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Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
November 05 2014 05:26 GMT
#3101
On November 05 2014 14:01 phyvo wrote:
Reindeer kog reskin is such an upgrade, I'm happy. Also, I want to somehow make Kalista a support. 1400 range thresh lantern, right? Must be a support.


Bonus magic damage when her and her AD attack the same target, sounds good. Depends if you can change your linked champion. Otherwise you have no initiation skill
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 05 2014 05:28 GMT
#3102
Red/Blue buff now spawn at the same time as everything else on the PBE.

Need to look into what other changes were made.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
November 05 2014 05:49 GMT
#3103
On November 05 2014 14:26 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 14:01 phyvo wrote:
Reindeer kog reskin is such an upgrade, I'm happy. Also, I want to somehow make Kalista a support. 1400 range thresh lantern, right? Must be a support.


Bonus magic damage when her and her AD attack the same target, sounds good. Depends if you can change your linked champion. Otherwise you have no initiation skill


You can't change your linked champion unfortunately. It's kinda moot anyways because after testing I find her movement passive REALLY annoying. I can't put my finger on exactly why. I mean it's kinda the same inputs as normal kiting minus the humungous distance you travel. Maybe I'm lazy? I don't know. I don't like having to catch Draven axes or farm Cass passive either.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 05 2014 06:37 GMT
#3104
That Skarner skin looks terrible. Too rigid in movement.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 05 2014 07:14 GMT
#3105
that Ryze Q nerf
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
November 05 2014 07:15 GMT
#3106
Reeks of a certainlyT champ and at first glance looks horrendously power (specially mobility) crept/creeped. But it also looks super clunky. Predicting bug fixes -> OP -> nerfed.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 05 2014 07:21 GMT
#3107
Friend of mine on first seeing Kalista: So with her passive, is she a hoplite?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
November 05 2014 07:25 GMT
#3108
reported jk
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 05 2014 07:30 GMT
#3109
On November 05 2014 16:14 AsnSensation wrote:
that Ryze Q nerf


The Ryze Q nerf shows that Riot nerfs champions not for the sake of balance, but for the sake of reshuffling the champiom pool.



I mean we all know about this for years now, but this Ryze nerf was definitely the most blatant attempt.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 05 2014 07:40 GMT
#3110
On November 05 2014 16:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 16:14 AsnSensation wrote:
that Ryze Q nerf


The Ryze Q nerf shows that Riot nerfs champions not for the sake of balance, but for the sake of reshuffling the champiom pool.



I mean we all know about this for years now, but this Ryze nerf was definitely the most blatant attempt.

Jokes, right?
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
November 05 2014 08:17 GMT
#3111
Up to this point, Ryze is just a balance nightmare though. Too strong or too weak.

Also, has Alaric seen that they included a Vi bug fix yet?
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 05 2014 08:17 GMT
#3112
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 05 2014 08:36 GMT
#3113
lol@azir buffs
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 05 2014 08:37 GMT
#3114
On November 05 2014 17:17 justiceknight wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d58MlmNy7Ag&list=UUu2_KLG7OyngCKVucgsGtBA


I was excited for this... but it looks like the laziest of all the battlecasts.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 09:34:51
November 05 2014 09:25 GMT
#3115
Kalista can't cancel her autos, and her animation is apparently purposely slow. So... you're really mobile once the animation completes, but using it to perform dodges isn't reliable (depends on until how late you can trigger the passive I guess) and you can't really use it to ga closer (maybe in conjunction with Q depending on its animation?), you also waste time if you lose vision because the animation doesn't stop but you deal no damage (and it's made worse if you need vision until the projectile hits).
Eh, I guess in the end (especially with the animation) it's not as idiotic an idea as it initially sounded. Also more decision-making than mechanics to use it well, if it's about planning positioning and being reactive rather than more powerful but harder kiting.

On November 05 2014 17:17 JazzVortical wrote:
Up to this point, Ryze is just a balance nightmare though. Too strong or too weak.

Also, has Alaric seen that they included a Vi bug fix yet?

Na, missed it he first time (I'd swear it wasn't there but I'm exhausted enough that my mind may be playing tricks).
That's the least consequential bug I've ever seen about her. Never noticed it myself, and much less impactful than Q hitbox/R cc "immunity".

On November 05 2014 16:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 16:14 AsnSensation wrote:
that Ryze Q nerf


The Ryze Q nerf shows that Riot nerfs champions not for the sake of balance, but for the sake of reshuffling the champiom pool.



I mean we all know about this for years now, but this Ryze nerf was definitely the most blatant attempt.

See if at least you'd have referenced Ahri's last buff I could have believed you. But this nerf? Ryze is at the level Tristana is at when she dominated because not weak enough early (or rather midgame), only thing that kept her in check was Lucian being broken, and the Corki match-up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
November 05 2014 11:56 GMT
#3116
This new bottom ad is such cancer. Normally don't block add on TL, but screw this.

I also hate the term [xxx is cancer] but it pretty much sums up my feelings on this. TL PLIS
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-05 12:30:18
November 05 2014 11:57 GMT
#3117
I really wish that the Kalista "revealed" information gave more clarity on her passive. For example: say Kalista hits 2.0 attack speed through items; does this mean she will now have 2 dashes every second if she orb walks perfectly?
That seems rather extreme in the hands of a professional player.

Also her numbers on "oathsworn"+ Show Spoiler +
12 / 14 / 16 / 18 / 20% of target's maximum health
seem on the high side for a passive ability with no mana consumption.

edit: misread
As far as top lane ADs go this new champ will most likely place among the top. Her passive and E alone will make it a nightmare to lock her down without jungle interference, on top of her having quite a bit of motivation to pick up BotRK.

Seems like the best way to use the E for harass would be to have a minion queued to die as you put the dmg on your target for an instant reset.

On November 05 2014 16:21 Gahlo wrote:
Friend of mine on first seeing Kalista: So with her passive, is she a hoplite?

peltast! 8) cause Rome 2 said so.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 05 2014 12:03 GMT
#3118
On November 05 2014 20:57 DonKey_ wrote:
I really wish that the Kalista "revealed" information gave more clarity on her passive. For example: say Kalista hits 2.0 attack speed through items; does this mean she will now have 2 dashes every second if she orb walks perfectly?
That seems rather extreme in the hands of a professional player.


It's not orb walking and yes that's exactly what it means. I'm assuming at a certain attack speed it's impossible to dash with every attack as you'll be either missing attacks or missing dashes.
Chemiczny84
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland458 Posts
November 05 2014 12:24 GMT
#3119
where is the darkness? And a new thread?
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
November 05 2014 12:26 GMT
#3120
I just realised if Maknoon fails the LCS qualifier he can just go play top for EG.
@miicah88
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