[Patch 4.13] Sona Update General Discussion - Page 25

On August 04 2014 03:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
The worst part of sona isn't that she's miserable now. but that she's also miserable to play. i can get screwing up balance because they wanted to change her. after all riot doesn't play internally at a high level so they can't be sure of drastic changes being a nerf or buff. but someone had to play new sona and think "yeah, this is fun". how that happened is completely unknown to me.

On August 04 2014 03:21 nafta wrote:

I played her and enjoyed it more than before as well.

On August 04 2014 03:24 Sponkz wrote:


That's because you sucked major dick with her before the rework l0l.

On August 04 2014 03:25 nafta wrote:

Pls when it comes to supports I have no superiors.My sona was godly when I actually played her.

On August 04 2014 03:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
I feel like you could sum up new sona with a flash game where you have to tag colorful dots with a circle of that color and it gives you extra time on the countdown every time you do it. The mini game isn't very fun.

On August 04 2014 03:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
I feel like you could sum up new sona with a flash game where you have to tag colorful dots with a circle of that color and it gives you extra time on the countdown every time you do it. The mini game isn't very fun.

On August 04 2014 03:37 nafta wrote:

And old sona just gave a huge aura.In exchange for having to actually move you get more powerful auras.Only thing that I find annoying is how you still cant target your heal.Should be like the summoner.

On August 04 2014 00:58 Volband wrote:

You know, you are more spot on than you'd think. I was browsing through challanger support mains, and found this guy on eune, currently #6 :http://www.lolking.net/summoner/eune/36905229

He goes full tank sona almost every game, and even though it's pre-rework sona, they are not all that different. I downloaded a replay of his game (ult seems bugged for sona there, or he did not use it in a 49 minute, close-as-hell game), and experimented three times with it in team builder. I tried to understand how he plays sona, because just copying items would not really work.

The biggest issue is hands down mana, not putting a point on e at 4 is a MUST, you can't manage your mana otherwise. Btw, this guy only put a point on e after q and w were maxed. Sure, new E is better, but the passive, man! I'm not sure if he would still go spellthief (sometimes did not even buy one), but maxing q with spellthief (never upgraded) can get you through lvl 6 if you go tanky. The best thing in his build is definetly ninja tabi. Focusing a support is generally a terrible idea, and the best exception was always sona, but man, I was tanking Draven axes like a boss. It was funny when this guy went back for his first buy, and he just bought two ruby crystals then rushed tabis, lmao. He bought wards, of course, just to clear that.

I mean, your q will only hurt with more ap, but that would just make you even squishier early on, so you can't really make it a better skill than it is. Howewer, your auras itself are great, especially W - not sure what's the laughing matter abot the shield, it' s actually much better than it's predecessor -, and your ult will always be one of the best ults in the game.

I'd like him to start to play with new sona, I'd definetly like to know what's the best way to manage your mana with tank sona, because I don't like delaying E too much. Also, sometimes he goes for the regular support route in terms of items, but I can't seem to figure out the pattern.

On August 04 2014 03:57 Slayer91 wrote:
yeah because janna is top 3 support
janna is a massive cc bot sona just has ult and e slow which is kinda shitty. sona is a lot more like nami without bubble. Has a heal, aoe ult, a slow and bonus damage on autos.

On August 04 2014 03:55 Slayer91 wrote:

i was a pretty good sona player and i went full tank and didnt level E as well
but new sona plays like an aura bitch the last sona you had to play super aggressive and abuse your powerchord+q burst and with a tank build you can do some really aggressive flash ults

i like i say new sona sucks and you then you say they aren't all that different when you suggest a sona playstyle because they are
you can't go aggressive with q max anymore becaues you have to stand next to your adc and its the same in teamfights, you just stand next to people and shield them its a super boring playstyle for me even if its what riot thinks sona was supposed to do before i can only played her becaues you could go batshit aggressive on people

new sona is just like a mobile locket lol fuck that

i like how you disregard a champion you clearly don't understand as easy and boring. if a champion is easy get to a really high rank with it and come back, otherwise its just objective nonsense. The auras happen whatever you do, you're basically a ranged udyr where all you do is add damage and tankiness and you have to find a way to abuse that as much as possible.

On August 04 2014 03:55 Slayer91 wrote:


i was a pretty good sona player and i went full tank and didnt level E as well
but new sona plays like an aura bitch the last sona you had to play super aggressive and abuse your powerchord+q burst and with a tank build you can do some really aggressive flash ults

i like i say new sona sucks and you then you say they aren't all that different when you suggest a sona playstyle because they are
you can't go aggressive with q max anymore becaues you have to stand next to your adc and its the same in teamfights, you just stand next to people and shield them its a super boring playstyle for me even if its what riot thinks sona was supposed to do before i can only played her becaues you could go batshit aggressive on people

new sona is just like a mobile locket lol fuck that

i like how you disregard a champion you clearly don't understand as easy and boring. if a champion is easy get to a really high rank with it and come back, otherwise its just objective nonsense. The auras happen whatever you do, you're basically a ranged udyr where all you do is add damage and tankiness and you have to find a way to abuse that as much as possible.

On August 04 2014 06:19 Volband wrote:
That's how you sound. All jokes aside, I whole-heartedly understand everyone who qq-s about the q change, it was indeed a trademark of Sona's, but you just need to suck it up, there's a reason it is the way it is now. With time, riot might get rid of all the retardedness of bot lane (Morg Q, Morg E, Leona Ult, disabling Vayne).

Edit: and just for clarity, obviously every champ can be mastered to the point it is really hard to mimic that play, I'm not taking credit away from anyone, but if it's really a point of arguement whether sona was easy or not, then we face some serious problems.

On August 04 2014 07:08 cLutZ wrote:


I don't understand what you are saying. Riot's own demonstration of Sona's laning for the rework makes her look pathetic. Which does not bode well.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-update/sona-maven-of-the-strings

On August 04 2014 06:19 Volband wrote:

Ye, I clearly don't understand sona, and the new sona is a toally different sona, because you can't solo kill people on bot now. That's like a 180. Except not. After laning, unless you were one of those ap sonas - which you said you were not -, your q harass was meh, and way too dangerous to walk up to a group of 5. You mainly just sustained everything back on your team.

And sona was easy as fuck, if you want to call it hard, then come up with new terms to champs that are actually hard. The only things that differentiated a good and a bad sona were passive usage and how you used your ult. The rest was basic game knowledge stuff. It was really easy to do much, and be the man behind the courtain and go totally unnoticed. Sure, people will remember your ults, but that's all, no one points out if you w power chord an assassin instead of reflex-q-ing him.
New sona is a mobile locket and a mobile talisman, instead of a mobile healing battery and a raid boss at bot lane. Get real, it's pretty funny how the complaint is "man, it was so fucking awesome when I my heal barely saved someone, but now, when my shield barely saves someone, it's just shitty. I mean, it's a shield and looks ugly, I should've let the guy die, really. And back then, I could just mash the keyboards from mid game onwards, so my team had all my auras, not to mention the free assists, when I did not actually do shit, but now I have to interact with them? Also, my E is useful now, fuck that. And all in all, I always did something, even if I did not do anything."

That's how you sound. All jokes aside, I whole-heartedly understand everyone who qq-s about the q change, it was indeed a trademark of Sona's, but you just need to suck it up, there's a reason it is the way it is now. With time, riot might get rid of all the retardedness of bot lane (Morg Q, Morg E, Leona Ult, disabling Vayne).

Edit: and just for clarity, obviously every champ can be mastered to the point it is really hard to mimic that play, I'm not taking credit away from anyone, but if it's really a point of arguement whether sona was easy or not, then we face some serious problems.