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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2014 19:28 GMT
#981
On September 17 2014 04:19 SCC-Faust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 04:16 Ketara wrote:
Nashors seems good.

I don't notice mana problems past level 7 or so, and Nashors is the most damage of the CDR items.


But yes, he appears to have weird bugs where you press your buttons and they go on cooldown and nothing happens.


Also holy shit E start Yasuo just WRECKS him. Just all in at level 1, nothing Azir can do.


Does Nashor damage apply to his soldiers? Thought spotlight said certain things don't like lich bane, red buff, etc.

it doesn't, but the AS + AP + CDR are still stats he would like.
liftlift > tsm
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 19:30:26
September 16 2014 19:29 GMT
#982
nashor passive doesnt apply.
But nashor is 1 item and he goes from incredibly clunky to enjoyable.


And his skills dont fucking work like 10% of the time, and his ult sometimes doesnt knock people back.
Riot is huge and doesnt do fucking anything and they still cant test champions before release properly.

And sometimes i feel like his soldiers attack random shit when they spawn, but that might be my fault.
He is also irritating because when you cast something out of range, he will cast it anyways as if its a cone AE.


His skills are fun, but all the bugs and shit are irritating.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 16 2014 19:31 GMT
#983
It's easier to control the soldiers if you A+move than if you right click, I think.

But yeah, super bugado. Regularly when I'm trying to E to a soldier I have to click it two or three times, and a couple times it's gone on cooldown but not cast at all or gone to the wrong soldier.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 16 2014 19:38 GMT
#984
Rofl he just got disabled to fix bugs.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 16 2014 19:40 GMT
#985
also the soldiers have a higher damage range than they can attack.

No idea if intentional
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 19:49:01
September 16 2014 19:42 GMT
#986
I never saw people just pick Thresh when they see Olaf, wait for him to choose a target while walking away, then Lantern the targeted squishy out.
That's so intuitive though.

On September 17 2014 02:24 Ketara wrote:
2 - His controls seem really clunky/buggy. Multiple times I used Q but it didn't show going on cooldown/show the cooldown. When you W if you click outside his range he'll cast it at max range in that direction rather than walking to the spot and placing it, which multiple times made me actually miss a turret with it and cast a useless sand soldier next to the turret instead. Once I used E and it moved me to the wrong sand soldier, like totally in the opposite direction of where I was clicking.

Prob won't change. It used to work that way with J4 but it easily fucked up your EQ combos so instead he now casts at max range when you target out of range, and it was a change massively asked for.


That Shurima cinematic was so meh. Welp. Both content and the graphics.
+ Show Spoiler +
So what? Blood from one of his descendants on the sand is enough? Has Sivir the mercenary never bled? Her ancestors never bled on the sand either, for "millenia"?
And when the ritual is supposed to recreate the city, proportions are pretty badly done when the sun sends its rays down then lights the exit as Sivir walks to Azir, with the huge chasm beneath them right after they appear to be very close to the surface.
But mostly "plot devices! McGuffins!" all abound. Yeah, sure, make it pretty. But if the storytelling is bad it won't save much.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
September 16 2014 19:44 GMT
#987
On September 17 2014 04:29 LaNague wrote:


And sometimes i feel like his soldiers attack random shit when they spawn, but that might be my fault.
He is also irritating because when you cast something out of range, he will cast it anyways as if its a cone AE.

.

both those things stood out to me also. the actual cast range on w is so short. took me a bit to get used to it.

conceptually, i see the point of his ult is to make plays. and thats cool.

but i would have preferred they went a different direction and made his ult either make his soldiers stronger or create a super soldier or something.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 19:54:37
September 16 2014 19:53 GMT
#988
On September 17 2014 04:40 LaNague wrote:
also the soldiers have a higher damage range than they can attack.

No idea if intentional


If by that you mean that the actual line AoE is larger than the circle that shows how far you can attack things, yes, that is intentional.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
September 16 2014 19:57 GMT
#989
On September 17 2014 04:38 Ketara wrote:
Rofl he just got disabled to fix bugs.


Didn't they say that he had bugs a few days ago and were going to wait a bit before releasing him? Guess they thought they'd fixed them all and released him anyway.

On September 17 2014 03:45 Chrispy wrote:
That Shurima video is gorgeous. Hot diggity damn,


Yeah, it look nice.

+ Show Spoiler +
And to the person who is complaining about why Sivir was able to revive Azir and not one of her past descendents, do you think her ancestors were in the room where Xerath did his ritual with Azir, and were bleeding on what looked to be a ritual circle?

So the updated Shurima now sounds like it'll be how Riot can handwave away the IoW, because Azir basically says, "Shurima's back, you have 4 world powers to deal with now (the others being Demacia, Noxus and Ionia), agree to our demands otherwise we just wreck your shit."
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 16 2014 20:00 GMT
#990
On September 17 2014 04:53 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 04:40 LaNague wrote:
also the soldiers have a higher damage range than they can attack.

No idea if intentional


If by that you mean that the actual line AoE is larger than the circle that shows how far you can attack things, yes, that is intentional.


yes its what i meant, its just a bit unintuitional why the soldiers would not attack up to their max damage range.


This reminds of of another of those riot words that they used a lot, burden of knowledge i think was it?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 16 2014 20:05 GMT
#991
Na, just think of it as Lucian's Q: you target a range, but the attack pierces farther.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 20:07:07
September 16 2014 20:06 GMT
#992
Same principle as Lucian Q....

Akali'd
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
September 16 2014 20:13 GMT
#993
On September 17 2014 04:12 Vaporized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 03:53 Ketara wrote:
I'm wondering what other peoples Azir experiences are so far?

3 games now and in every game he's just feeling incredibly buggy. You press buttons and your skills just don't happen or go in the wrong direction etc.

i noticed the same thing. like 1 in 10 skill activations wont work correctly. I can't be certain because i have been getting random lag spikes the last few days, so part of the problem could be lag distorting what is actually happening.

i only tried one build, morello's, lucidity, 5% cdr from masteries. after that core, his damage, and general potential for what he could do seemed strong.

what have people who started with nashor's thought?



I've had this issue as well ever since the ascension patch, occasionally I'll try to use an ability and it wont go off at all until I realize it bugged out and do it again. Probably 3-4 times a game on average.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 16 2014 20:15 GMT
#994
It's been well before the Ascension patch for me, I notice it most with Irelia because I don't mash W (since it's not really visible by itself, esp. in the middle of a fight with other sounds to cover its activation) and then I realise my target still has 200 HP when I get collapsed on and that W is off cd. Doesn't happen every game but still very regularly, and it was already the case around 2 months ago when I started playing less.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 16 2014 20:31 GMT
#995
On September 17 2014 05:15 Alaric wrote:
It's been well before the Ascension patch for me, I notice it most with Irelia because I don't mash W (since it's not really visible by itself, esp. in the middle of a fight with other sounds to cover its activation) and then I realise my target still has 200 HP when I get collapsed on and that W is off cd. Doesn't happen every game but still very regularly, and it was already the case around 2 months ago when I started playing less.


I thought this was just me being dumb but now that you mention it it's happened a lot with Irelia for me. I go in blow everything and start trading only to realize afterward the W didn't activate.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 16 2014 20:36 GMT
#996
Seems like they disabled Azir because his ult could disable ennemy turrets LOL
Guess they didn't see that in testing haha
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 16 2014 21:03 GMT
#997
On September 17 2014 05:00 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 04:53 phyvo wrote:
On September 17 2014 04:40 LaNague wrote:
also the soldiers have a higher damage range than they can attack.

No idea if intentional


If by that you mean that the actual line AoE is larger than the circle that shows how far you can attack things, yes, that is intentional.


yes its what i meant, its just a bit unintuitional why the soldiers would not attack up to their max damage range.


This reminds of of another of those riot words that they used a lot, burden of knowledge i think was it?


Phreak demonstrates it pretty clearly in his video. If Phreak can make puns while talking bout it, the burden is not that high.
Freeeeeeedom
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 21:53:16
September 16 2014 21:26 GMT
#998
Wow EUW just died on me. I'm first pick, hear the sound, "retrieving data from server" with the full background pitch black.

Apparently it was punctual, didn't have trouble after restarting the game. Well, I have an issue, but listening to your 2nd pick and not banning Trist when you're purple side isn't client-related, I'm just a dumbass.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 16 2014 21:41 GMT
#999
On September 17 2014 02:28 UmberBane wrote:
http://content.azubu.tv/cjentusblaze/#

I have to say, Azubu are really delivering some quality to get people to their site. It's strange how everyone knows Azubu, everyone kinda knows that it's pretty good now, but still nobody watches it (including myself). Wonder if they'll ever get the numbers they want to.

It's because Azubu's interface for finding streams sucks ass. Twitch's League streams section gives me rows of 5 and sorted by highest watchers. Azubu's highlights 5 streams at the top(4 of which are offline), and then gives me rows of 3 including offline.

The kicker? The dropdown menu doesn't even let me filter to just live streams.

On September 17 2014 04:57 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 04:38 Ketara wrote:
Rofl he just got disabled to fix bugs.


Didn't they say that he had bugs a few days ago and were going to wait a bit before releasing him? Guess they thought they'd fixed them all and released him anyway.

Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 03:45 Chrispy wrote:
That Shurima video is gorgeous. Hot diggity damn,


Yeah, it look nice.

+ Show Spoiler +
And to the person who is complaining about why Sivir was able to revive Azir and not one of her past descendents, do you think her ancestors were in the room where Xerath did his ritual with Azir, and were bleeding on what looked to be a ritual circle?

So the updated Shurima now sounds like it'll be how Riot can handwave away the IoW, because Azir basically says, "Shurima's back, you have 4 world powers to deal with now (the others being Demacia, Noxus and Ionia), agree to our demands otherwise we just wreck your shit."

Ionia a world power, that's a good one.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 16 2014 21:44 GMT
#1000
Yea if you just pop in to Azubu to see what's on it's terrible but if you get direct links to what's showing than it's really good. Not sure why they haven't worked on their interface more.
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