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Gorsameth
Netherlands21767 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:07 wei2coolman wrote: I don't think it's nearly as nefarious as you guys make out nick allen's tweet to be. He's just clearing the air for fans inquiring lustboy pick up. Clearing up what? there is nothing about this situation that requires Riot to make statements like these | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:21 Gorsameth wrote: Clearing up what? there is nothing about this situation that requires Riot to make statements like these I'm sure there are plenty of fans wondering if lustboy can play this week in lcs. | ||
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
Best troll NA | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21767 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:25 wei2coolman wrote: I'm sure there are plenty of fans wondering if lustboy can play this week in lcs. Riot can send a reminder to TSM if they care. They have 0 reason to air the laundry like this. The most they should do is make a small note about it during the LCS broadcast about he couldnt play yet this week if papers were not done in time. This is drama creation for no reason at all and only makes them (Riot) look bad. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:35 Gorsameth wrote: Riot can send a reminder to TSM if they care. They have 0 reason to air the laundry like this. The most they should do is make a small note about it during the LCS broadcast about he couldnt play yet this week if papers were not done in time. This is drama creation for no reason at all and only makes them (Riot) look bad. I don't see why transparency in regards to player pickups is necessarily a bad thing. Or why it's considered airing laundry for that matter. Again, there's nothing nefarious about it... It's not like nick allen spoiled the news that lustboy was being picked up. He's keeping lcs fans updated about fancy new pickup. It only looks bad cuz tsm hasn't finished submitting forms before announcing pick up. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
I thought it was actually good on Nick Allen to tweet it - If Lustboy was unable to play due to missing a paperwork deadline, there'd be frustration directed at Riot. I don't understand why people are reacting so much to it :l (If there's further drama, that's certainly different though haha) The fact that he could have told TSM privately doesn't really matter much, given that it turned out (in Anakko's post above) to be addressed completely without issue. *shrugs* ^^ | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On July 23 2014 02:39 Alaric wrote: I just can't get behind the warmogs+FH supposed replacement build for Randuin's. When I have ~190 armour and the FH aura and still take 500+ dps from just IE/PD/LW Tristana, either he's got one of the most bullshit RNG on his crits ever, or raping every single tank item in turn just finally broke tank itemisation. It's happening game after game after game whenever an AD has IE and LW, regardless of his other items. That's just dumb, I'm made utterly useless once I can't 100-0 them anymore. I haven't been enjoying any game where I'm playing some kind of tank/initiator since 2 patches because of it. If people's sense of "AD carrying for real" is "being able to shred people with right-clicks and no need to kite ever past the 8k gold mark" then yeah, these are really entitled whiners. Honestly, you sound like the "really entitled whiner." Take it to the Shikyo memorial thread. It's really annoying to read this type of shit. If you're getting wrecked by ADs, it's probably because they are stutter stepping more so than you say, you're initiating at a shit time, you're not as far ahead as you think you are, or a million other reasons. Deal with it because whining in TL LoL doesn't change anything. It just clogs up the general discussion. Better yet, write down how you think you should deal with it or ask for input. A post should never be fucking "omg, this shit is imba" but rather "oh wow, this shit is strong. How do I deal with it?" and most of that is dependent on your specific game situation. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
The way he words it and given the context of the situation it sounds like Riot is butthurt TSM is announcing Lustboy on their roster before it has been Riot-sanctioned as part of the Riot-approved Riot-eSport. If Kubon can play on Gambit there is literally no way that Lustboy won't pass the behavior check, unless the behavior check involves "will not dispute Riot in any way." And its not like TSM is going to fail to get paperwork done on time. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:49 xes wrote: NickAllen's tweets would be fine if prefaced with the word "yet" The way he words it and given the context of the situation it sounds like Riot is butthurt TSM is announcing Lustboy on their roster before it has been Riot-sanctioned as part of the Riot-approved Riot-eSport. If Kubon can play on Gambit there is literally no way that Lustboy won't pass the behavior check, unless the behavior check involves "will not dispute Riot in any way." And its not like TSM is going to fail to get paperwork done on time. I think there has been at least a dozen times when teams have managed to fuck up paper work, including not filling stuff out in time | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:46 ghrur wrote: Honestly, you sound like the "really entitled whiner." Take it to the Shikyo memorial thread. It's really annoying to read this type of shit. If you're getting wrecked by ADs, it's probably because they are stutter stepping more so than you say, you're initiating at a shit time, you're not as far ahead as you think you are, or a million other reasons. Deal with it because whining in TL LoL doesn't change anything. It just clogs up the general discussion. Better yet, write down how you think you should deal with it or ask for input. A post should never be fucking "omg, this shit is imba" but rather "oh wow, this shit is strong. How do I deal with it?" and most of that is dependent on your specific game situation. Sorry to expect not to take 500+ dps (literally) from a Trist who doesn't even need to kite when she hs 3 items and I have 200+ armour and the FH aura on my side, duh. I do enjoy playing the game past 10 minutes and tanky built champions not being bigger early game gambits than Urgot, y'know. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 22 2014 20:04 nafta wrote: Well that would make you a not very smart person since most players who just join the lcs always perform poorly in the start overall. Don't really know how good is seraph since I don't watch his stream and no way to watch clg scrims but his lcs performance always just looks like someone who is very nervous to me.Exactly like altec but he finally managed to handle it a few weeks ago and he's been playing very well.Hopefully seraph can do the same before playoffs or during. lol that must make you a not very smart person since there have been plenty of players who perform not poorly in the start. (Ex. Wildturtle) not to mention the fact that Seraph did stream before joining, was a known sub who had little playtime, so you could actually see how he played. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:53 wei2coolman wrote: I think there has been at least a dozen times when teams have managed to fuck up paper work, including not filling stuff out in time Notice how I mentioned a specific team and not team in the abstract. Obviously Lemondogs manager and part-time NiP owner had issues but their organization as a whole was new to League/Riot and also full of sketch to begin with. Regardless, you're missing the main point of my argument to argue the technicality of whether or not TSM would get the paperwork done. The issue isn't that Riot shouldn't let everyone know that Lustboy is not yet confirmed due to procedural steps, but rather the snarky "don't you dare announce Lustboy before it is sanctioned" attitude that comes from those tweets being unabated at all. Whether that is the intention behind them or not, there is definitely a lack of professionalism via deliberate equivocation and ambiguity. In any of my dealings with employers, employees, and clients, that kind of inferred tone from language would be incredibly rude. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:53 Alaric wrote: Sorry to expect not to take 500+ dps from a Trist who doesn't even need to kite when she hs 3 items and I have 200+ armour and the FH aura on my side, duh. I do enjoy playing the game past 10 minutes and tanky built champions not being bigger early game gambits than Urgot, y'know. Frozen Heart aura is awful. It's only a 15% attack speed decrease and it only has like 700 range. Trist can easily stay outside of FH aura range, especially if the FH aura range is calculated from the center of the champion's model like most non-attack ranges in the game(since that will reduce the effective range by 50~70). If you have Warmogs+FH, that's 190 armor. LW effectively makes that 123.5 armor, which is 56% damage reduction. Trist with max level Q +PD will have max attack speed. Add in IE and you're looking at ~500 dps. Moral of story: Don't buy FH. Outside of the armor, it does nothing defensive for you. EDIT: Damn you people are reading way too much into a simple tweet. Maybe tweeting is the fastest and easiest way for Riot to contact TSM to ensure they get the message and the shit done asap. Not to mention it places it firmly in the public record so if shit happens Riot can cover their asses easier. We all know how prone to grabbing pitchforks this community is. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:53 Ryuu314 wrote: lol that must make you a not very smart person since there have been plenty of players who perform not poorly in the start. (Ex. Wildturtle) not to mention the fact that Seraph did stream before joining, was a known sub who had little playtime, so you could actually see how he played. Wow wildturtle a player with years of experience playing at lan tournaments did well how surprising is that? A lot of these players have never even been to a lan tournament.Like sure the previous mlgs may not be as professional like lcs but it sure helps. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 23 2014 03:53 Ryuu314 wrote: lol that must make you a not very smart person since there have been plenty of players who perform not poorly in the start. (Ex. Wildturtle) not to mention the fact that Seraph did stream before joining, was a known sub who had little playtime, so you could actually see how he played. I agree with you. We had a similar debate a few months ago, and the reality is that teams and players very rarely go from mediocre to elite. The few that have always had shown flashes of brilliance early and just struggled to be consistent (usually because of bad teammates). | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 23 2014 04:03 nafta wrote: Wow wildturtle a player with years of experience playing at lan tournaments did well how surprising is that? A lot of these players have never even been to a lan tournament.Like sure the previous mlgs may not be as professional like lcs but it sure helps. So? Seraph had OGN experience. Wildturtle also played at like...3 LANs. That's not exactly years of experience. Sorry, but Seraph isn't that good. He's been way overhyped since he came to NA. | ||
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Canada12016 Posts
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