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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 11 2014 03:24 Osmoses wrote: What did thorin say to begin with? :p It was at ESL Poland where he said stuff like there being nothing in Poland and how bad the country is. Now after being removed from Ongamers he issued a wall of text where be basically says his remarks weren't offensive and were merely based off his Polish friends knowledge of Poland and the "worlds" view of Poland. TLDR: Still an ape. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 11 2014 03:34 Ketara wrote: TL;DR version. Thorin said racist shit about Poland. Thorins job told him to STFU. Thorin was later fired for saying other offensive things. Since he was fired, he was then allowed to talk about the things he said, so he wrote a gigantic treatise trying to explain the Poland stuff in context so he didn't seem racist. But when you read it, the treatise is still pretty racist and it's lol. The whole thing is basically "I said Poland was a shitty country. But in my defense, that's true." I mean, we constantly hear the jabs at America, about landwhales everywhere, and 44oz sodas are the norm. No one gets flak for making those jokes. But, all of a sudden some British dudes opinion about Poland gets overblown by everyone, and everyone loses their shit. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11960 Posts
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-Zoda-
France3578 Posts
On October 11 2014 03:47 Simberto wrote: We still need a new word to describe "prejudiced and kind of an asshole about it against a country" because racist is currently getting used for that, but that is not what that word means. What about xenophobia ? | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 11 2014 03:53 Ketara wrote: Yeah that's the word you want, it just doesn't have the same connotation. Racist works fine. Dislike of a country is vastly different than dislike of the people. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 11 2014 04:06 AlterKot wrote: b-but thorin said nothing wrong :| Think about this: What if Homura did nothing wrong? | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
As soon as less offensive people start coming out with the same level of content that he does, he'll fade away. Until then, I guess we just have to deal with him. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 11 2014 04:15 BrownBear wrote: Thorin will always be relevant as long as he remains one of the high water marks for content creation. People hate him but love SI, his historical articles, etc. As soon as less offensive people start coming out with the same level of content that he does, he'll fade away. Until then, I guess we just have to deal with him. A non offensive journalist that's good? rofl. that'll never happen. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
he frames every question with "now listen to this really smart comment ive got, this really unique point of view, oh yea you can talk now". thats not deep understanding of the subject, thats asking leading questions. the best interviewers in the world ask concise questions, that allow the answerer to move around and change the topic as they see. seeing how someone perceives a simple question tells you more about their mindset and their feelings than their answer does. someone being offended by a simple remark shows you they are feeling defensive, someone trying to associate your current question with another topic shows you what they care about. when you spend 2 minutes specifying the question down to exactly the answer you want, you might as well just google the answer anyway. especially when we already know that player and org management reserved the right to pull permission after the interview already took place, these detailed questions arent going to force out any extra info. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 11 2014 04:25 turdburgler wrote: maybe im just crazy but i never thought thorins content was actually objectively... good. hes better than that rimjob artist travis but thats not saying anything at all. the overarching feeling i got watching thorins interviews are that hes in love with himself, he is absolutely sure of his own intelligence. he frames every question with "now listen to this really smart comment ive got, this really unique point of view, oh yea you can talk now". thats not deep understanding of the subject, thats asking leading questions. the best interviewers in the world ask concise questions, that allow the answerer to move around and change the topic as they see. seeing how someone perceives a simple question tells you more about their mindset and their feelings than their answer does. someone being offended by a simple remark shows you they are feeling defensive, someone trying to associate your current question with another topic shows you what they care about. when you spend 2 minutes specifying the question down to exactly the answer you want, you might as well just google the answer anyway. especially when we already know that player and org management reserved the right to pull permission after the interview already took place, these detailed questions arent going to force out any extra info. i don't know if i agree with this in place of esports pro players or athletes. their answers have all been fairly shit if the question isn't very specific. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On October 11 2014 02:23 GrandInquisitor wrote: Great NYT article on LoL: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/12/technology/riot-games-league-of-legends-main-attraction-esports.html In particular these heat graphs are really cool to look at: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/10/technology/league-of-legends-graphic.html?_r=1 I remember saying that Riot doesn't make any money off of eSports and everyone called me crazy ;_; | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 11 2014 04:10 Requizen wrote: Think about this: What if Homura did nothing wrong? Homura did do nothing wrong! | ||
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