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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 04 2014 11:34 GMT
#521
On August 04 2014 20:30 739 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:25 Gahlo wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.

Funny story is I often have lower ping to EUW every now and then. At times like that, NA becomes my 3rd ranked server when it comes to ping.

Probably because they moved servers to Amsterdam (?) since then I have even much lower ping. I used to have ~65ms.

This was before the move.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 04 2014 11:35 GMT
#522
Well it depends where you live.I had 40 ping at most(when the servers were working) now I have 70/80.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 04 2014 12:25 GMT
#523
On August 04 2014 20:35 nafta wrote:
Well it depends where you live.I had 40 ping at most(when the servers were working) now I have 70/80.

I live on east coast USA. lol
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 04 2014 14:14 GMT
#524
On August 04 2014 11:53 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that she sucks now :D

This is so confusing.
The legend of Darien lives on
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 04 2014 14:16 GMT
#525
On August 04 2014 23:14 mr_tolkien wrote:
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On August 04 2014 11:53 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression after watching Tolkien playing her is that she sucks now :D

This is so confusing.

Aren't you used to hearing that by now?
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#526
On August 04 2014 20:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.

Funny story is I often have lower ping to EUW every now and then. At times like that, NA becomes my 3rd ranked server when it comes to ping.

Riot have backup servers in florida I think, that's where the tournament realm used to work and they also used them for the EU server and the Brasil one when needed. I don't know what they use it for now tho
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 04 2014 15:52 GMT
#527
On August 04 2014 23:56 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:25 Gahlo wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:18 739 wrote:
100ms? That's a lot, I'm always ~50ms, EU ftw.

Funny story is I often have lower ping to EUW every now and then. At times like that, NA becomes my 3rd ranked server when it comes to ping.

Riot have backup servers in florida I think, that's where the tournament realm used to work and they also used them for the EU server and the Brasil one when needed. I don't know what they use it for now tho

Only Riot servers I know of in Florida are for Latin America North.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2014 16:33 GMT
#528
On August 04 2014 03:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
The worst part of sona isn't that she's miserable now. but that she's also miserable to play. i can get screwing up balance because they wanted to change her. after all riot doesn't play internally at a high level so they can't be sure of drastic changes being a nerf or buff. but someone had to play new sona and think "yeah, this is fun". how that happened is completely unknown to me.


Pretty sure Riot has a shitload of D1/challenger players.

Also it is very easy for them to ask a pro player of theit opinions.
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swim224
Profile Joined May 2010
Botswana368 Posts
August 04 2014 16:38 GMT
#529
On August 04 2014 21:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 20:35 nafta wrote:
Well it depends where you live.I had 40 ping at most(when the servers were working) now I have 70/80.

I live on east coast USA. lol

Yeah, I live in east coast Canada and I get 150 rito pls.
....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2014 16:50 GMT
#530
On August 05 2014 01:38 swim224 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 21:25 Gahlo wrote:
On August 04 2014 20:35 nafta wrote:
Well it depends where you live.I had 40 ping at most(when the servers were working) now I have 70/80.

I live on east coast USA. lol

Yeah, I live in east coast Canada and I get 150 rito pls.


East coast as in... Quebec?

I get 80 in Toronto.
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ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
August 04 2014 17:25 GMT
#531
On August 04 2014 20:35 nafta wrote:
Well it depends where you live.I had 40 ping at most(when the servers were working) now I have 70/80.

Solid 28ms ping here :D
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 17:27:00
August 04 2014 17:26 GMT
#532
is malphite good right now?first time i picked him since s3 just to counter jax and it was easiest lane of my life, i didnt even play well suicided once durin g dive still could bully him entire game, guess multiple nerfs to other toplaners made malphite good again similar how they did with talon
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 17:35:52
August 04 2014 17:26 GMT
#533
On August 05 2014 01:33 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 03:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
The worst part of sona isn't that she's miserable now. but that she's also miserable to play. i can get screwing up balance because they wanted to change her. after all riot doesn't play internally at a high level so they can't be sure of drastic changes being a nerf or buff. but someone had to play new sona and think "yeah, this is fun". how that happened is completely unknown to me.


Pretty sure Riot has a shitload of D1/challenger players.

Also it is very easy for them to ask a pro player of theit opinions.


Maybe a handful, but not a "shitload." Phreak, Smash... Tryn, that's all I can think of off the top of my head. At their St. Louis office I know there was one diamond, but he was like low level diamond 5 (and he's no longer there). Anyone want to add to the list, feel free. I'd wager it's fewer than a dozen though, and certainly no more than two dozen. I mean, maybe they lock them in a dungeon for all I know, but based on what I know, it's not many.

Also, the average level of a Riot inhouse is pretty freaking bad. You'd be surprised.
Victolol
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany46 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 17:28:52
August 04 2014 17:27 GMT
#534
On August 05 2014 01:33 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2014 03:15 PrinceXizor wrote:
The worst part of sona isn't that she's miserable now. but that she's also miserable to play. i can get screwing up balance because they wanted to change her. after all riot doesn't play internally at a high level so they can't be sure of drastic changes being a nerf or buff. but someone had to play new sona and think "yeah, this is fun". how that happened is completely unknown to me.


Pretty sure Riot has a shitload of D1/challenger players.

Also it is very easy for them to ask a pro player of theit opinions.


When I spoke to a Rioter (sorry for forgetting his Nickname :-() during my visit of the european LCS studios in Cologne he told me that the average level of play was around silver with the average level varying between departments (Accounting being the lowest on average, who would have guessed ;-) ) which sounds about right considering that Riot's Lyte stated that even on the balancing & design teams people don't necessarily play in the upper leagues.

Riot's Fearless for example is not a high level player and he is a dev who worked as a designer on the Sona rework. Here is a statement by him:
+ Show Spoiler +

One of the coolest things about Riot is how awesome our support structures are so that we don't have to be experts at everything. I'm not a high elo player, though not due to a lack of love for the game. It's mainly due to the fact that for the last ten years, I've been building games. Throughout the entire process of updating Sona, I relied on the feedback from multiple Challenger and diamond players that work at Riot, many of whom have played a very large number of Sona games and identify as former or current Sona mains. Never did I imagine that my experiences as a player would be enough for this work, nor even my experience as a designer. The reason I could have faith in the Sona work came down to the fact that Rioters don't get in the door without being pretty awesome at something, and are really good about sharing what they know to make other people around them more awesome.

That doesn't mean we won't make mistakes, and it's entirely likely that Sona may still need some adjustments in the future. We don't have enough data to make that call yet, but I'll be very open when we do, and make sure you all know where we'll be going with her and why. I understand that the lack of communication at the end of the PBE time has really upset people, but at no time have I ever suggested that anyone should not question the choices we've made, or that anyone should just "trust me." I'm happy to explain every change we made on Sona, or at least point to where I've already done that.

Source: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay/aTt1Iydz-weekend-at-sonas-2-and-zero-fun-was-had?comment=00020002


It pretty much confirms what Sufficiency expected so you are both correct.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22147 Posts
August 04 2014 18:22 GMT
#535
On August 05 2014 02:26 kongoline wrote:
is malphite good right now?first time i picked him since s3 just to counter jax and it was easiest lane of my life, i didnt even play well suicided once durin g dive still could bully him entire game, guess multiple nerfs to other toplaners made malphite good again similar how they did with talon

Malphite is my go to top laner atm (dont own mao /cry) and I agree he is good in lane while his ult is still as high impact as its always been. Tho this is in Gold country to so your mileage may vary
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 04 2014 18:28 GMT
#536
--- Nuked ---
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
August 04 2014 18:29 GMT
#537
On August 05 2014 03:22 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2014 02:26 kongoline wrote:
is malphite good right now?first time i picked him since s3 just to counter jax and it was easiest lane of my life, i didnt even play well suicided once durin g dive still could bully him entire game, guess multiple nerfs to other toplaners made malphite good again similar how they did with talon

Malphite is my go to top laner atm (dont own mao /cry) and I agree he is good in lane while his ult is still as high impact as its always been. Tho this is in Gold country to so your mileage may vary


I've busted out Malph in high plat and have had decent results with him. I'm far from a proficient Malph (less than 20-25 games played with him ever) but he's as good as ever if you don't feed.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 04 2014 18:33 GMT
#538
Quiz: What is the only champion in the game with one-word abilities? (I'm pretty sure there's only one but maybe there's a second I missed.)
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 04 2014 18:34 GMT
#539
Riot should hire me as a consultant. I'm low diamond, which means I' sort of know how the game works but I troll around and goof off enough so I know how to have fun.

Also, Malphite got a huge mana buff on his W. Went from a whole bunch to like 30 at all levels.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 04 2014 18:40 GMT
#540
On August 05 2014 03:33 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Quiz: What is the only champion in the game with one-word abilities? (I'm pretty sure there's only one but maybe there's a second I missed.)


Zap!

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