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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 09 2014 04:33 GMT
#81
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
October 09 2014 04:36 GMT
#82
On October 09 2014 13:33 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 13:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 13:22 Requizen wrote:
I mean, it's likely that the barrier to entry into the LCS is daunting compared to other games where it's not a limited league or is open entry/invitation, but still.

the barrier to entry is half a fucking CoL team, and some shitlord challenger teams.


^

honestly could make the lcs by making a random team of 'ok' free agents right now.

nien, prolly(?), robertxlee, Impactful, nintendude(?), etc.
not the greatest team but took me 5 seconds to think of a team that could probably make the LCS. not to mention TL doesn't really have the issues/drama other teams/orgs seem to have.

Nien and Nintendude are on a team currently, but TL could just as easily buy it up or name partner themselves I think. Idk, I never tried to set that kind of shit up and I don't know TL's situation.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 09 2014 04:40 GMT
#83
On October 09 2014 13:22 Gahlo wrote:
Shit like this makes me wonder why we're still here.

It's all water under the bridge for me. I'm past caring. League is just a game I play now because I like it.
The past aside, TeamLiquid will always be my home until I'm too old/busy to check online sites daily.

On October 09 2014 13:24 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
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On October 09 2014 13:22 Gahlo wrote:
Shit like this makes me wonder why we're still here.

Cuz u luv us bby

God damn tho srs TL xD

Neo what's it like hanging out with all these moderators and knowing you're the TL chump

I got a cool Nocturne avatar for my two years of work. Seems pretty worth.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 04:42:28
October 09 2014 04:40 GMT
#84
I think TL could make an lcs team out of challenger stars without taking current pro scene burnouts.

But I suppose there is too much disrespect here for that.

I don't know why, TL could make truckloads of money off of LoL.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 09 2014 04:42 GMT
#85
Considering the LCS expansion, I don't think it would be too difficult to form a team of bottom feeders that make it into the LCS. That's just my opinion though.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 09 2014 04:42 GMT
#86
On October 09 2014 13:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 13:22 Gahlo wrote:
Shit like this makes me wonder why we're still here.

It's all water under the bridge for me. I'm past caring. League is just a game I play now because I like it.
The past aside, TeamLiquid will always be my home until I'm too old/busy to check online sites daily.

Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 13:24 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On October 09 2014 13:22 Gahlo wrote:
Shit like this makes me wonder why we're still here.

Cuz u luv us bby

God damn tho srs TL xD

Neo what's it like hanging out with all these moderators and knowing you're the TL chump

I got a cool Nocturne avatar for my two years of work. Seems pretty worth.

tl;dr. got icon. #worth.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35158 Posts
October 09 2014 04:44 GMT
#87
On October 09 2014 13:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Considering the LCS expansion, I don't think it would be too difficult to form a team of bottom feeders that make it into the LCS. That's just my opinion though.

In addition to the LMQ spot freeing up if the rumors are true.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 09 2014 04:45 GMT
#88
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 09 2014 04:49 GMT
#89
Making a HotS team is probably way cheaper and easier to make one that's actually competitive. Yeah, they could scrounge up some challengers/LCS rejects, but I can understand not wanting to make the investment to field a 10th place team.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 09 2014 04:52 GMT
#90
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 09 2014 04:59 GMT
#91
IMO, TL should just help sponsor Cloud 9. That way C9 can put the TL logo on their jackets and TSM can finally be acknowledged as the team of evil.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 09 2014 05:20 GMT
#92
also you know, a heroes team doesn't have to worry about dealing with riot.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 05:27:51
October 09 2014 05:26 GMT
#93
On October 09 2014 14:20 PrinceXizor wrote:
also you know, a heroes team doesn't have to worry about dealing with riot.

they also don't get a nice riot check either. Also, what part of Riot's player/team contract do you find that TL might have issues with?
liftlift > tsm
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 09 2014 05:29 GMT
#94
On October 09 2014 14:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 14:20 PrinceXizor wrote:
also you know, a heroes team doesn't have to worry about dealing with riot.

they also don't get a nice riot check either.


Or the amount of publicity that LoL has compared to everything else out there.

Whatever, I suppose I should just get over it. TL has no love for LoL.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 05:33:23
October 09 2014 05:32 GMT
#95
I said it before, but I don't see how TL directly supporting LoL actually benefits us as a community.

It's one of those things where I could never understand the obsession everyone else had with it.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 05:33:11
October 09 2014 05:32 GMT
#96
On October 09 2014 14:29 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 14:26 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 09 2014 14:20 PrinceXizor wrote:
also you know, a heroes team doesn't have to worry about dealing with riot.

they also don't get a nice riot check either.


Or the amount of publicity that LoL has compared to everything else out there.

Whatever, I suppose I should just get over it. TL has no love for LoL.

I love LoL... sorta... rip.
On October 09 2014 14:32 TheYango wrote:
I said it before, but I don't see how TL directly supporting LoL actually benefits us as a community.

Less TSM fans.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 09 2014 05:37 GMT
#97
Heroes still doesnt make sense to me. I played a ton of Alpha for like 2 weeks, and it was an awesome fangasm killing Kerrigan with Illidan, but after that it was the silliest game. I honestly don't know how they can have a competitive scene. Skill differentiation just seems so low.

Then again, I didn't understand or enjoy competitive poker either.
Freeeeeeedom
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
October 09 2014 05:38 GMT
#98
On October 09 2014 11:00 xes wrote:
The best mechanic is to remove crit from the game. ADCs already have Attackspeed as a much better scaling multiplier on physical damage than CDR could provide

The second best way is to turn crit into what it actually is, a % damage amplifier. Without infinity edge, each % crit is basically a % increase in damage (and 1.5% increase in damage with IE)

No. The third(or fourth depending on how you look at it) multiplicative ensures that AD's can be lategame powerhouses without granting them early game strength.

If you just use AD and Attack speed then you will wind up with AD or attack speed cheap enough to break the game in other ways. In order to make up for the 50% crit and 50% crit bonus damage that AD's end up with AD's would have to attack 75% faster than they do now.

Ashe, an AD with no A-speed steroids but robust attack speed growth, with a Phantom Dancer winds up with 122% bonus attack speed. In order to attack 75% faster than she does now she would need to find another 91.5% attack speed on items when she currently only buys 50%.


Ignoring the fact that most AD's would hit the attack speed cap very quickly you can't make that item or add that much attack speed into the current set of items and not have it be hilariously OP and not catapult the strength of AD's much quicker than intended.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 05:41:44
October 09 2014 05:41 GMT
#99
On October 09 2014 14:37 cLutZ wrote:
Heroes still doesnt make sense to me. I played a ton of Alpha for like 2 weeks, and it was an awesome fangasm killing Kerrigan with Illidan, but after that it was the silliest game. I honestly don't know how they can have a competitive scene. Skill differentiation just seems so low.

Then again, I didn't understand or enjoy competitive poker either.

I mean it could be end up being like Smash, where it's initially some party game at the most basic level, but sneakily be a mechanically intense game that requires frame perfect timings.+ Show Spoiler +
but it probably won't be
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 09 2014 05:48 GMT
#100
On October 09 2014 14:32 TheYango wrote:
I said it before, but I don't see how TL directly supporting LoL actually benefits us as a community.

It's one of those things where I could never understand the obsession everyone else had with it.

Yango we just wanna feel loved.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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