[Patch 4.18] Sion Reborn General Discussion - Page 135

On November 01 2014 04:12 Alaric wrote:
I'd say the issue with such a build is that you lack means to make people actually attack you. You can't let a Maokai or Zac sit on your face, but Annie's base damage isn't exceptional (nor is the sustain she'd get from Q spam), she lacks mobility and stickiness outside of using the rylai slow (which is meh), and her auto animation + base AS are bad enough that she doesn't do much during downtimes.

Tibbers can force people to deal with it but it dies rather quickly, and it makes people attack it, not you. I'd surmise you're not enough of a threat with such a build to actually reap its benefits. Even your initiation is flash-reliant.


Woah, EUW is so busted. Took 25+ seconds to switch my summoner spells, about as long to take into account my rune switching, doesn't display allies' picks, "retrieving data from server" and almost a minute to launch a game, etc.
Getting the TT icon is hard if people don't connect.

On November 01 2014 05:06 nafta wrote:
About annie top just build full damage.Tankyness is useless on that champ.Dfg>sorc boots with distortion.

On November 01 2014 05:16 Uldridge wrote:


I understand it's optimal to build her nukemage, that's what her skills obviously show.
I just want to see how I can exploit something like molten shield on max cdr in synergy with thornmail and rylais.

There should be a bunch of champs that could be brought out of their conventional role played, repurposed as something else (like morgana and annie for examples of great repurposes for example) with moderate to good success imo.

On November 01 2014 05:16 Uldridge wrote:


I understand it's optimal to build her nukemage, that's what her skills obviously show.
I just want to see how I can exploit something like molten shield on max cdr in synergy with thornmail and rylais.

There should be a bunch of champs that could be brought out of their conventional role played, repurposed as something else (like morgana and annie for examples of great repurposes for example) with moderate to good success imo.

On November 01 2014 05:30 Uldridge wrote:
But Vel'koz support is already a thing. And mostly does most damage of the entire team, just like Zyra.
I'll check out the champ pool and see what champs have some skills that seem to be severely underused.

On November 01 2014 05:38 Simberto wrote:
You can always play full tank morde. Your goal in fights is to be in the middle, soak a bit of damage, and most importantly ult whichever of their carries dies first, preferably obviously the ADC. At that point you are suddenly immortal and have a sixth teammember. Can't be more hipster than that.

On November 01 2014 05:40 Alzadar wrote:


Might as well play Yorick then.

On November 01 2014 05:40 Uldridge wrote:
Yes, I see that you've given that definition a few replies ago, but it's slow at work here and I can't reply superfast to this discussion so I came a bit bheind :D

Anyway, what about this build for gangplank, aka the nukeplank build.
You basically become an adc with attack speed of 1 every 2.4 seconds or something (range 600, so quite decend)
Build is: Hydra, muramana, trinity force, last whisper, infnity edge and cooldown boots. Your q absolutely destroys carries. Downside is: you basically only have your q, LOL

On November 01 2014 05:45 NeoIllusions wrote:
The downside is way too much of a drawback. You aren't even guaranteed to be in range to Q the enemy carries and you pretty much die instantly the moment you're caught cause you're full glass cannon.

For GP, I like building IBG more. Omen/Banshee's depending on the resist that you need more and IE to make your Q and autos do respectable damage. You bring a lot more utility with the slow AoE in team fights and you itemize so that you can actually go into fights and make use of your autos/passive.

On November 01 2014 05:51 Uldridge wrote:


Yeah I've realized that drawback a few games of playing him, another drawback is building the 2 most costly items in the shop and waiting untill 750 mana for the tear stacks, but is it satisfying to nuke carries.
Although you won't always be in range to hit the carries, you can always play safe, q poke the tanks (you'll chunk them hard too trust me) and when they jump on you, cc you, cleanse and aa them to death. Your e, tf and upgraded boots (whatever enchantment you take) and aa/q, should make you able to kite a LITTLE bit for survivability imo.

But yeah, gp doesn't really have a smooth optimal build atm, I really loved the Zeusplank build last season but since masteries changed, he suddenly because not viable anymore if I remember correctly. Too bad, too bad..

On November 01 2014 05:51 Uldridge wrote:


Yeah I've realized that drawback a few games of playing him, another drawback is building the 2 most costly items in the shop and waiting untill 750 mana for the tear stacks, but is it satisfying to nuke carries.
Although you won't always be in range to hit the carries, you can always play safe, q poke the tanks (you'll chunk them hard too trust me) and when they jump on you, cc you, cleanse and aa them to death. Your e, tf and upgraded boots (whatever enchantment you take) and aa/q, should make you able to kite a LITTLE bit for survivability imo.

But yeah, gp doesn't really have a smooth optimal build atm, I really loved the Zeusplank build last season but since masteries changed, he suddenly because not viable anymore if I remember correctly. Too bad, too bad..