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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 02:49:40
September 17 2014 02:49 GMT
#1021
On September 17 2014 11:39 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:48 zodde wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:45 Alaric wrote:
Actually he's been the case for as long as I can remember (read 1 year+) I just don't know why it happens and is pretty irregular. Can't be something like "check if it's dead on arrival" because it happens with regular autos on several champs, it's just Irelia's Q has it happening even more often (plus the reset part makes it obvious).


Yeah Irelia Q is fucking strange sometimes. You can get gold and cs without getting the reset, and you can get the reset without getting the gold or cs.

It's really old too, atleast since s2.


Didn't they say it had something to do with on-hit effects? Like, if the extra dmg from sheen was the reason the minion died (because AD + Q didn't add up to enough) it wouldn't reset?

Q doesn't apply on-hit effects.

Also why pictures of random girls sporting massive cleavage in GD?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 17 2014 02:52 GMT
#1022
On September 17 2014 11:32 iCanada wrote:
FYI, Poppy sucks in ascension.

Cooldowns too long, everyones does damages so no one to ult.



http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/09/ascension-statistics.html

third highest win rate
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
September 17 2014 02:52 GMT
#1023
On September 17 2014 11:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:39 Phunkapotamus wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:48 zodde wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:45 Alaric wrote:
Actually he's been the case for as long as I can remember (read 1 year+) I just don't know why it happens and is pretty irregular. Can't be something like "check if it's dead on arrival" because it happens with regular autos on several champs, it's just Irelia's Q has it happening even more often (plus the reset part makes it obvious).


Yeah Irelia Q is fucking strange sometimes. You can get gold and cs without getting the reset, and you can get the reset without getting the gold or cs.

It's really old too, atleast since s2.


Didn't they say it had something to do with on-hit effects? Like, if the extra dmg from sheen was the reason the minion died (because AD + Q didn't add up to enough) it wouldn't reset?

Q doesn't apply on-hit effects.

Also why pictures of random girls sporting massive cleavage in GD?


Uh....

Active: Irelia dashes forward to strike her target, dealing physical damage and applying on-hit effects. If it kills the target, Bladesurge's cooldown refreshes and refunds 35 mana.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 02:59:24
September 17 2014 02:55 GMT
#1024
On September 17 2014 11:52 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:32 iCanada wrote:
FYI, Poppy sucks in ascension.

Cooldowns too long, everyones does damages so no one to ult.



http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/09/ascension-statistics.html

third highest win rate


FYI, I'm awful at Poppy.

:D

EDIT: O.o how is Kha so bad at Ascension. Must be a bunch of crappy kha players or something.. lol.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 17 2014 03:09 GMT
#1025
On September 17 2014 11:55 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:52 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:32 iCanada wrote:
FYI, Poppy sucks in ascension.

Cooldowns too long, everyones does damages so no one to ult.



http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/09/ascension-statistics.html

third highest win rate


FYI, I'm awful at Poppy.

:D

EDIT: O.o how is Kha so bad at Ascension. Must be a bunch of crappy kha players or something.. lol.

Current Kha is best as a poke-a-thon. Doesn't work all that well outside of being annoying in Ascension.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 17 2014 03:15 GMT
#1026
On September 17 2014 11:52 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:32 iCanada wrote:
FYI, Poppy sucks in ascension.

Cooldowns too long, everyones does damages so no one to ult.



http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/09/ascension-statistics.html

third highest win rate

Any idea for a quick heuristic on adjusting winrates for % popularity? Intuition says high popularity champions will trend closer to the mean even if the champ is imbaimbaimba.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 03:19:21
September 17 2014 03:18 GMT
#1027
On September 17 2014 12:09 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:55 iCanada wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:52 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:32 iCanada wrote:
FYI, Poppy sucks in ascension.

Cooldowns too long, everyones does damages so no one to ult.



http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/09/ascension-statistics.html

third highest win rate


FYI, I'm awful at Poppy.

:D

EDIT: O.o how is Kha so bad at Ascension. Must be a bunch of crappy kha players or something.. lol.

Current Kha is best as a poke-a-thon. Doesn't work all that well outside of being annoying in Ascension.


Yeah, the other team literally can't cap an objective while Kha can lololol at them for hours. Just build hella tanky you are uncatchable and they can't ever cap anything.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 17 2014 03:23 GMT
#1028
--- Nuked ---
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 03:33:50
September 17 2014 03:30 GMT
#1029
On September 17 2014 11:52 Thermia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:39 Phunkapotamus wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:48 zodde wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:45 Alaric wrote:
Actually he's been the case for as long as I can remember (read 1 year+) I just don't know why it happens and is pretty irregular. Can't be something like "check if it's dead on arrival" because it happens with regular autos on several champs, it's just Irelia's Q has it happening even more often (plus the reset part makes it obvious).


Yeah Irelia Q is fucking strange sometimes. You can get gold and cs without getting the reset, and you can get the reset without getting the gold or cs.

It's really old too, atleast since s2.


Didn't they say it had something to do with on-hit effects? Like, if the extra dmg from sheen was the reason the minion died (because AD + Q didn't add up to enough) it wouldn't reset?

Q doesn't apply on-hit effects.

Also why pictures of random girls sporting massive cleavage in GD?


Uh....

Active: Irelia dashes forward to strike her target, dealing physical damage and applying on-hit effects. If it kills the target, Bladesurge's cooldown refreshes and refunds 35 mana.

mb

I've had Yi's do the same thing as that hecarim mentioned earlier. I still think capping points is too rewarding. Kills are like what? 1 pt? Taking an enemy cap is +3 points for you now and -3 points the enemy team should have gotten later which is a 6 point swing.

It's only 5 points for an ascended form.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 17 2014 03:38 GMT
#1030
On September 17 2014 12:15 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:52 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:32 iCanada wrote:
FYI, Poppy sucks in ascension.

Cooldowns too long, everyones does damages so no one to ult.



http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/09/ascension-statistics.html

third highest win rate

Any idea for a quick heuristic on adjusting winrates for % popularity? Intuition says high popularity champions will trend closer to the mean even if the champ is imbaimbaimba.


What is this "mean" you are talking about anyway. If you are talking about 50%, then no. Mirror match ups are not included in the calculation for win rate.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 17 2014 03:55 GMT
#1031
I've played ascension a stupid amount of times now:

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA/39467469?map=8

I've even resorted to spamming teemo in order to try and get the stupid icon - 6 straight wins so far with satan - and haven't gotten it.

The lack of a snowball mechanic and the emphasis on a 2v2/2v3 +1 split is too good to secure enough control to both cap and secure xerath without strong zone control from fizz/teemo or other strong picks.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 17 2014 03:56 GMT
#1032
On September 17 2014 12:30 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:52 Thermia wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:49 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:39 Phunkapotamus wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:48 zodde wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:45 Alaric wrote:
Actually he's been the case for as long as I can remember (read 1 year+) I just don't know why it happens and is pretty irregular. Can't be something like "check if it's dead on arrival" because it happens with regular autos on several champs, it's just Irelia's Q has it happening even more often (plus the reset part makes it obvious).


Yeah Irelia Q is fucking strange sometimes. You can get gold and cs without getting the reset, and you can get the reset without getting the gold or cs.

It's really old too, atleast since s2.


Didn't they say it had something to do with on-hit effects? Like, if the extra dmg from sheen was the reason the minion died (because AD + Q didn't add up to enough) it wouldn't reset?

Q doesn't apply on-hit effects.

Also why pictures of random girls sporting massive cleavage in GD?


Uh....

Active: Irelia dashes forward to strike her target, dealing physical damage and applying on-hit effects. If it kills the target, Bladesurge's cooldown refreshes and refunds 35 mana.

mb

I've had Yi's do the same thing as that hecarim mentioned earlier. I still think capping points is too rewarding. Kills are like what? 1 pt? Taking an enemy cap is +3 points for you now and -3 points the enemy team should have gotten later which is a 6 point swing.

It's only 5 points for an ascended form.


Thats why I dont understand Kha's winrate being so low. You can build full singed and then you get to dash hella far every 5 seconds while trololol poking a whole team so they can't cap. Its pretty obnoxious if played right.

I think people are too "Hurrdurr need to be assassin and kill things". But you can pretty much make it so they pretty much can't cap anything while your team runs around and caps everything.

All they can really do is try to force the ascended, but its much easier to get the ascended as a team trying to steal than the team trying secure it, even if you built literally no damage items on Kha you are still a huge threat to steal it with your stealth, and then they are back to square one; this Kha wont get off their back so they can cap shit, they can't catch him, and when they do he is ridiculously tanky. Meanwhile you have like Rammus and Hecarim running around and lolol capping the other points on the map.

Over like 15 games with Kha I've lost like 1 of them. I dont get why he doesn't win more. 48% seems hella low to me.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 04:16:20
September 17 2014 04:13 GMT
#1033
On September 17 2014 12:18 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 12:09 Gahlo wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:55 iCanada wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:52 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 17 2014 11:32 iCanada wrote:
FYI, Poppy sucks in ascension.

Cooldowns too long, everyones does damages so no one to ult.



http://sufficientblogging.blogspot.ca/2014/09/ascension-statistics.html

third highest win rate


FYI, I'm awful at Poppy.

:D

EDIT: O.o how is Kha so bad at Ascension. Must be a bunch of crappy kha players or something.. lol.

Current Kha is best as a poke-a-thon. Doesn't work all that well outside of being annoying in Ascension.


Yeah, the other team literally can't cap an objective while Kha can lololol at them for hours. Just build hella tanky you are uncatchable and they can't ever cap anything.

I did one game as Ashe and my friend was Skarner. They couldn't cap and weren't allowed to kill me without feeding double value kills to shiny Skorupi.

4 sec Volley cooldown real terror on capping.

People still typing in OGNKacackle in the Azubu stream. So good.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 17 2014 04:19 GMT
#1034
Calitrlolz delayed pharm school for 1 year. OOOOOOO YEAAAAAH. LCS FINALLY EXCITING.
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 17 2014 04:24 GMT
#1035
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 17 2014 04:26 GMT
#1036
On September 17 2014 13:24 krndandaman wrote:
you know you're pretty deserving of a pro when you manage to be the top player on a team to make it into the LCS while in grad school. talk about busy

He just started, so he's only been insanely busy the past month.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 17 2014 04:50 GMT
#1037
I love calitrolz. Most fun top laner since early curse voyboy.
Freeeeeeedom
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 04:55:35
September 17 2014 04:53 GMT
#1038
I was worried for team 8 without Cali. I still don't think they'll be top 4, but I wouldn't have put it passed them to go 0 - 28 without him. And he's just pretty fun to watch.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 17 2014 05:20 GMT
#1039
I dont like him on the team. Especially when.he basically can.only play 1 year.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 17 2014 05:26 GMT
#1040
On September 17 2014 14:20 Sufficiency wrote:
I dont like him on the team. Especially when.he basically can.only play 1 year.

Dislike the best player on the with the most wide champ pool in a role that has a narrow champ pool? he's literally NA save.
liftlift > tsm
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