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On May 05 2014 06:44 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 06:42 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like the game would be more enjoyable if heal were just removed. it's a just a number thing. not enough, and barrier is the go to, too much and barrier is irrelevant. meanwhile cleanse is sitting in a corner crying.
RIP Fortify.
And CV.
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On May 05 2014 06:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:13 AlterKot wrote: I like the guy, but based on the footage we have he doesn't look on par with other NA toplaners. You probably started playing this game WAY after Westrice's heyday. I don't understand what you're saying. Is it that he used to be good back in the day (which I do remember by the way, been playing since 2010) so you think he has potential to be among NA's best or what? Because I'm judging him purely on last split performance.
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Watching the finals of this BR tournament, holy shit winged is the definition of big fish in a little pond. He's so much better than everyone including suno it's not even funny
On May 05 2014 06:47 Doctorbeat wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 06:44 wei2coolman wrote:On May 05 2014 06:42 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like the game would be more enjoyable if heal were just removed. it's a just a number thing. not enough, and barrier is the go to, too much and barrier is irrelevant. meanwhile cleanse is sitting in a corner crying. RIP Fortify. And CV. CV is still in the game? I legitimately forgot.
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On May 05 2014 06:49 Fusilero wrote:Watching the finals of this BR tournament, holy shit winged is the definition of big fish in a little pond. He's so much better than everyone including suno it's not even funny Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 06:47 Doctorbeat wrote:On May 05 2014 06:44 wei2coolman wrote:On May 05 2014 06:42 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like the game would be more enjoyable if heal were just removed. it's a just a number thing. not enough, and barrier is the go to, too much and barrier is irrelevant. meanwhile cleanse is sitting in a corner crying. RIP Fortify. And CV. CV is still in the game? I legitimately forgot.
Yeah it's that bad.
Remember when every support used it?
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On May 05 2014 06:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:13 AlterKot wrote: I like the guy, but based on the footage we have he doesn't look on par with other NA toplaners. You probably started playing this game WAY after Westrice's heyday. Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 04:48 GranDim wrote: Can someone fill me in on why they were thinking replacing xpecial was a good idea? At least oddone was the an obvious weak link, xpecial carried them to keep NA #2 spot like 2 weeks ago. Xpecial was 2nd best player on team behind bjerg... If he was 2nd best he wouldn't have been removed.How you affect your teammates is part of your skillset.The new support they got looked like garbage though hope he steps up.
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Yeah well you can say all of you want about xpecial getting worse there is no way in hell gleebkglakfzlkbu is better than him at the moment. But I guess Reginald thinks the change was needed in the long run.
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On May 05 2014 07:02 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 06:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On May 05 2014 04:13 AlterKot wrote: I like the guy, but based on the footage we have he doesn't look on par with other NA toplaners. You probably started playing this game WAY after Westrice's heyday. On May 05 2014 04:48 GranDim wrote: Can someone fill me in on why they were thinking replacing xpecial was a good idea? At least oddone was the an obvious weak link, xpecial carried them to keep NA #2 spot like 2 weeks ago. Xpecial was 2nd best player on team behind bjerg... If he was 2nd best he wouldn't have been removed.How you affect your teammates is part of your skillset.The new support they got looked like garbage though hope he steps up. i'm guessing tsm saw some potential in gleeb.
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well lee and thresh why not but yeah lucian is boring, why are there 2 adcs in each team ?
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it was not specific it was just vote 5 champions
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meh I see, the lack of teemo is disappointing
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Played against Quas as Singed. He was Swain. It was painful. I started proxying too late and got wrecked.
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On May 05 2014 08:15 GolemMadness wrote: Played against Quas as Singed. He was Swain. It was painful. I started proxying too late and got wrecked. Singed just feels so damn weak right now. Before he used to be an unkillable jerk that actually did damage. Now he feels pretty squishy, and does no damage. His laning phase is actually pretty good though, being able to fling opponents into your minion wave early on is extremely powerful
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That sucks Golem, you played against Quas's main champion before he joined Curse
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i played ryze top vs swain and it was soooooo hard(even worse cuz i locked tp and went afk before I saw its swain top), next time somebody picks ryze i will try swain as a counter
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On May 05 2014 08:23 MooMooMugi wrote: That sucks Golem, you played against Quas's main champion before he joined Curse
Speaking of whom, I wonder if anyone even bothered to try playing Swain when Heal removed healing debuff? Was he a god?
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On May 05 2014 08:40 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 08:23 MooMooMugi wrote: That sucks Golem, you played against Quas's main champion before he joined Curse Speaking of whom, I wonder if anyone even bothered to try playing Swain when Heal removed healing debuff? Was he a god?
Heal still removes healing debuffs?
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Considering how most comps are poke/disengage oriented his low range would still be a problem.
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Plus he's still "Oh you can't faceroll the wave then go afk for 30s? Guess you'll weep under your tower then". He doesn't exactly like LeBlanc (because of her silence and the way his Q works she can easily either bait his ult (you have to cast it early so it's on when she silences you and you mitigate some damage) or dodge a good part of his damage), Nidalee (post-6, she can't exactly shove him anyway since that requires cougar form) or Ziggs (at least he doesn't have 75 range advantage anymore, but you still won't ever get close to him if he's decent).
Having to hit W to be able to trade with most other mages when it's only 800 range with 0.8s delay on activation is pretty damn brutal in terms of being outranged (basically any champion with a 900 range AoE spell can more or less ignore him). In teamfights you're susceptible to burst, to poke, and you can get brutally kited once your cooldowns are used (Q is broken easily, esp. with defensive dashes, W has a long cd if maxed last or it makes Q ignorable if maxed second). In the late game you're a ~600 range mage (less than most ranged carries' autoattacks) who has to devote some slots to defensive itemisation (like Banshee or SV over Abyssal) while getting boned by Banshee's himself because of his kit.
The meta's been brutal for him for ages now, even if he's able to snowball pretty hard in the hands of a competent player and given an early lead (Torment hurts with the %damage amp).
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On May 05 2014 08:41 zodde wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2014 08:40 Sufficiency wrote:On May 05 2014 08:23 MooMooMugi wrote: That sucks Golem, you played against Quas's main champion before he joined Curse Speaking of whom, I wonder if anyone even bothered to try playing Swain when Heal removed healing debuff? Was he a god? Heal still removes healing debuffs?
Wait. It does?!?!
WTF
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