EPT[Patch 4.10] Nidalee/Skarner Rework General Discussion - P…
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22567 Posts
On June 18 2014 21:54 Scip wrote: Can you please show me the logic by which you arrived at "Unless its a stationary target or somebody stupid enough to not try and sidestep it, its twice as hard." please Capped because I don't see it Stop being pedantic. It is harder to hit now then it was before, no its not exactly twice as hard but that's not the point. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On June 18 2014 22:07 Gorsameth wrote: Stop being pedantic. It is harder to hit now then it was before, no its not exactly twice as hard but that's not the point. Indeed. I've seen 4.10 spears miss where if it were the old spears then it'd be a hit. I'm also already sick of hearing that combo sound that Nidalee has. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On June 18 2014 22:07 Gorsameth wrote: Stop being pedantic. It is harder to hit now then it was before, no its not exactly twice as hard but that's not the point. I'm not pedantic, I was just wondering what kind of important piece of information I was missing when Capped boldly asserted that it's twice as hard to hit unless the enemy is stationary or stupid. That's like saying that Skarner's damage got halved and when I asked how that assertion made any sense you'd tell me to not be pedantic it's just his damage is a lot lower and the exact figure's not the point. wtf? | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On June 18 2014 23:13 Scip wrote: I'm not pedantic, I was just wondering what kind of important piece of information I was missing when Capped boldly asserted that it's twice as hard to hit unless the enemy is stationary or stupid. That's like saying that Skarner's damage got halved and when I asked how that assertion made any sense you'd tell me to not be pedantic it's just his damage is a lot lower and the exact figure's not the point. wtf? Capped was merely using exaggeration to drive home a point. Plenty of people do it and the actual degree by which the spear is harder to hit is not the point. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
I love her rework. To me she seems much more... Nidaleeish for some reason. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On June 19 2014 00:00 Jek wrote: Mother of Christ toplane bruiser Nidalee is savage now, at the least until people start understanding just how much damage she can do early with her combo thanks to the Hunted bonus damage on Takedown. I predict for the next week or so, I can finally pick a champion where I will not end up feeding I'm forced top! :D I love her rework. To me she seems much more... Nidaleeish for some reason. I think the word you're looking for is coherent. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
BTW if your target is standing still I think it should be very slightly more difficult to hit them with the new spear. Y'know, standing still and all. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
LoL Rap Battles is back. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On June 19 2014 00:00 Jek wrote: Mother of Christ toplane bruiser Nidalee is savage now, at the least until people start understanding just how much damage she can do early with her combo thanks to the Hunted bonus damage on Takedown. I predict for the next week or so, I can finally pick a champion where I will not end up feeding I'm forced top! :D I love her rework. To me she seems much more... Nidaleeish for some reason. I think they'd generally lead with empowered pounce though to consume the on the hunt mark. New Skarner feels strong. We'd have to wait and see where he falls. | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On June 18 2014 23:19 Numy wrote: Capped was merely using exaggeration to drive home a point. Plenty of people do it and the actual degree by which the spear is harder to hit is not the point. It was half exaggeration, half knowledge of the halved hitbox = twice as hard. The point was that the hitbox of the spear had been halved and was now alot harder to hit. Although i did admit that he was right after his first post :| | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Oh, she also gets a 30% MS increase to chase her debuffed target. So trick people with traps in lane, or hit a javelin (a point-blank one if you have to) and go to town on them with the 700 range targeted gapcloser, the swipe to put Pounce on a 1s cd, then auto-takedown for massive burst damage. You can do that from level 3 instead of level 6, although it requires you to "Hunt" the target (eg. traps or javelins). Killing ranged minions once all melees are dead is going to be hell against her in the offlane till we get used to it. Think Jayce's level 2 all-in, 'cept it's level 3 and more potent but requires you to hit an ability first. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
ok about Skarner Lower dmg, weaker in early fights, can't 1v1 people as easily etc, slightly slower jungle a lot lower cd on W when just traveling on the map is surprisingly good, haven't seen anyone mention it yet the stun is useless in the early game pretty much, it's useful in the lategame especially if you get engaged on overall it's a small nerf but I think it's worth it for me to keep playing him | ||
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phathom321
United States1730 Posts
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