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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 02:15:36
June 11 2014 02:14 GMT
#1501
Spear ganks easiest ganks ever. Just miss when they were invis from a bush, that shit was HILARIOUS on jungle nid.

I'd actually jungle Nid over Yasuo. Easier harder hitting ganks with just one spell, and post 6 she can navigate the jungle like a boss. The built in combo AS buff + heal is nice too. Unlike Yasuo you can run any runes/masteries on her. With Yasuo I was doing stupid pages like AS/Armor/AS/AS.

Edit: Not saying nid jungle is good, just Yasuo jungle is that bad.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 11 2014 02:15 GMT
#1502
when are they gonna fix invis spears? ._.
i was hit by one last night
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 11 2014 02:36 GMT
#1503
On June 11 2014 10:49 Diamond wrote:
I honestly think Nidalee, Fiora, Talon, and Skarner are all better junglers than Yasuo, and they all SSSSUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKK.

Actually I could make a very long list, but let's just stick with the worst of the worst.

However he IS better than Zilean jungle. He's got that for him.

max rewind zilean jungle unbeatable.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 11 2014 02:45 GMT
#1504
On June 11 2014 11:12 Vultcher wrote:
New Quinn skin is pretty cool, I love the woad skins!

I like the Woad line, but I think the Quinn one is fucking awful. The only good part about it snow owl Valor.
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 11 2014 02:49 GMT
#1505
On June 11 2014 11:45 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:12 Vultcher wrote:
New Quinn skin is pretty cool, I love the woad skins!

I like the Woad line, but I think the Quinn one is fucking awful. The only good part about it snow owl Valor.

Woad Ashe is good but nothing truly amazing. 7/10

Woad Quinn I think looks great. 9/10

Woad King Darius is, in my opinion, one of the best skins in the entire game. 10/10.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 11 2014 03:00 GMT
#1506
On June 11 2014 11:49 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:45 Gahlo wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:12 Vultcher wrote:
New Quinn skin is pretty cool, I love the woad skins!

I like the Woad line, but I think the Quinn one is fucking awful. The only good part about it snow owl Valor.

Woad Ashe is good but nothing truly amazing. 7/10

Woad Quinn I think looks great. 9/10

Woad King Darius is, in my opinion, one of the best skins in the entire game. 10/10.

Thing is, I really like the whole blue tattoo motif that tends to go with woad stuff. With Quin it's only on her face and stomach, which you rarely if ever see.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 11 2014 03:06 GMT
#1507
On June 11 2014 11:49 Frudgey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:45 Gahlo wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:12 Vultcher wrote:
New Quinn skin is pretty cool, I love the woad skins!

I like the Woad line, but I think the Quinn one is fucking awful. The only good part about it snow owl Valor.

Woad Ashe is good but nothing truly amazing. 7/10

Woad Quinn I think looks great. 9/10

Woad King Darius is, in my opinion, one of the best skins in the entire game. 10/10.


Woad Ashe doesn't have a cape and is so better by default
Vultcher
Profile Joined December 2011
United States17 Posts
June 11 2014 03:21 GMT
#1508
On June 11 2014 12:06 Goumindong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:49 Frudgey wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:45 Gahlo wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:12 Vultcher wrote:
New Quinn skin is pretty cool, I love the woad skins!

I like the Woad line, but I think the Quinn one is fucking awful. The only good part about it snow owl Valor.

Woad Ashe is good but nothing truly amazing. 7/10

Woad Quinn I think looks great. 9/10

Woad King Darius is, in my opinion, one of the best skins in the entire game. 10/10.


Woad Ashe doesn't have a cape and is so better by default

I couldn't agree more! It's kind of silly that some of her skins are just cape recolors.
Carryon Vultcher
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 11 2014 03:28 GMT
#1509
Behold: the most insincere apology ever:

Thorin's statement:

I apologise for my off-colour remark regarding Reginald, which carried a perceivable implication that he resembled an animal, in any sense. The remark was intended as a joke, but on reflection, I would agree that it is unprofessional and unnecessary to make fun of an individual on the basis of something they have no control over, such as their appearance. In this respect, I can see that there have been occasions on which I have crossed that line on episodes of Summoning Insight, veering from discussion of individuals's words and actions into making light of factors over which they have no control and which should be off the table.

Humour aside, I don't think such jokes are the right approach for the show. Individuals should only be criticised for their actions and words, things over which they have direct control. After meditating upon this topic, I can see there is a middle ground that can be found between giving honest opinions about the game and its players without including such personal insults, which may be perceived as attacks.

It has never been the intention of the show to be perceived as a vehicle to insult others. The philosophy outlining the show is of open and honest discussion. Humour and a light-hearted approach serve as lubrication to keep the conversation flowing smoothly and transition between topics, simultaneously warming up the hosts and guests. For future episodes I will make a concerted effort to ensure my remarks remain within the context of the game.

This show has become something far beyond anything I had anticipated upon launching the idea, as the increased running times and regular line-up of guests will highlight. Running a loosely formated talk show for three hours is no easy task, so there are going to be times when one makes statements or decisions that they might think better of later. It's important to understand that a hot medium like a live talk show will yield sound bytes that will be judged very differently in the cold medium of transcribed text.

The latter carries an inherent bias, within the reader, that the person who made such statements put specific intention and thought into how he articulated himself, as one would if they were composing a text statement itself. If I thought it was impossible to overcome such issues with perception, then I'd cancel the show outright. As it is, I think it's possible to, with effort and focus, retain the identity of the show while also making all statements within the bounds of reasonable discussion and defensible on their own merits.

Ignoring all other components of the incident which preluded my remarks, I openly admit that my comments were not representative of the philosophy guiding and informing the show. When I reflect back on what was said, it's not the content, theme or approach that I'd like to represent the show. I apologise for my remarks regarding Reginald and acknowledge that they are not defensible as appropriate behaviour.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 11 2014 03:39 GMT
#1510
On June 11 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Behold: the most insincere apology ever:

Show nested quote +
Thorin's statement:

I apologise for my off-colour remark regarding Reginald, which carried a perceivable implication that he resembled an animal, in any sense. The remark was intended as a joke, but on reflection, I would agree that it is unprofessional and unnecessary to make fun of an individual on the basis of something they have no control over, such as their appearance. In this respect, I can see that there have been occasions on which I have crossed that line on episodes of Summoning Insight, veering from discussion of individuals's words and actions into making light of factors over which they have no control and which should be off the table.

Humour aside, I don't think such jokes are the right approach for the show. Individuals should only be criticised for their actions and words, things over which they have direct control. After meditating upon this topic, I can see there is a middle ground that can be found between giving honest opinions about the game and its players without including such personal insults, which may be perceived as attacks.

It has never been the intention of the show to be perceived as a vehicle to insult others. The philosophy outlining the show is of open and honest discussion. Humour and a light-hearted approach serve as lubrication to keep the conversation flowing smoothly and transition between topics, simultaneously warming up the hosts and guests. For future episodes I will make a concerted effort to ensure my remarks remain within the context of the game.

This show has become something far beyond anything I had anticipated upon launching the idea, as the increased running times and regular line-up of guests will highlight. Running a loosely formated talk show for three hours is no easy task, so there are going to be times when one makes statements or decisions that they might think better of later. It's important to understand that a hot medium like a live talk show will yield sound bytes that will be judged very differently in the cold medium of transcribed text.

The latter carries an inherent bias, within the reader, that the person who made such statements put specific intention and thought into how he articulated himself, as one would if they were composing a text statement itself. If I thought it was impossible to overcome such issues with perception, then I'd cancel the show outright. As it is, I think it's possible to, with effort and focus, retain the identity of the show while also making all statements within the bounds of reasonable discussion and defensible on their own merits.

Ignoring all other components of the incident which preluded my remarks, I openly admit that my comments were not representative of the philosophy guiding and informing the show. When I reflect back on what was said, it's not the content, theme or approach that I'd like to represent the show. I apologise for my remarks regarding Reginald and acknowledge that they are not defensible as appropriate behaviour.

atleast he isnt talking about insane macro and unreal timing
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 11 2014 03:48 GMT
#1511
On June 11 2014 12:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Behold: the most insincere apology ever:

Show nested quote +
Thorin's statement:

I apologise for my off-colour remark regarding Reginald, which carried a perceivable implication that he resembled an animal, in any sense. The remark was intended as a joke, but on reflection, I would agree that it is unprofessional and unnecessary to make fun of an individual on the basis of something they have no control over, such as their appearance. In this respect, I can see that there have been occasions on which I have crossed that line on episodes of Summoning Insight, veering from discussion of individuals's words and actions into making light of factors over which they have no control and which should be off the table.

Humour aside, I don't think such jokes are the right approach for the show. Individuals should only be criticised for their actions and words, things over which they have direct control. After meditating upon this topic, I can see there is a middle ground that can be found between giving honest opinions about the game and its players without including such personal insults, which may be perceived as attacks.

It has never been the intention of the show to be perceived as a vehicle to insult others. The philosophy outlining the show is of open and honest discussion. Humour and a light-hearted approach serve as lubrication to keep the conversation flowing smoothly and transition between topics, simultaneously warming up the hosts and guests. For future episodes I will make a concerted effort to ensure my remarks remain within the context of the game.

This show has become something far beyond anything I had anticipated upon launching the idea, as the increased running times and regular line-up of guests will highlight. Running a loosely formated talk show for three hours is no easy task, so there are going to be times when one makes statements or decisions that they might think better of later. It's important to understand that a hot medium like a live talk show will yield sound bytes that will be judged very differently in the cold medium of transcribed text.

The latter carries an inherent bias, within the reader, that the person who made such statements put specific intention and thought into how he articulated himself, as one would if they were composing a text statement itself. If I thought it was impossible to overcome such issues with perception, then I'd cancel the show outright. As it is, I think it's possible to, with effort and focus, retain the identity of the show while also making all statements within the bounds of reasonable discussion and defensible on their own merits.

Ignoring all other components of the incident which preluded my remarks, I openly admit that my comments were not representative of the philosophy guiding and informing the show. When I reflect back on what was said, it's not the content, theme or approach that I'd like to represent the show. I apologise for my remarks regarding Reginald and acknowledge that they are not defensible as appropriate behaviour.


I'm not sure how the segment you bolded shows a lack of sincerity...
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 11 2014 03:51 GMT
#1512
I am sorry. I meant that was no apology at all.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 11 2014 03:52 GMT
#1513
Thorin as professional as ever
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
June 11 2014 03:53 GMT
#1514
On June 11 2014 12:51 Sufficiency wrote:
I am sorry. I meant that was no apology at all.


He explicitly apologises at the end of the entire message.
Teamwork is awesome... As long as your team is doing all the work!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 04:04:39
June 11 2014 04:04 GMT
#1515
On June 11 2014 12:52 Nos- wrote:
Thorin as professional as ever

I would suggest watching the newest SI with Candypanda, thorin addresses professionalism in regards to this drama.
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
June 11 2014 04:05 GMT
#1516
On June 11 2014 13:04 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:52 Nos- wrote:
Thorin as professional as ever

I would suggest watching the newest SI with Candypanda, thorin addresses professionalism in regards to this drama.

Does he actually address it?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 11 2014 04:09 GMT
#1517
On June 11 2014 12:53 Nemireck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:51 Sufficiency wrote:
I am sorry. I meant that was no apology at all.


He explicitly apologises at the end of the entire message.


Uh no. He did not actually apologize.

Look. Originally, he may have made a remark that called regi a monkey. It was not word by word, but it was implied.

His apology is saying YES I DID CALL YOU A MONKEY AND IT WAS WRONG BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CONTROL OVER YOUR APPEARANCE.

See what I am getting at? There is no way regi will accept it, so TSM won't work with ongamers in the foreseeable future.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
June 11 2014 04:11 GMT
#1518
finally a quinn skin worth buying hue. was odd to be a quinn main with no skin
BW -> League -> CSGO
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
June 11 2014 04:13 GMT
#1519
On June 11 2014 13:11 wussleeQ wrote:
finally a quinn skin worth buying hue. was odd to be a quinn main with no skin

That was my same plight with being a Darius main. I didn't like any of his skins until the Woad King came out. Was a bit of a weird situation having no skin for the character that you use the most.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
June 11 2014 04:21 GMT
#1520
Bioforge Darius, best Darius.
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