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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 11 2014 04:18 wei2coolman wrote: A non offensive journalist that's good? rofl. that'll never happen. I rely on informative content that comes from non-offensive journalists for all the other spheres of my life, I'm not sure why esports will somehow manage to be the exception from now to the end of the universe. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:10 phyvo wrote: I rely on informative content that comes from non-offensive journalists for all the other spheres of my life, I'm not sure why esports will somehow manage to be the exception from now to the end of the universe. Because if they aren't controversial at the very least they don't get many hits and most of the people who want to do actual content need to be paid to do it. Dunno why people care so much about thoorin tbh.I like his content so I watch/read it.He does try to troll too much though.A lot of people can't handle it. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:15 nafta wrote: Because if they aren't controversial at the very least they don't get many hits and most of the people who want to do actual content need to be paid to do it. Dunno why people care so much about thoorin tbh.I like his content so I watch/read it.He does try to troll too much though.A lot of people can't handle it. Ive never paid enough attention to him to know if he's "trying to troll" but whenever i hear or see anything to do with him its just him being a giant bag of penises. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:10 phyvo wrote: I rely on informative content that comes from non-offensive journalists for all the other spheres of my life, I'm not sure why esports will somehow manage to be the exception from now to the end of the universe. Good journalists are always critical of everything they're researching, the natural inclination is a douchey personality.Can't really be a good journalist without being a bit douchey. You either like crappy journalists. Or you don't actually know your journalists, because their personal lives and personal opinions are so insignificant compared to the large number of other journalists. Thorin only gets grief for his viewpoint because relative to esports he's one of the very few journalists in the field. If he wrote football articles no one even care about his personal viewpoints on shit like poland because it's unimportant. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:19 Capped wrote: Ive never paid enough attention to him to know if he's "trying to troll" but whenever i hear or see anything to do with him its just him being a giant bag of penises. I dunno from watching SI it always sounds/looks like he is just saying dumb shit cause he thinks it is funny and wants to get a reaction like the poland stuff. Most people who have been to slavic/eastern european countries have the same views as him I would imagine.Hell I live in one and think so. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:15 nafta wrote: Because if they aren't controversial at the very least they don't get many hits and most of the people who want to do actual content need to be paid to do it. Uh, as I said, I have already found news sources I trust in other spheres in my life. What you say is certainly a true influence on news (and why I don't read tabloids or watch network news) but it's hardly unique to esports. Besides, there are ways to cover controversial stories and hold some controversial opinions without being a jerk about it. On October 11 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote: Good journalists are always critical of everything they're researching, the natural inclination is a douchey personality.Can't really be a good journalist without being a bit douchey. You either like crappy journalists. Or you don't actually know your journalists, because their personal lives and personal opinions are so insignificant compared to the large number of other journalists. Thorin only gets grief for his viewpoint because relative to esports he's one of the very few journalists in the field. If he wrote football articles no one even care about his personal viewpoints on shit like poland because it's unimportant. Yeah, no, I flat out disagree, especially when the comments in question were part of a broadcast rather than his personal blog or part of some random interview (of him). Feel free to call my news sources crappy journalists 'cause they don't randomly say offensive stuff in the middle of the news-related content I consume. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
tbh my biggest qualm with Thoorin isn't his inability to turn off his "master of arguments" persona but that he won't put the shit in mp3 format so I can listen to it at the gym seeing the faces does nothing for me lol | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:31 Slusher wrote: I think if someone were to see my reaction to reading Thoorin's tweets they would never be able to understand why I follow him, but I enjoy reflections or w/e it's called now that much. I like summoning insight to an extent, despite the fact that both Thoorin and Monte can be incredibly sure of some wrong opinions. That said Monte does bring enough value to the program to throw it up on the 2nd screen instead of some random solo q stream. tbh my biggest qualm with Thoorin isn't his inability to turn off his "master of arguments" persona but that he won't put the shit in mp3 format so I can listen to it at the gym seeing the faces does nothing for me lol You can just go to any youtube to mp3 site and make it yourself.Yeah it is annoying but still :D. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:31 Slusher wrote: I think if someone were to see my reaction to reading Thoorin's tweets they would never be able to understand why I follow him, but I enjoy reflections or w/e it's called now that much. I like summoning insight to an extent, despite the fact that both Thoorin and Monte can be incredibly sure of some wrong opinions. That said Monte does bring enough value to the program to throw it up on the 2nd screen instead of some random solo q stream. tbh my biggest qualm with Thoorin isn't his inability to turn off his "master of arguments" persona but that he won't put the shit in mp3 format so I can listen to it at the gym seeing the faces does nothing for me lol Cant you convert the youtube / twitch vods yourself? (Like, there are websites that'll do it for free in seconds and let u download it.) | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:36 Capped wrote: Cant you convert the youtube / twitch vods yourself? (Like, there are websites that'll do it for free in seconds and let u download it.) yea there are even websites that do it for somewhat-instantly if you put in the url it's just a hassle (comparative to other operations on a computer ofc it's not hard) | ||
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Skrita
Czech Republic55 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I still wouldn't play him sup though, he'd be squishy as hell. His base hp is the lowest in the game. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
Is there a hard cap on Glory in Death? What happens if Sion's death timer runs out while Zombie Sion is still alive? | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:56 Fusilero wrote: So ryze is back in Riot's sights again. Currently on PBE they've taken away mana scalings on E and W. Gonna be interesting to see where this goes. Might be in part because in the preseason patch everybody got like +100 mana at level 1. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
COST: 70 / 75 / 80 / 85 / 90 mana COOLDOWN: 13 seconds after shield expires Shield Strength: 30 / 55 / 80 / 105 / 130 (+ 40% AP) (+ 10% of maximum health) Magic Damage: 40 / 65 / 90 / 115 / 140 (+ 40% AP) (+ 10 / 11 / 12 / 13 / 14% of target's maximum health) The biggest part is the damage, but even then you gain maybe 10% of the level 1 value per level. On the other hand, Q multiplies its base damage every time you level up (level 2 = twice level 1, level 3 = thrice level 1, etc.) and the cooldown lowers. Since you have a good 2s where it doesn't starts, it has less value on the uptime (same as Garen's E or Vi's Q for example) but the damage alone is worth it. Unless your opponent has a ranged hard cc for you, he'll avoid stepping in or stepping your Q anyway, and its maximum base damage is so high that you can clear the wave ridiculously well if you so wish it. On October 11 2014 05:53 Alzadar wrote: I had a Sion support in my game yesterday, didn't seem very good. Of course, he didn't know he was support until the last pick announced he could only play jungle. Is there a hard cap on Glory in Death? What happens if Sion's death timer runs out while Zombie Sion is still alive? The longer he is alive, the faster his health drains, so it's over pretty fast. Doesn't his death timer only start after he dies anyway? Like Karthus, Zyra and Kog? Apparently on Dominion if you use the revive trinket fast enough you'll revive in your passive's state... and promptly die again, then.  | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:53 Alzadar wrote: I had a Sion support in my game yesterday, didn't seem very good. Of course, he didn't know he was support until the last pick announced he could only play jungle. Is there a hard cap on Glory in Death? What happens if Sion's death timer runs out while Zombie Sion is still alive? There is no hard cap but the % HP loss increases over time and as a result the absolute max is 20-30 seconds according to Riot. In a real game I don't think that's remotely possible, you would have to build low HP, high lifesteal/damage, be attacking a stationary target, and not be attacked yourself. Realistically speaking you'll last less than 8 seconds. If sion's death timer runs out while zombie sion is alive I think you just instantly respawn after zombie sion dies, IIRC it happened to me once at level 1. | ||
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On October 11 2014 03:41 wei2coolman wrote: I mean, we constantly hear the jabs at America, about landwhales everywhere, and 44oz sodas are the norm. No one gets flak for making those jokes. But, all of a sudden some British dudes opinion about Poland gets overblown by everyone, and everyone loses their shit. Words carry the weight of their history and that history is context specific. This applies not just to individual words, but also to criticisms, and to jokes. Its why white people don't get to say the n-word in any context. Its why "conservative comedy" isn't funny but is just offensive instead With jokes, or random opinions in general, you can punch up, but you can't punch down. Its why rape jokes which make fun of rapists or the state of our acceptance of rape can be funny, but rape jokes that make fun of people who have been raped aren't. Its why jokes that make fun of the state of discrimination in the world can be funny, but jokes that make fun of those discriminated populations are not. The key to crafting jokes that aren't offensive and the key to expressing opinions that aren't offensive is to not go after the traditionally victimized group. Ever. No one cares about landwhale jabs because America isn't a traditionally victimized group. We are the victimizers, we have the guns, the bombs, and we use them. Whether you believe we are the hero or the villain we have the power. Make fun of us all you want we are still king shit of poop mountain on this earth. Thorin was being an asshole to a group of people who have been consistently looked down upon(for no good reason either). He was doing so from the position of historical power rather than historical weakness. He hit every "Jesus Christ what the fuck is wrong with you, you bigoted racist asshole" button you could possibly hit when talking about this population of people while talking publicly to this group of people. Its no wonder everyone lost their shit, they should have. On October 11 2014 04:18 wei2coolman wrote: A non offensive journalist that's good? rofl. that'll never happen. Why would a good journalist have to yell the n-word(or insert any other offensive term you want)? Good journalists punch up. They find shit that is messed up and that people in power aren't fixing and they expose it. That isn't offensive. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 11 2014 05:36 Slusher wrote: actually to expand this really comes back to the same problem that I always bring up when Monte and Thoorin criticism is brought by me or others. It isn't their fault that they are the only source of non-fluff material out there (this is mostly a riot problem) but this creates a problem where anyone that challenges their occasionally Heinous opinions just gets countered with mockery and and ridicule on twitter whilst THoorin straw mans them to death and there is nothing they can do about it due to lack of stage. Right. People like me will continue to defend thorin because the evidence indicates he will not be replaced by Dan Wetzel or even Michael Wilbon. We would get Stacey King, or a number of other homer-type Travis clones. | ||
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