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Since most people can't be bothered to do some complex draft shit, we're going to do things this way.
Pick
- One player from each role
- One wild card from any region
- One value player (all point gains x2, no loss on death), maximum cost 3
- One team
- One anti team player. If this player costs 5 or more, subtract the cost from your budget.
Total Points available - 50
SCORING STRUCTURE
Point multipliers
For players
- Kills = 1.5
- Deaths = -1
- Assists = 0.75
- GPM = 75gpm/pt
For teams (kills relative)
- Kills = 0.5
- Dragons, Towers = 2
- Baron = 4
- Time rating(Not yet implemented, but this may be included depending on feedback)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsFln-1yyTDfdGY1VlktWF9wQkFETThJYVk1Q2E5NkE&usp=sharing#gid=2
Point values are preliminary, more informed people tell me if I need to change costs. I will finalize costs hopefully on the 15th, and then drafting closes on the 17th whenever I go to sleep (~11:00pm EST). Format could also change,
Format(replace with your picks, spelled the same as in the spreadsheet please)
TOP,JUNGLE,MID,ADC,SUP,WC,VAL,TEAM,ANTI
Tell me if anything in the spreadsheet looks broken, although I think everything is linked up correctly now.
I'll be looking for somebody else(maybe multiple) to help maintain the spreadsheet. I have work and games start at 5:00am for me. I can't guarantee that I'll be able to update the spreadsheet at any point until I get off work even if I can watch the games.
Updating the spreadsheet once all initial data has been entered should only involve filling in Kills, Deaths, Assists Gold and Team: Turrets, Dragons and Barons, and copying down if you need more games. If you think you can do that without blowing things up, let me know.
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On September 15 2014 01:44 krndandaman wrote:
Looks good, but what are the point values for kills,deaths,assists, etc.?
Not at home ATM so I can't check to confirm.
For now, 1.5 per kill, -1 for death, 0.75 for assist, 0.01 per cs(GPM maybe better?)
Team is going to be 0.5 per kill difference, 1.5 per turret, 2 per drag and 4 per baron. I will probably increase the cost of the most favoured teams due to the rather high expected value from a 6+ turret 3+ drag 10+ kill and 1-2 baron advantage they will likely have. Feeder teams are likely to be low cost, free or even negative.
Value players will not lose points on death. This now changes things to who you think can make the most plays, without regard for how badly they are getting stomped.
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Since points aren't finalized, there's no point in drafting our teams yet, right?
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On September 15 2014 02:39 seRapH wrote:
Since points aren't finalized, there's no point in drafting our teams yet, right?
At the moment, nothing is finalized. I'll get home in a couple hours and make some final changes to costs and format, and then people can start drafting.
That's not to say you shouldn't look over the costs though, because I'm hoping to not have outrageously undercost or overly expensive picks.
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The biggest problem i have with these formats is that they give huge value to teams that have long games or series. It doesn't reward people who pick teams that are good at attaining early leads and consistently closing them out.
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On September 15 2014 04:05 seRapH wrote:
The biggest problem i have with these formats is that they give huge value to teams that have long games or series. It doesn't reward people who pick teams that are good at attaining early leads and consistently closing them out.
Would you prefer an extra column that gives points based upon time used to attain a win? Something like 15 points@20m, losing 0.5 per minute down to 0 at 50? I would probably also give losing team points for how long a game lasted, maybe like 0.25 per minute after 30, max 7.5?
Also feel free to draft away people. Costs have been finalized. It is your responsibility to ensure that your team meets cost requirements. I'll be doing a check later, but for now I'm done with adjusting stuff. Read OP for rules on point structure.
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Save, Watch, Westdoor, Bebe, Gorilla, Jay, Winds, Najin White Shield, XiaoWeiXiao
12+12+3+5+11+3+3+13-12=50
50p decreasing with game time is crude, but it might work. I don't like giving losing teams credit for stalling, it makes surrenders hurt a lot.
Ultimately its still up to participants to play around the format. Is this just for groups or the whole tournament?
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GoGoing , Watch , WestDoor , Bebe , Mata , Watch , imp , AHQ E-Sports Club , Hai
9+12+3+5+12+12+15-9-12=49
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On September 15 2014 06:04 seRapH wrote:
Save, Watch, Westdoor, Bebe, Gorilla, Jay, Winds, Najin White Shield, XiaoWeiXiao
12+12+3+5+11+3+3+13-12=50
50p decreasing with game time is crude, but it might work. I don't like giving losing teams credit for stalling, it makes surrenders hurt a lot.
Ultimately its still up to participants to play around the format. Is this just for groups or the whole tournament?
Just for groups. I'll do another one for bracket stage because otherwise you couldn't draft optimally for this stage.
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On September 15 2014 09:08 krndandaman wrote:
^value player maximum cost is 3
TOP,JUNGLE,MID,ADC,SUP,WC,VAL,TEAM,ANTI
Soaz, Spirit, Cool, Rekkles, Yellowstar, Winds, Najin White Shield, XiaoWeiXiao
7+12+11+9+7+3+13-12 = 50
Funny you should mention value player when you didn't draft one 
Or you didn't draft WC, one or the other.
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oh i didnt read that properly.. will change it 
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I knew I under/overcosted some stuff =(. You have an idea for how much each player should cost in a vacuum, but then you forget to look at who they're playing against.
Oh well, too late to change costs now that people are actively drafting.
Pretty happy with the format I made up overall though.
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Anyways, here's my team(for now)
Gogoing,Amazing,xPeke,Namei,nRated,Jay,HolyPhoenix,Alliance,XiaoWeiXiao
9+8+9+14+3+3+5+11-12 = 50
You can change your team up until I fall asleep on 17th, and I'll give fair warning when I go through adding teams to my list.
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MAH TEAM
TOP,JUNGLE,MID,ADC,SUP,WC,VAL,TEAM,ANTI
Prydz, Cyanide, Cool, Vasili, Mor, XiaoWeiXiao, Greentea, LMQ, Bjergsen
1+8+11+11+9+12+1+7-10=50
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
My team !
TOP JUNGLE MID ADC SUPPORT WC VAL TEAM ANTI
Achie, Meteos, PawN, GarnetDevil, Mor, Morning, Bebe, Samsung Blue, Looper
3 + 9 + 15 + 3 + 9 + 5 + 5 + 14 - 13 = 50
Edit : K, should be fine.
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Let's give this a shot:
TOP JUNGLE MID ADC SUPPORT WC VAL TEAM ANTI
Dyrus Dandy Cool Rekkles NRated Soaz Winds Fnatic Dade
7+14+11+9+5+7+3+8-14 = 50
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Achie, Meteos, PawN, UZI, GreenTea, GarnetDevil, WInds, SH Royal Club, fredy122
3+9+15+11+1+3+3+10-5 =50
Editted before first game starts yoloswag
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United States23455 Posts
Save = 12
Dandy = 14
Dade = 14
Deft = 14
Zero = 8
GreenTea = 1
Team: AHQ E-Sports (-9)
Anti: San (-7)
Value: Winds = 3
Total: 50
Unbeatable.
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On September 16 2014 02:38 Fionn wrote:
Save = 12
Dandy = 14
Dade = 14
Deft = 14
Zero = 8
Team: AHQ E-Sports (-9)
Anti: San (-7)
Value: Winds = 3
Total: 49
Unbeatable.
Glad to see my plan of trying to add a reason to pick likely feeder teams has claimed its first victim.
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He might change it once he realizes he's missing a wildcard player
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Dyrus,Meteos,Cool,Bebe,Fzzf,Lustboy,Winds,Cloud9,DaDa777
TOP - Dyrus (7)
JUNGLE - Meteos (9)
MID - Cool (11)
ADC - Bebe (5)
SUP - Fzzf (10)
WC - Lustboy (6)
VAL - Winds (3)
TEAM - Cloud9 (9)
ANTI - DaDa777 (-10)
Total 50
Maybe a bit risky, but trying for it anyways.
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Australia18228 Posts
Looper, DanDy, Ggoong, imp, Lustboy, Bebe, Winds, Kabum E-sports, Amazing
13+14+14+15+6+5+3-13-8=49
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Wickd,Shook,Jesiz,Rekkles,Lustboy,Naz,Westdoor,Samsung White, Dade
10+10+8+9+6+2+3+16-14=50
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Top: Dyrus (7 points)
Jungle: Amazing (8 points)
Middle: Morning (5 points)
AD Carry: WildTurtle (9 points)
Support: Lustboy (6 points)
Wildcard: Westdoor (3 points)
Value player: Winds (3 points)
Team: TSM (8 points)
Anti-team player: Touch (1 point)
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Soaz,Amazing,Bjergsen,Rekkles,Lustboy,xPeke,Westdoor,Fnatic,Insec
7+8+10+9+6+9+3+8-10=50
Bet on close games between TSM and Fnatic in their groups and SHRC falling apart
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
TOP JUNGLE MID ADC SUP WC VAL TEAM ANTI
Achie Winds Bjergsen Namei Lustboy Wildturtle Garnetdevil NJWS Corn
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TOP,JUNGLE,MID,ADC,SUP,WC,VAL,TEAM,ANTI
Looper,Meteos,Westdoor,HolyPheonix,Heart,Lustboy,WInds,Taipei Assassins,Jay
Still don't 100% understand the anti player but ok
Edited for u bby
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On September 17 2014 20:20 miicah wrote:
TOP,JUNGLE,MID,ADC,SUP,WC,VAL,TEAM,ANTI
Looper(13),Meteos(9),Westdoor(3),HolyPheonix(3),Heart(11),Lustboy(6),WInds(3),Taipei Assassins(5),Jay(-3)
Still don't 100% understand the anti player but ok
Anti is simply negative points for each of the categories, so you lose points if they do good and gain if they do bad.
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Aight, let's do this:
TOP, JUNGLE, MID, ADC, SUP, WC, VAL, TEAM, ANTI
Balls, LoveLing, Froggen, Bebe, Lustboy, Meteos, Winds, TPA, NoName
8 + 10 + 13 + 5 + 6 + 9 + 3 + 5 - 9 = 50
Basically betting heavily on TPA going 1st or 2nd in groups.
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I'd like to change my team a little bit to:
Achie, Meteos, PawN, UZI, GreenTea, GarnetDevil, WInds, SH Royal Club, Svenskeren
3+9+15+11+1+3+3+10-6 =49
gonna edit my original post too :3
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TOP ,JUNGLE ,MID, ADC, SUP , WC, VAL, TEAM ,ANTI
Save, Winds, Dade, Deft, Zero, GarnetDevil, Westdoor, TPA, XiaoWeiXiao
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Are we going to remove the option for Svenskeren as the ANTI? kinda cheap imo
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In light of the extenuating circumstances regarding SK, cost changes may need to happen.
Poll: Change costs of SKYes (4) 67% No (2) 33% 6 total votes Your vote: Change costs of SK (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
If I change it, all SK players go down by 1 cost, Sven goes down by 3, and the team goes down by 5
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Just disallow sven from being picked as the anti player. Especially because no one had sven in the anti-team before the news anyways.
I mean we still don't know if Morning is playing or if Chawy will be playing for TPA.
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On September 18 2014 05:40 krndandaman wrote:
just change the value. make svenskeren slot both gilius/svenskeren.
This was always going to be the case. The trouble is that the sub slot also happens to drag down the rest of the team, which is why if I lower value, I'm just going to apply it to all of SK.
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Okay costs for svenskeren/SK are now adjusted. You'll have until I wake up tomorrow morning to change picks provided your edit time is before the world's start.
ALSO THE FUCKING FORMAT THING IN THE OP IS THERE FOR A REASON PEOPLE. I HAVE TO FILL IT OUT BY HAND OR FIX FORMATTING IF YOU DO THINGS LIKE SPACE DELIMITATION(Hello Najin White Shield) OR FUNNY FORMATTING OR SPELL THINGS WRONG.
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On September 18 2014 07:30 Amui wrote:
Okay costs for svenskeren/SK are now adjusted. You'll have until I wake up tomorrow morning to change picks provided your edit time is before the world's start.
ALSO THE FUCKING FORMAT THING IN THE OP IS THERE FOR A REASON PEOPLE. I HAVE TO FILL IT OUT BY HAND OR FIX FORMATTING IF YOU DO THINGS LIKE SPACE DELIMITATION(Hello Najin White Shield) OR FUNNY FORMATTING OR SPELL THINGS WRONG.
Oops. Sorry, I definitely misread that format part.
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changing my team since i didn't realize 99% of my picks were in the same group D:
TOP,JUNGLE,MID,ADC,SUP,WC,VAL,TEAM,ANTI
GoGoing, LoveLing, Cool, Rekkles, LustBoy, Dyrus, GreenTea, LMQ, FZZF
9+10+11+9+6+7+1+7-10=50
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Going with white or bust.
Looper,Dandy,Pawn,Imp,Prydz,Dyrus,GarnetDevil,AHQ E-Sports Club,Mor
13+14+15+15+1+7+3-9-9 = 50
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Looper will be good value I'm sure, went with him as well. Unless we get another #freehomme situation D:
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top: Dyrus
jungle: Dandy
mid: Xpeke
ADC: Imp
Support: dans
WC: HolyPhoenix
Value: Westdoor
Team: TSM
Anti: Dade
Dyrus, Dandy, Xpeke, Imp, dans, HolyPhoenix, Westdoor, TSM, Dade
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On September 18 2014 14:46 miicah wrote:
Looper will be good value I'm sure, went with him as well. Unless we get another #freehomme situation D:
Not sure how 13 point player is "good value". The best value player here really is Winds, and possibly lustboy. Even Nyph cost 8 points while Lustboy was at 6. Basically all of TSM was fairly undervalued considering their group is probably the easiest.
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Finally got back from a long, long day.
Gonna start updating now.
Gold(with decimal points) is in a different place than all other data zzzzz
Also I don't have links to all match histories and I'm not about to rewatch everything right now. Some data may be missing until tomorrow.
Also there are a few people with fucked up teams who will be removed shortly. Not my responsibility to ensure you had a legitimate team(eg. 2x watch and value imp....)
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lol.gamepedia.com might have all the info you need.
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On September 19 2014 12:19 miicah wrote:
lol.gamepedia.com might have all the info you need.
To get objective data I either have to watch the whole vod, or get the match history page. Found 2, but the rest aren't on reddit. I'll fill the rest in once I get data, but for now it's done.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Morning sucked balls for me in first day :\ Pretty bad score but I'm still waiting for LMQ/C9 to earn my points.
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Why isn't my team in participants
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On September 19 2014 20:32 miicah wrote:Why isn't my team in participants
Probably because I missed it. I'll add it later when I have time. Can't do it from phone or work ATM.
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in my note it says missing mid laner
i have xpeke on my team?
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On September 19 2014 23:31 Bill Murray wrote:
in my note it says missing mid laner
i have xpeke on my team?
Fixed. Was a formatting thing that I fixed and then forgot to remove note.
Also updated for day 2. I can do towers pretty quickly for teams, but drag/baron will take a while.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Why is my name the only to be appearing on the right side? :D
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Because excel (and I guess Google docs too) aligns numbers to the right
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Standings have been updated for day 3&4
Been real busy the last few days.
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Seems like im #4th so far with Meteos, Mor and Samsung Blue earning me more points in next couple of days. Not bad. Picking Morning was a pretty bad idea, meh.
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Holy crap, that westdoor value pick O__O
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
The formula for participant total on the spreadsheet is wrong, currently you are subtracting team total and adding the anti total
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On September 23 2014 23:17 3 Lions wrote:
The formula for participant total on the spreadsheet is wrong, currently you are subtracting team total and adding the anti total
fixed.
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Singapore Day 1 updated. Too tired to do day 2. I'll update it during the weekend.
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On September 29 2014 07:30 krndandaman wrote:
is this updated? is kitaman27 the winner?
nope. Been lazy and tired and stuff. Should be done by tomorrow morning.
EDIT: Fuck it I'll do it now. Come back in 20 minutes
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Okay group stage done.
Grats to kitaman for picking well
Shame on me for failing at my own fantasy.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
I figured AHQ would go 2-4 at worst, which was comparable to teams like Fanatic, LMQ, OMG, or SK, which were in the 7-11 point range rather than the 1-3 range, which allowed me to grab the four Samsung W players. I did get pretty lucky with the Edward upset though.
Thanks for putting this together!
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Not bad for me, picking Looper for anti was retarded idea :D
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EPT
