's a good chance to get a kill do you still start golems/gromps or just red and then to lane asap?
I recommend you to lvl 3 gank after two camps and a buff.
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On January 09 2015 06:25 739 wrote:
Does Rango goes like really low when he clears jungle? Cause I always start double golems and I'm like really low once I finish 2nd buff.
Yeah he does, i found 2 suitable ways.
1) start right side so bot can help u golems/frog, clear 3 camps, go back for purple upgrade, go left side of the jungle.
2) lvl 2 gank. start wherever u think its more needed (preferably red). Start from the buff (red/blue) go for lvl 2 gank with empowered bola in lvl 1 lane, hit your bola => profit
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