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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 18 2014 10:09 GMT
#161
quick as whip
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OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
June 18 2014 10:34 GMT
#162
nidalee is gonna be perm ban in max 2 weeks when people get what items to build.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 18 2014 10:41 GMT
#163
With 500 AP, rank 5 Nidalee traps do 30% of current health. That's kind of random. Although I guess it's not actually that much more against squishy targets compared to old Nidalee. Does anyone else find it kind of hilarious that rank 1 takedown does a minimum of FOUR damage?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 18 2014 10:55 GMT
#164
On June 18 2014 19:41 GolemMadness wrote:
With 500 AP, rank 5 Nidalee traps do 30% of current health. That's kind of random. Although I guess it's not actually that much more against squishy targets compared to old Nidalee. Does anyone else find it kind of hilarious that rank 1 takedown does a minimum of FOUR damage?



Javelin Toss
Maximum Magic Damage: 150 / 225 / 300 / 375 / 450 (+120% AP)

lol, so it does similar damage to what it does now?
cool
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 11:00:07
June 18 2014 10:59 GMT
#165
Current is/was 575 (+170% AP) at max rank/range. Not really similar at all. -125 base and 0.5 AP ratio. Then take into account that the width has been halved and spears are now twice as hard to hit.

Then her pounce took an almighty kick in the nuts and she cant trololol away from people anymore.

Her heal took a small nerf but it wasn't really major.

Useless wet fish.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
June 18 2014 11:03 GMT
#166
On June 18 2014 19:59 Capped wrote:
Current is/was 575 (+170% AP) at max rank/range. Not really similar at all. -125 base and 0.5 AP ratio. Then take into account that the width has been halved and spears are now twice as hard to hit.

Then her pounce took an almighty kick in the nuts and she cant trololol away from people anymore.

Her heal took a small nerf but it wasn't really major.


Twice as hard? More like half as easy.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 18 2014 11:05 GMT
#167
Having width halved doesn't make the skill twice as hard to hit. Is Yasuo's Q isn't impossible to hit despite being a line with like no width.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22008 Posts
June 18 2014 11:06 GMT
#168
On June 18 2014 20:05 Scip wrote:
Having width halved doesn't make the skill twice as hard to hit. Is Yasuo's Q isn't impossible to hit despite being a line with like no width.

Yasuo is standing right next to people.
Nidalee throws her spears almost a full screen away.

Notice the difference?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 18 2014 11:09 GMT
#169
if i'm reading this correctly, can't you just bypass the teleport cooldown by going to a ward or a minion?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 18 2014 11:14 GMT
#170
The width at which you hit the enemy champion with a skillshot is the width of the projectile+the width of the enemy champion. Even if the projectile width is 0 you can still hit the skillshot and halving it won't halve your chances of hitting.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 11:19:18
June 18 2014 11:17 GMT
#171
On June 18 2014 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 20:05 Scip wrote:
Having width halved doesn't make the skill twice as hard to hit. Is Yasuo's Q isn't impossible to hit despite being a line with like no width.

Yasuo is standing right next to people.
Nidalee throws her spears almost a full screen away.

Notice the difference?

He just gave an example explaining why "half the width makes it twice as hard to hit" is utter nonsense.

Btw I am annoyed by this patch. Damn adc whining got them so much.
Off-season = best season
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
June 18 2014 11:19 GMT
#172
On June 18 2014 20:09 Frolossus wrote:
if i'm reading this correctly, can't you just bypass the teleport cooldown by going to a ward or a minion?

If you teleport to a ward or a minion you will get the full 300second cooldown. Nothing changed here.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 18 2014 11:35 GMT
#173
Will be interesting to see whether zekes or ardent will be better for supports. I can see zekes being a serious contender especially if the new BT works out to be a good item
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 18 2014 11:42 GMT
#174
What official forum do the developers read the most? NA or EUW?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22008 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-18 11:44:59
June 18 2014 11:44 GMT
#175
On June 18 2014 20:42 Scip wrote:
What official forum do the developers read the most? NA or EUW?

Their an American company so I assume NA
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
June 18 2014 12:11 GMT
#176
On June 18 2014 20:42 Scip wrote:
What official forum do the developers read the most? NA or EUW?

If you're gonna make a thread about Skarner, post the link so I can support pls.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 18 2014 12:28 GMT
#177
It's pretty random whether you get noticed or not, though. I assume time has a lot to do with it, but even if getting a red to post in your thread helps keeping it high the simple fact that you'll post more than 8 lines will get it buried real fast (the spam and shitfest on the official GD is real, one of the thread I posted there got to 2nd page less than 10s after I created it).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 18 2014 12:51 GMT
#178
On June 18 2014 20:05 Scip wrote:
Having width halved doesn't make the skill twice as hard to hit. Is Yasuo's Q isn't impossible to hit despite being a line with like no width.


Unless its a stationary target or somebody stupid enough to not try and sidestep it, its twice as hard. Her spears are notorious for being near impossible to sidestep if you see them too late / she's too close, even if it looks like you dodged it it hits anyway.

But yeah i guess your right.

On June 18 2014 20:03 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 19:59 Capped wrote:
Current is/was 575 (+170% AP) at max rank/range. Not really similar at all. -125 base and 0.5 AP ratio. Then take into account that the width has been halved and spears are now twice as hard to hit.

Then her pounce took an almighty kick in the nuts and she cant trololol away from people anymore.

Her heal took a small nerf but it wasn't really major.


Twice as hard? More like half as easy.


Fair point.
Useless wet fish.
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
June 18 2014 12:53 GMT
#179
mother of god shaco is so much fun.
Forever ZeNEX.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 18 2014 12:54 GMT
#180
Can you please show me the logic by which you arrived at "Unless its a stationary target or somebody stupid enough to not try and sidestep it, its twice as hard." please Capped because I don't see it
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
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