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[Patch 4.13] Sona Update General Discussion - Page 26

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Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 03 2014 23:43 GMT
#501
Sona is one of those champions that is annoying as hell to play against when she's strong. I don't miss the days when Sona was in every damn game.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 01:41:28
August 04 2014 01:40 GMT
#502
Meh, I guess my support pool went down by one, going to take a little time to learn new Sona.

No big deal though, Riot gave me OP mustache man a couple months ago, so I guess it's a fair trade.

But honestly, the fact you have to stick close to your allies makes me feel like I'm playing as goddam Pix.
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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
August 04 2014 01:50 GMT
#503
I am not a sona player but having played with the new sona a bit there are two things that jump out at me. One is that people still seem to just spam the auras which is weaker now and not what I think Riot wants given their posts on the remake. The second is that her ult animation is SO much clearer and consistent with its area of effect which I LOVE.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2014 02:53 GMT
#504
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that she sucks now :D
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 04 2014 03:28 GMT
#505
i've had the new CLG coach on my f list from season 2 to season 3 and he used to grind even more games than me while hanging around at 1800 elo ish. He played on a lot of teams but afaik never had any real competitive 5s experience. He used to spam rammus but would play multiple roles. I'm really curious how they picked him, not that there are any coaches who are actually qualified except for the ones who've coached before. He was a nice guy from what I remembered but I didn't really talk to him, was one of those guys I added from a random solo queue game but would never accept my normal invites.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 04 2014 03:34 GMT
#506
On August 04 2014 12:28 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i've had the new CLG coach on my f list from season 2 to season 3 and he used to grind even more games than me while hanging around at 1800 elo ish. He played on a lot of teams but afaik never had any real competitive 5s experience. He used to spam rammus but would play multiple roles. I'm really curious how they picked him, not that there are any coaches who are actually qualified except for the ones who've coached before. He was a nice guy from what I remembered but I didn't really talk to him, was one of those guys I added from a random solo queue game but would never accept my normal invites.

CLG coach as in Montecristo? Or is there another coach?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 03:44:09
August 04 2014 03:38 GMT
#507
there's a new "inhouse" coach now

also lol @ reddit thread, why is it harder to autoattack things now. RTS/moba mechanics 101, don't right click to attack.

those people need to watch some kwanro fpvods where he a-clicks enemy zerglings attacking his drones in zvz.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 03:39:34
August 04 2014 03:39 GMT
#508
On August 04 2014 11:53 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that tolkein sucks now :D


I think this is what you meant. :D
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2014 03:51 GMT
#509
On August 04 2014 12:39 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 11:53 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that tolkein sucks now :D


I think this is what you meant. :D


I remember during that game I purposely took the Q aura and used the buff to autoattack a minion (I think his Sona was level 12 or something). I did a grand total of fucking 83 extra damage. My mind was blown.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
August 04 2014 04:53 GMT
#510
On August 04 2014 12:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
there's a new "inhouse" coach now

also lol @ reddit thread, why is it harder to autoattack things now. RTS/moba mechanics 101, don't right click to attack.

those people need to watch some kwanro fpvods where he a-clicks enemy zerglings attacking his drones in zvz.

I haven't looked at it, but target recognition is legit fucked for a while.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 04 2014 05:12 GMT
#511
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 04 2014 05:22 GMT
#512
On August 04 2014 12:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
there's a new "inhouse" coach now

also lol @ reddit thread, why is it harder to autoattack things now. RTS/moba mechanics 101, don't right click to attack.

those people need to watch some kwanro fpvods where he a-clicks enemy zerglings attacking his drones in zvz.

Also use ~ if you are after champions, or else you pull a doublelift and auto a pink during a baron fight.
Freeeeeeedom
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 04 2014 05:51 GMT
#513
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 04 2014 07:15 GMT
#514
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.


It would also help reduce the power of mobility, which is something this game needs.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 09:28:41
August 04 2014 09:17 GMT
#515
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.

It's not a bad thing when implemented properly. The problem comes from the current implementation where chain CC pretty much doesn't work unless you have like 200+ms overlap. Trouble is, it totally fucks low latency games where you can easily react in time to spam flash or riftwalk or like khazix jump or something like that.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 04 2014 10:06 GMT
#516
On August 04 2014 18:17 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.

It's not a bad thing when implemented properly. The problem comes from the current implementation where chain CC pretty much doesn't work unless you have like 200+ms overlap. Trouble is, it totally fucks low latency games where you can easily react in time to spam flash or riftwalk or like khazix jump or something like that.

the exact games they should be designing for.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 11:08:25
August 04 2014 11:07 GMT
#517
On August 04 2014 19:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 18:17 Amui wrote:
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.

It's not a bad thing when implemented properly. The problem comes from the current implementation where chain CC pretty much doesn't work unless you have like 200+ms overlap. Trouble is, it totally fucks low latency games where you can easily react in time to spam flash or riftwalk or like khazix jump or something like that.

the exact games they should be designing for.

Yeah, it's been a long while since I've seen sub 100 ping, so no. Riot needs to fix that shit.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 04 2014 11:18 GMT
#518
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
August 04 2014 11:25 GMT
#519
On August 04 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.

Funny story is I often have lower ping to EUW every now and then. At times like that, NA becomes my 3rd ranked server when it comes to ping.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 04 2014 11:30 GMT
#520
On August 04 2014 20:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.

Funny story is I often have lower ping to EUW every now and then. At times like that, NA becomes my 3rd ranked server when it comes to ping.

Probably because they moved servers to Amsterdam (?) since then I have even much lower ping. I used to have ~65ms.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
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