• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:58
CEST 12:58
KST 19:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)5Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!38Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Announcement PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
Which box art did your first copy of StarCraft 1 have? New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! XUN appreciation thread ASL22 General Discussion Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6983 users

[Patch 4.13] Sona Update General Discussion - Page 26

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 76 Next
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 03 2014 23:43 GMT
#501
Sona is one of those champions that is annoying as hell to play against when she's strong. I don't miss the days when Sona was in every damn game.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 01:41:28
August 04 2014 01:40 GMT
#502
Meh, I guess my support pool went down by one, going to take a little time to learn new Sona.

No big deal though, Riot gave me OP mustache man a couple months ago, so I guess it's a fair trade.

But honestly, the fact you have to stick close to your allies makes me feel like I'm playing as goddam Pix.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
August 04 2014 01:50 GMT
#503
I am not a sona player but having played with the new sona a bit there are two things that jump out at me. One is that people still seem to just spam the auras which is weaker now and not what I think Riot wants given their posts on the remake. The second is that her ult animation is SO much clearer and consistent with its area of effect which I LOVE.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2014 02:53 GMT
#504
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that she sucks now :D
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 04 2014 03:28 GMT
#505
i've had the new CLG coach on my f list from season 2 to season 3 and he used to grind even more games than me while hanging around at 1800 elo ish. He played on a lot of teams but afaik never had any real competitive 5s experience. He used to spam rammus but would play multiple roles. I'm really curious how they picked him, not that there are any coaches who are actually qualified except for the ones who've coached before. He was a nice guy from what I remembered but I didn't really talk to him, was one of those guys I added from a random solo queue game but would never accept my normal invites.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 04 2014 03:34 GMT
#506
On August 04 2014 12:28 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i've had the new CLG coach on my f list from season 2 to season 3 and he used to grind even more games than me while hanging around at 1800 elo ish. He played on a lot of teams but afaik never had any real competitive 5s experience. He used to spam rammus but would play multiple roles. I'm really curious how they picked him, not that there are any coaches who are actually qualified except for the ones who've coached before. He was a nice guy from what I remembered but I didn't really talk to him, was one of those guys I added from a random solo queue game but would never accept my normal invites.

CLG coach as in Montecristo? Or is there another coach?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 03:44:09
August 04 2014 03:38 GMT
#507
there's a new "inhouse" coach now

also lol @ reddit thread, why is it harder to autoattack things now. RTS/moba mechanics 101, don't right click to attack.

those people need to watch some kwanro fpvods where he a-clicks enemy zerglings attacking his drones in zvz.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 03:39:34
August 04 2014 03:39 GMT
#508
On August 04 2014 11:53 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that tolkein sucks now :D


I think this is what you meant. :D
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2014 03:51 GMT
#509
On August 04 2014 12:39 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 11:53 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that tolkein sucks now :D


I think this is what you meant. :D


I remember during that game I purposely took the Q aura and used the buff to autoattack a minion (I think his Sona was level 12 or something). I did a grand total of fucking 83 extra damage. My mind was blown.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 04 2014 04:53 GMT
#510
On August 04 2014 12:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
there's a new "inhouse" coach now

also lol @ reddit thread, why is it harder to autoattack things now. RTS/moba mechanics 101, don't right click to attack.

those people need to watch some kwanro fpvods where he a-clicks enemy zerglings attacking his drones in zvz.

I haven't looked at it, but target recognition is legit fucked for a while.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 04 2014 05:12 GMT
#511
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 04 2014 05:22 GMT
#512
On August 04 2014 12:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
there's a new "inhouse" coach now

also lol @ reddit thread, why is it harder to autoattack things now. RTS/moba mechanics 101, don't right click to attack.

those people need to watch some kwanro fpvods where he a-clicks enemy zerglings attacking his drones in zvz.

Also use ~ if you are after champions, or else you pull a doublelift and auto a pink during a baron fight.
Freeeeeeedom
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 04 2014 05:51 GMT
#513
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 04 2014 07:15 GMT
#514
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.


It would also help reduce the power of mobility, which is something this game needs.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 09:28:41
August 04 2014 09:17 GMT
#515
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.

It's not a bad thing when implemented properly. The problem comes from the current implementation where chain CC pretty much doesn't work unless you have like 200+ms overlap. Trouble is, it totally fucks low latency games where you can easily react in time to spam flash or riftwalk or like khazix jump or something like that.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 04 2014 10:06 GMT
#516
On August 04 2014 18:17 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.

It's not a bad thing when implemented properly. The problem comes from the current implementation where chain CC pretty much doesn't work unless you have like 200+ms overlap. Trouble is, it totally fucks low latency games where you can easily react in time to spam flash or riftwalk or like khazix jump or something like that.

the exact games they should be designing for.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 11:08:25
August 04 2014 11:07 GMT
#517
On August 04 2014 19:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 18:17 Amui wrote:
On August 04 2014 14:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 04 2014 14:12 PrinceXizor wrote:
Theoretically they are fixing the bug where you can zhonyas when CC changes. i wonder if this will affect flashing between CCs as they seem to have wanted that in place.

Honestly Riot should just completely remove cc buffering. It was a stupid thing to implement in the first place and is one of the worst things about the game imo.

Riot's stated reason for wanting it in the game is to make it easier on players with high ping/lag to be able to react to cc, which is a worthy goal, but it ultimately causes a shitton of other problems that have significant impact on the game. Chain cc'ing is almost impossible unless you stack cc and waste cc duration. CC buffering also causes bugs like the Lissandra ult bug where the target manages to move after you ult them.

It's not a bad thing when implemented properly. The problem comes from the current implementation where chain CC pretty much doesn't work unless you have like 200+ms overlap. Trouble is, it totally fucks low latency games where you can easily react in time to spam flash or riftwalk or like khazix jump or something like that.

the exact games they should be designing for.

Yeah, it's been a long while since I've seen sub 100 ping, so no. Riot needs to fix that shit.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 04 2014 11:18 GMT
#518
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 04 2014 11:25 GMT
#519
On August 04 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.

Funny story is I often have lower ping to EUW every now and then. At times like that, NA becomes my 3rd ranked server when it comes to ping.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 04 2014 11:30 GMT
#520
On August 04 2014 20:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.

Funny story is I often have lower ping to EUW every now and then. At times like that, NA becomes my 3rd ranked server when it comes to ping.

Probably because they moved servers to Amsterdam (?) since then I have even much lower ping. I used to have ~65ms.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 76 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech155
Lowko82
EnDerr 36
Rex 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5005
Bisu 851
Jaedong 682
Horang2 673
Shuttle 573
Mong 338
EffOrt 329
BeSt 327
Larva 297
Mini 220
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 210
Light 184
Rush 165
Stork 106
Soulkey 94
Pusan 92
Dewaltoss 77
Leta 77
Killer 76
ZerO 75
Snow 70
Mind 49
ToSsGirL 45
sorry 37
Hm[arnc] 28
Yoon 27
Bale 24
Barracks 24
Sacsri 20
soO 20
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
SilentControl 12
Free 9
NotJumperer 8
League of Legends
JimRising 363
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1443
pashabiceps1203
shoxiejesuss976
markeloff77
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King68
Other Games
singsing1270
ceh9786
Sick140
B2W.Neo121
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 69
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 70
• LUISG 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1318
Upcoming Events
GSL
2m
IntoTheiNu 128
CranKy Ducklings SOOP11
OSC
2h 2m
PiGosaur Cup
13h 2m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
Replay Cast
1d 13h
The PondCast
1d 23h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
OSC
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs Shuttle
BeSt vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Leta vs ggaemo
Jaedong vs Queen
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.