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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On May 05 2014 05:26 Fusilero wrote: Given lomoQ's record with laneswaps I'm semi-convinced that lomoQ would find a way to die in a 4v0. lol the one time I ever agreed to lane swap in s3 my "bot lane" got double killed by the standard 3 min gank top | ||
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:49 wei2coolman wrote: Xpecial was because of attitude problem. TOO because of performance issues (although, i don't think it was made clear whether or not it was management choice.) wut? Why would xpecial be giving a tryout for his own spot if he's leaving due to attidute? | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On May 05 2014 05:10 wei2coolman wrote: feral flare is not an issue. if you can't fucking pick an early game jungler and punish a guy for afk farming for the first 15 minutes of the game, that's on you, not cuz of feral flare. amen to soraka doe, fuck cancer heals. pretty sure every top jungler said that feral flare is broken | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On May 05 2014 05:49 GranDim wrote: Why would xpecial be giving a tryout for his own spot if he's leaving due to attidute? To check whether he can use constructive criticism instead of passive-aggressiveness at least when he knows his spot on the team is on the line? To check whether he's so much better than the other guy that his attitude doesn't even matter? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 05 2014 05:51 kongoline wrote: pretty sure every top jungler said that feral flare is broken lol, no. maybe it's initial iteration that only required 25 stacks was a bit over tuned. currently it's actually not that great. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On May 05 2014 05:53 wei2coolman wrote: lol, no. maybe it's initial iteration that only required 25 stacks was a bit over tuned. currently it's actually not that great. lol champions like udyr, shyv, noc or yi can still get to max stacks in 12-15minutes, its not only dmg but the fact it gives shit ton of gold and makes clear speed ultra fast which allows junglers to out-level and gain more gold than laners without problems laners have, so naturally weak laners but hypercarries late game like yi or jax can jsut sit and farm their items | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 05 2014 05:55 Slusher wrote: barring uncapped stacks becoming problematic the live version is a Strong item, don't know if I would say OP, now if your game goes 50 min (which solo q can do) then lol games regularly go like 30-40 minutes it feels like. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 05 2014 05:57 kongoline wrote: lol champions like udyr, shyv, noc or yi can still get to max stacks in 12-15minutes, its not only dmg but the fact it gives shit ton of gold and makes clear speed ultra fast which allows junglers to out-level and gain more gold than laners without problems laners have, so naturally weak laners but hypercarries late game like yi or jax can jsut sit and farm their items all while being away from their team for 15 minutes. Depends how much you value 5v4ing the first 15 minutes of the game. If you're playing a champ that can't early gank, and doesn't build feral flare, then yeah, you're shit out of luck. On May 05 2014 05:55 Slusher wrote: barring uncapped stacks becoming problematic the live version is a Strong item, don't know if I would say OP, now if your game goes 50 min (which solo q can do) then lol It's also just as likely for games to be stomps, there plenty of games where the feral flare only team gets shit stomped early on, and even 30 minutes into the game, they still can't get their feral flare stacked because they have no control of their jungle, and their lanes are trying to scrape by taking jungle farm. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 05 2014 06:05 cLutZ wrote: FF's problem is that it didn't help Maokai and Maokai-like junglers, which are the ones that actually need help... Well, you can't deny that FF widened up the jungle pool as well, with stuff like Twitch, Yi, Shyv, Jax, and more Noc. It was nice step forward for jungle pool. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 05 2014 06:08 wei2coolman wrote: Well, you can't deny that FF widened up the jungle pool as well, with stuff like Twitch, Yi, Shyv, Jax, and more Noc. It was nice step forward for jungle pool. Certainly it did aid those junglers, but I think it made them viable in an unsustainable fashion (which we are seeing as a result of the nerfs). Part of it is because it caused a huge schism between Pro play and SoloQ, and part of it because the item was so strong that it let priority 4 champions beat priority 1-3 champions in duels, which caused unteneble splitpush advantages. I.E., its fine if your toplane Jax requires my Toplane to stop, but not really fine when your jungle Jax does, unless that jungle Jax is actually a priority 3 champion (but thats not what FF does). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
I would say more FF jungle does end up being priority 3 champs, difference is they're giving up jungle farm to the jungler, rather than laners past the midgame. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
I've been playing solo q again and it feels fine. Soraka is pretty toxic but if you have her banned, summoner Heal isn't that bad. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 05 2014 06:42 GolemMadness wrote: I feel like the game would be more enjoyable if heal were just removed. it's a just a number thing. not enough, and barrier is the go to, too much and barrier is irrelevant. meanwhile cleanse is sitting in a corner crying. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On May 05 2014 04:13 AlterKot wrote: I like the guy, but based on the footage we have he doesn't look on par with other NA toplaners. You probably started playing this game WAY after Westrice's heyday. On May 05 2014 04:48 GranDim wrote: Can someone fill me in on why they were thinking replacing xpecial was a good idea? At least oddone was the an obvious weak link, xpecial carried them to keep NA #2 spot like 2 weeks ago. Xpecial was 2nd best player on team behind bjerg... | ||
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