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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 10 2014 06:35 GMT
#61
Bly pls why you gotta be so rude

CLG is an institution. I'm glad they're hanging around to be free wins for TSM next split.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 10 2014 06:53 GMT
#62
On September 10 2014 15:32 zulu_nation8 wrote:
clg got so lucky lmao, disband already

imo clg was better team, individually and team wise, but it was still a pitiful as fuck display from them today. + Show Spoiler +

anything short of a 3-0 from clg just due to skill difference would be a disappointment, the fact they had to fight from a 2-0 deficit was a fucking embarrassing. Keane definitely deserves a spot in LCS though, that guy is fucking mad talented.
liftlift > tsm
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
September 10 2014 06:56 GMT
#63
Maybe a silly question but is the path only for EU tonight and not NA?
cause NA server status doesn't list it, while EU does.
http://status.leagueoflegends.com/#na
http://status.leagueoflegends.com/#euw
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 10 2014 06:56 GMT
#64
just seemed like CA was much better prepared and no one on CLG knew what they were doing. This is like impactful's 3rd time losing at promotion offlines.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 10 2014 06:58 GMT
#65
Impactful definitely seemed outclassed by Doublelift.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 10 2014 07:01 GMT
#66
Also Soraka's E is like DotA2 Disruptor's ulti.
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droserin
Profile Joined September 2014
127 Posts
September 10 2014 07:09 GMT
#67
I played 5 games of Soraka on the PBE. It is impossible to land the root on E unless your target is afk or already cced. In postgame stats, I usually healed more than most champions dealt to other champions.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 07:20:01
September 10 2014 07:19 GMT
#68
Just realized NiP isn't in the relegation matches. Can someone tell me what happened? Last I checked they were in a kush coma reking everyone. I stopped paying attention to League for a couple months
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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 07:22:19
September 10 2014 07:21 GMT
#69
Why is EUW still down? It takes that long to patch client up?

Edit : Nevermind, it takes 6 hours :\

Also how can you not land E on Soraka? Shit will work with any cc. Amu ult + Soraka's E will work wonders. Silence + another root :D
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droserin
Profile Joined September 2014
127 Posts
September 10 2014 07:24 GMT
#70
As I said, anyone who isn't stunned can just walk out of it. It has to be combo'd if you want the root. You can basically walk all the way across it with boots before it triggers.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 10 2014 07:36 GMT
#71
In other words it's a terrific zoning tool.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 10 2014 07:51 GMT
#72
I mean it's a 2 second root if you get it so it's pretty strong.
Carrilord has arrived.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 10 2014 08:31 GMT
#73
I'm definitely intrigued by the Cass and Viktor changes. Both those champs are always on the fringes of my regular play rotation. Can't wait to try them out.

Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 10 2014 08:35 GMT
#74
I always wanted to learn Cass before. Now it seems I'm gonna have to.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 10 2014 08:40 GMT
#75
On September 10 2014 16:24 droserin wrote:
As I said, anyone who isn't stunned can just walk out of it. It has to be combo'd if you want the root. You can basically walk all the way across it with boots before it triggers.

Well they're silenced the whole time they're walking out so any slow or other cc will all but guarantee the root.

Basically don't think of it as a rooting tool think of it as an AoE silence for teamfights.

It should be super mean against assassins. They go in on your ad and you drop the silence on them forcing them to stand and auto and eat the root or walk away from your AD.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 10 2014 08:52 GMT
#76
On September 10 2014 10:12 Ketara wrote:
This is just hurting my brain.

Viktor Q goes from 260+0.65 damage every 5 seconds to 370+0.7 damage every 4 seconds.

His Hex Core gains 100 AP.

He gets to augment all 4 of his skills now instead of just 1.

People on TL argue it's a nerf.

Give Urgot number changes that make him weaker in lane and the midgame, but Tristana-level damage output with his autos once he hits level 16 and at least 4 items on top of boots.
That'll still be 425 aa range Urgot.

Viktor's range wasn't increased, and he still dies easily when you look at him funny, so the Q changes don't mean much, you don't be spamming Qs all day, dealing decent dps and surviving a well a a Lulu in the thick of things.
Augmenting W is a cutesy more than anything else. The stats on each augment are not cost-effective, so you rely on the spell itself, Q is utility I'll admit, but E we need to see and the most probable case atm is that he's worse off despite doing more damage on paper.

The Hexcore loses out when you first upgrade it, and you need 2k gold more to get your "additional 80 AP".

Viktor had clearly defined power spikes that tended to not line-up with his opponents, which gave him a bit of flexibility as long as you got the augment timely enough, the changes smooth it out in favour of "once you've got spare gold to spend, you can dump it toward an item that'll bring more AP and utility for its slot than most in the game". He doesn't have these spikes, especially at level 7~9 for his wave clear + burst.

Oh, great, you do 500 more damage in the late game! But you do 300 less in the midgame, which is when the Shyvana/Maokai/etc. don't have 3k HP and 150 MR to neuter your ult yet.
I mean, as soon as you talk about Seraph's on Viktor and how strong it is and how much AP it gives for his Q... who gives a damn. Because Viktor players know his current kit is about the level 7+ with augment and the midgame burst damage, not the 45 minutes in, 6 items "Man I sure hope I can get in range and they won't spam shields and heals (or just kill me) before my ult can finish the squishies off with periodic damage".

Yeah, the more I think about it, the less I like what they did with the Hex Core.

On September 10 2014 16:01 739 wrote:
Also Soraka's E is like DotA2 Disruptor's ulti.

Nop, much shorter, and no big ass damage attached.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 10 2014 09:28 GMT
#77
On September 10 2014 18:00 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
i want to start playing League but i wont be able to play until november, so i wanted to watch streams. Who would you reccommend for someone who has very little knowledge but maybe above average mechanics from playing sc2 at high masters level?

"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 10 2014 09:36 GMT
#78
On September 10 2014 18:28 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 18:00 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
i want to start playing League but i wont be able to play until november, so i wanted to watch streams. Who would you reccommend for someone who has very little knowledge but maybe above average mechanics from playing sc2 at high masters level?



I don't know of any streams geared towards really new players, so I can't really recommend anyone if you haven't played the game before. Mechanics don't really play into it much if you don't know what abilities do. Maybe some ADC stream like Doublelift or Gosu.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
September 10 2014 09:46 GMT
#79
Geronimo isn't bad I think
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 10 2014 10:06 GMT
#80
Mechanic ability doesn't carry over very much at all to LoL, it's a very knowledge based game imo, so check out some streams where the streamer keeps a running commentary of what's happening, what he's doing and why (SickMotionLol, Wingsofdeath, Nightblue3). These are also appropriate because it's much easier to start understanding the game in toplane and jungle. Both of those roles are very isolated, so you can focus on what you're doing without having to figure out the actions of your teammates.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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