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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2014 17:23 GMT
#661
So I've played a couple games on the new Soraka and I think I like her overall. She seems more fun than the old Soraka and I really, really like Equinox. Although I wish it popped like a quarter second sooner or was a little wider because it's quite easy for the enemy to just walk out of it (seems like a better follow up tool than initiation but it puts it in a weird place during laning phase. Also the range of the heal is painfully short. Basically need to be standing on top of champions in order to heal them so healing a tank during a team fight can get rough and make positioning rough.

How have people been building her? Not sure what to grab after standard support items.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 01 2014 17:27 GMT
#662
The answer to playing soraka is intentionally let your team get low so you can race car around, healing them just ruins the fun
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 01 2014 17:27 GMT
#663
On October 02 2014 01:37 sharky246 wrote:
i thought faker took a hit in popularity after not making it to worlds.

Faker's popularity skyrocketed because he didn't make it to worlds. People started to relate to his 1v9 struggles.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 17:28:45
October 01 2014 17:28 GMT
#664
On October 02 2014 02:27 Fusilero wrote:
The answer to playing soraka is intentionally let your team get low so you can race car around, healing them just ruins the fun

I'm not gonna debate that that is incredibly fun.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 17:30:27
October 01 2014 17:30 GMT
#665
On October 02 2014 01:14 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2014 23:30 jaybrundage wrote:
Rammus is in a decent spot. Very strong early ganking. Good Dmg early levels. And late game he becomes a good front line tank. He might get a reduction in his Q dmg I believe as its rather high at level 1. Oh and the QoL change was also a decent buff. While not huge definitely helped him.


it's not, in fact a lot of Rammus specialists put a 2nd point in Q before maxing E, because it's something stupid like a 100% damage increase, at rank 2 it does pretty nice damage.

going from 100 -> 150 isn't a 100% dmg increase
I've never heard of anyone taking lvl2Q on standard jungle Rammus before maxing W and E before
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 17:43:55
October 01 2014 17:39 GMT
#666
The damage increase on level 2 Q isn't actually that much, I rather have the extra cc duration of taunt to get another auto attack in, which probably ends up being more damage anyways.

Also, I wouldn't even call the Rammus changes QoL, they were strictly a buff, and the abilities by design should have canceled each other out.
On October 02 2014 02:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
I want 9 ping in solo queue too.

played with 8 ping when I was going to college, not gunna lie, having absolutely no lag is pretty fucking awesome, until you do something really stupid and can't blame it on lag.
liftlift > tsm
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 01 2014 17:43 GMT
#667
I've had around 100 in every game I played except aoe1-2 on old ms zone for some reason I could get 50-60 and that was ten years ago. Midwest internet connection to LA/NYC just isn't great.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
October 01 2014 17:44 GMT
#668
50-55ms here on EUW..
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 01 2014 17:48 GMT
#669
On October 02 2014 02:44 739 wrote:
50-55ms here on EUW..

when it's up*
liftlift > tsm
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6211 Posts
October 01 2014 17:50 GMT
#670
The azubu app is actually pretty nice and functional, just comparing to the twitch app. Not bad. I miss being able to watch via browser on phone but it's not bad at all.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 01 2014 18:08 GMT
#671
On October 02 2014 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I've played a couple games on the new Soraka and I think I like her overall. She seems more fun than the old Soraka and I really, really like Equinox. Although I wish it popped like a quarter second sooner or was a little wider because it's quite easy for the enemy to just walk out of it (seems like a better follow up tool than initiation but it puts it in a weird place during laning phase. Also the range of the heal is painfully short. Basically need to be standing on top of champions in order to heal them so healing a tank during a team fight can get rough and make positioning rough.

How have people been building her? Not sure what to grab after standard support items.


Yo, when are you going to play ranked so you can carry me to gold?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 01 2014 18:13 GMT
#672
On October 02 2014 03:08 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I've played a couple games on the new Soraka and I think I like her overall. She seems more fun than the old Soraka and I really, really like Equinox. Although I wish it popped like a quarter second sooner or was a little wider because it's quite easy for the enemy to just walk out of it (seems like a better follow up tool than initiation but it puts it in a weird place during laning phase. Also the range of the heal is painfully short. Basically need to be standing on top of champions in order to heal them so healing a tank during a team fight can get rough and make positioning rough.

How have people been building her? Not sure what to grab after standard support items.


Yo, when are you going to play ranked so you can carry me to gold?

Wait, OWB is in gold? I thought he was perennially stuck in silver/bronze?
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 01 2014 18:21 GMT
#673
So I took a break from League for awhile but before I stopped playing Renekton was super in meta and played competitively. Upon coming back he isn't played at all. Like, not even in solo queue. When I picked Renekton I even had people pissed at me and tell me he sucks. I was just curious as to why he fell out of meta? I looked and he didn't get changed at all so did the top lane pool just change to stuff that wasn't as good for him? I know Maokai/Alistar and the like got popular against them but I can't imagine Renekton has a terrible time against them I guess they just have more team fight presence than him.

I figured the rise of every top laner taking TP would've been a big contributing factor since Renekton really likes Ignite but I just wanted some clarification. Unless the wiki is missing nerfs or something that happened to him Renekton should still be a solo queue god at the very least.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 01 2014 18:23 GMT
#674
On October 02 2014 03:21 overt wrote:
So I took a break from League for awhile but before I stopped playing Renekton was super in meta and played competitively. Upon coming back he isn't played at all. Like, not even in solo queue. When I picked Renekton I even had people pissed at me and tell me he sucks. I was just curious as to why he fell out of meta? I looked and he didn't get changed at all so did the top lane pool just change to stuff that wasn't as good for him? I know Maokai/Alistar and the like got popular against them but I can't imagine Renekton has a terrible time against them I guess they just have more team fight presence than him.

I figured the rise of every top laner taking TP would've been a big contributing factor since Renekton really likes Ignite but I just wanted some clarification. Unless the wiki is missing nerfs or something that happened to him Renekton should still be a solo queue god at the very least.

He's still insanely strong in soloqueue, problem is game is all about lategame now, and Renekton's lategame in comparison is just not that great.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 18:26:36
October 01 2014 18:25 GMT
#675
On October 02 2014 03:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 03:08 ketchup wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I've played a couple games on the new Soraka and I think I like her overall. She seems more fun than the old Soraka and I really, really like Equinox. Although I wish it popped like a quarter second sooner or was a little wider because it's quite easy for the enemy to just walk out of it (seems like a better follow up tool than initiation but it puts it in a weird place during laning phase. Also the range of the heal is painfully short. Basically need to be standing on top of champions in order to heal them so healing a tank during a team fight can get rough and make positioning rough.

How have people been building her? Not sure what to grab after standard support items.


Yo, when are you going to play ranked so you can carry me to gold?

Wait, OWB is in gold? I thought he was perennially stuck in silver/bronze?


No idea. I just want more people to duo/struggle queue with lol
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 01 2014 18:30 GMT
#676
On October 02 2014 03:25 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 03:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 02 2014 03:08 ketchup wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I've played a couple games on the new Soraka and I think I like her overall. She seems more fun than the old Soraka and I really, really like Equinox. Although I wish it popped like a quarter second sooner or was a little wider because it's quite easy for the enemy to just walk out of it (seems like a better follow up tool than initiation but it puts it in a weird place during laning phase. Also the range of the heal is painfully short. Basically need to be standing on top of champions in order to heal them so healing a tank during a team fight can get rough and make positioning rough.

How have people been building her? Not sure what to grab after standard support items.


Yo, when are you going to play ranked so you can carry me to gold?

Wait, OWB is in gold? I thought he was perennially stuck in silver/bronze?


No idea. I just want more people to duo/struggle queue with lol

Less duo, and more struggle. huehuehue.

I dunno, when I got into Gold 1, I just randomly loss all motivation to play the game, despite getting into plat wouldn't be hard at all for me. Maybe I might join the struggle again to get into plat this weekend.
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 01 2014 18:34 GMT
#677
On October 02 2014 03:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 03:21 overt wrote:
So I took a break from League for awhile but before I stopped playing Renekton was super in meta and played competitively. Upon coming back he isn't played at all. Like, not even in solo queue. When I picked Renekton I even had people pissed at me and tell me he sucks. I was just curious as to why he fell out of meta? I looked and he didn't get changed at all so did the top lane pool just change to stuff that wasn't as good for him? I know Maokai/Alistar and the like got popular against them but I can't imagine Renekton has a terrible time against them I guess they just have more team fight presence than him.

I figured the rise of every top laner taking TP would've been a big contributing factor since Renekton really likes Ignite but I just wanted some clarification. Unless the wiki is missing nerfs or something that happened to him Renekton should still be a solo queue god at the very least.

He's still insanely strong in soloqueue, problem is game is all about lategame now, and Renekton's lategame in comparison is just not that great.


Oh that makes a lot of sense actually. If they make the game less late game focused in S5 he'll probably make a huge resurgence then. He still shits on people top lane at least. Thanks.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 01 2014 18:45 GMT
#678
On October 02 2014 03:34 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 03:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 02 2014 03:21 overt wrote:
So I took a break from League for awhile but before I stopped playing Renekton was super in meta and played competitively. Upon coming back he isn't played at all. Like, not even in solo queue. When I picked Renekton I even had people pissed at me and tell me he sucks. I was just curious as to why he fell out of meta? I looked and he didn't get changed at all so did the top lane pool just change to stuff that wasn't as good for him? I know Maokai/Alistar and the like got popular against them but I can't imagine Renekton has a terrible time against them I guess they just have more team fight presence than him.

I figured the rise of every top laner taking TP would've been a big contributing factor since Renekton really likes Ignite but I just wanted some clarification. Unless the wiki is missing nerfs or something that happened to him Renekton should still be a solo queue god at the very least.

He's still insanely strong in soloqueue, problem is game is all about lategame now, and Renekton's lategame in comparison is just not that great.


Oh that makes a lot of sense actually. If they make the game less late game focused in S5 he'll probably make a huge resurgence then. He still shits on people top lane at least. Thanks.

he got nerfed and his itemization got nerfed
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
October 01 2014 18:50 GMT
#679
more like TP got buffed which made laning a lot more easier + many top laners were capable of beating him/going even [ryze/lulu/gragas/mundo/irelia]. renekton did not get nerfed and at all and his itemization did not get touched either[sunfire dealing slightly less dmg was inconsequential because most top laners were ap based]
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 01 2014 18:53 GMT
#680
On October 02 2014 03:25 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 03:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 02 2014 03:08 ketchup wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
So I've played a couple games on the new Soraka and I think I like her overall. She seems more fun than the old Soraka and I really, really like Equinox. Although I wish it popped like a quarter second sooner or was a little wider because it's quite easy for the enemy to just walk out of it (seems like a better follow up tool than initiation but it puts it in a weird place during laning phase. Also the range of the heal is painfully short. Basically need to be standing on top of champions in order to heal them so healing a tank during a team fight can get rough and make positioning rough.

How have people been building her? Not sure what to grab after standard support items.


Yo, when are you going to play ranked so you can carry me to gold?

Wait, OWB is in gold? I thought he was perennially stuck in silver/bronze?


No idea. I just want more people to duo/struggle queue with lol

Haha I was stuck in Silver last season and have played exactly one ranked game this season. I'm just playing normals to try and shake off the rust but I'm down to duo/drag people down to my level.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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