EPT[Patch 4.6] Twitch VU General Discussion - Page 2
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On April 22 2014 06:46 imBLIND wrote: Its not like rumble and gragas are going to become playable in the new top lane though...rumble is pretty ignite dependent and gragas laning is at a weird place. idk why that's a problem, makes it even easier to kill people if they default to tp. pretty sure Balls can make Rumble work, as well  . | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
but new Twitch is so much better. One of my fav champs. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 22 2014 06:51 AsnSensation wrote: idk why that's a problem, makes it even easier to kill people if they default to tp. pretty sure Balls can make Rumble work, as well . teleport rumble real terror though. teleport, land R, receive free dragon. actually with new dangerzone shield, probably don't even need to run teleport. Dangerzone shield speed boost down to midlane, launch R from midlane at dragon, receive free dragon. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On April 22 2014 06:37 dae wrote: Rather large kass/gragas/rumble buffs, but they were all underperforming so we shall see. Worried about Kass sneaking up and getting stupidly strong again though. He has the sort of kit where he's either winning hard or losing hard, it's kinda hard to be middle of the road. Heal might not be 100% better then barrier in every situation now. (Actually, it still is, riot...) I'm thinking this will just push heal/exhaust bots, and still having barrier no where to be found anymore (having mid/bot have 1 heal each, or just bot having a heal). IMO Heal will still be 100% better than barrier in all but extreme edge cases, it'll just make it so double heal bot is bad compared to heal/exhaust or heal/ignite. It doesn't solve the problem where Heal and Barrier are now so similar that no matter how they balance it one of them is going to be better than the other. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On April 22 2014 06:46 imBLIND wrote: Its not like rumble and gragas are going to become playable in the new top lane though...rumble is pretty ignite dependent and gragas laning is at a weird place. Its very easy to figure out how strong Rumble will be in lane, but "strong enough," i.e. if you can built a comp and playstyle around it in the current meta, is a different matter altogether and will take way more than 2 weeks to figure out. | ||
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TeeTS
Germany2762 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 22 2014 07:07 TeeTS wrote: Those Rumble buffs are pretty insignificant. Yes he gets a little bit more shield and movespeed in danger zone and he gets a bit more slow and a tiny bit more damage there. (the base damage of e-harpoon is so low, that +25% or +50% won´t make much of a difference). He will still lose his lane hard to Renekton and this is one of the main reasons, while he is not played right now. renekton bans are common, also 2v1 swaps actually dissuade a lot of renekton picks from teams now. picking renekton pretty much telegraphs they want standard 1v1, 2v2 lane set ups. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On April 22 2014 07:07 TeeTS wrote: Those Rumble buffs are pretty insignificant. Yes he gets a little bit more shield and movespeed in danger zone and he gets a bit more slow and a tiny bit more damage there. (the base damage of e-harpoon is so low, that +25% or +50% won´t make much of a difference). He will still lose his lane hard to Renekton and this is one of the main reasons, while he is not played right now. im convinced rumble is actually a good pick vs renekton, thing which fucks him over are ganks but 1v1 he is obnoxious as fuck | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35143 Posts
On April 22 2014 07:14 Navi wrote: Kass looks strong, at the very least for solo q. why aren't ppl playing him? The "Nerfed so useless, gg." mentality. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
more like "can't blow up 3 people jump out, and blow up the last 2 people, gg so shit". though with these shield buffs he'll be a solid bruising mage. Gunna be similar to ryze in endgame possibly. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
With the current meta, the focus is on mobility and survivablity -- not on crazy team fight potential. He's not exactly going to be able to 1v1 a splitpushing Jax/FF jungler unless extremely fed, and most champs have some kind of gap closer so they can just quickly get out of his ult anyways. He's going to have those niche cases where he gets picked, but I don't think he's going to outprioritize a shyvana, mundo, jax, or renekton, And yea you can run tele rumble, but I always thought that defeated the purpose of rumble...he's a bad split pusher in the sense that he can't efficiently 1v1 most AA dependent champs. He can go toe-to-toe with renekton if you know the match up, but I can't say the same for a late game jax or shyvana | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 22 2014 07:23 nafta wrote: Because he wasn't that good.Now that shield is just straight up retarded though. mean while viktor is sitting at his workbench sobbing a river of oil wondering why he can't figure out how to get more shield out of his power transfer. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
It also means that since it's instant, any spell with travel time that has around the same range as Kass' Q (or RQ post-6) will get eaten by a 0.8 AP scaling shield (and his 15% magic damage reduction passive). Good luck killing him with magic damage. On April 22 2014 06:35 NeoIllusions wrote: I highly disapprove of the renaming of Spray & Pray. Edit: The CN thing should be clarified in that the CN players actually play on KR servers so they're technically up to date. That said, it's a fucking atrocity that LPL is played on patches that are so far behind. Worst change in the patch. 2nd is buffing Rumble. Pretty highly, too. That's a 20% increase to the shield and Harpoons (y'know, the Harpoons that slow you for 90% at max level wat). Worst change not to have occurred is an actual Heal nerf, though. It's still going to outperfom Barrier in a bunch of situations just because of the MS buff. | ||
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