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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 07 2014 15:49 GMT
#701
What's stupid about it? You don't get to press a button?

It's a pretty unique mechanic that is both powerful and fair. It's the last thing I would change on Warwick.

Also I don't watch much EU LCS but didn't Darien play Warwick with some success recently?
I am the Town Medic.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 07 2014 15:51 GMT
#702
I would change it to being something where you have to press a button, yes

Probably if I reworked Warwick I'd combine his W and E to be the same skill with both effects, and then give him some new ability, likely a gapcloser of some sort.

But I am not Rita, who knows what they will do.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
April 07 2014 15:55 GMT
#703
On April 08 2014 00:51 Ketara wrote:
I would change it to being something where you have to press a button, yes

Probably if I reworked Warwick I'd combine his W and E to be the same skill with both effects, and then give him some new ability, likely a gapcloser of some sort.

But I am not Rita, who knows what they will do.


Coulda fooled me.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 07 2014 16:06 GMT
#704
Different topic entirely. It took about two weeks for me to get from Gold II to Diamond V, but I think I can keep climbing a ways yet. At what point do you think I would start occasionally playing with pros? D5 games often have up to D3s in them, so if that's linear in D3 you'd face D1s sometimes?

I find the idea of playing with pros really cool. Best I've had so far were Salce on the old Twisted Treeline and Trick2g in a random ranked game.
I am the Town Medic.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 07 2014 16:08 GMT
#705
On April 08 2014 01:06 Alzadar wrote:
Different topic entirely. It took about two weeks for me to get from Gold II to Diamond V, but I think I can keep climbing a ways yet. At what point do you think I would start occasionally playing with pros? D5 games often have up to D3s in them, so if that's linear in D3 you'd face D1s sometimes?

I find the idea of playing with pros really cool. Best I've had so far were Salce on the old Twisted Treeline and Trick2g in a random ranked game.

i got up to diamond 3, never played vs. anyone famous. I don't think you'll play against any actual pros until at least mid diamond 1, and even then it's probably only at non-peak hours where there's not a lot of pros on for them to get matched with each other.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
April 07 2014 16:34 GMT
#706
So, how is wriggles on lee sin now? I like to pretend I'm Dandy and gank nonstop but people keep telling me the item is broken
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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
April 07 2014 16:36 GMT
#707
On April 08 2014 01:08 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 01:06 Alzadar wrote:
Different topic entirely. It took about two weeks for me to get from Gold II to Diamond V, but I think I can keep climbing a ways yet. At what point do you think I would start occasionally playing with pros? D5 games often have up to D3s in them, so if that's linear in D3 you'd face D1s sometimes?

I find the idea of playing with pros really cool. Best I've had so far were Salce on the old Twisted Treeline and Trick2g in a random ranked game.

i got up to diamond 3, never played vs. anyone famous. I don't think you'll play against any actual pros until at least mid diamond 1, and even then it's probably only at non-peak hours where there's not a lot of pros on for them to get matched with each other.


I think it depends on what you mean by "pro". All the guys you see on LCS have challenger-ish MMR so you meet them in high D1 but if you want to play with Sirhcez, trick2g or Dan Dinh then fifty points is about right. I know phantomlord was having a real hard time even hitting D1 this season, though Im not sure where he is now since i don't watch him.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
April 07 2014 16:38 GMT
#708
What would be cool is to have howl turn into an aoe fear. Makes sense with his theme (he's a werewolf hunting for blood, that's pretty scary). His ult is kinda pointless these days, when there are people who just have straight up better ones. Instead of stunning himself, maybe doing one claw attack to suppress the enemy while he can still move around.
The bigger thing I find problematic is the focus on aa for warwick when his ult is the only way to jump onto people and he's a melee with no other cc.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 07 2014 17:02 GMT
#709
On April 08 2014 01:38 Dark_Chill wrote:
What would be cool is to have howl turn into an aoe fear. Makes sense with his theme (he's a werewolf hunting for blood, that's pretty scary). His ult is kinda pointless these days, when there are people who just have straight up better ones. Instead of stunning himself, maybe doing one claw attack to suppress the enemy while he can still move around.
The bigger thing I find problematic is the focus on aa for warwick when his ult is the only way to jump onto people and he's a melee with no other cc.


Who has a spell that is straight up better than an instant cast 700 range suppress + blink?
I am the Town Medic.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 07 2014 17:05 GMT
#710
Wind wall? I dunno.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 07 2014 17:06 GMT
#711
On April 08 2014 02:02 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 01:38 Dark_Chill wrote:
What would be cool is to have howl turn into an aoe fear. Makes sense with his theme (he's a werewolf hunting for blood, that's pretty scary). His ult is kinda pointless these days, when there are people who just have straight up better ones. Instead of stunning himself, maybe doing one claw attack to suppress the enemy while he can still move around.
The bigger thing I find problematic is the focus on aa for warwick when his ult is the only way to jump onto people and he's a melee with no other cc.


Who has a spell that is straight up better than an instant cast 700 range suppress + blink?

How about a 725 range dash that knocks back, followed by a 800 range linear AoE knockup, backed up with % max target HP damage and % max HP self-shield?
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 07 2014 17:12 GMT
#712
I am skeptical that Riot will give WW another CC, even a slow.

Based on the information available, I'd guess:

Passive: something which stacks up after each auto against champion and or spells. Each stack gives WW more healing bonus , as/ms, and or damage.
Q: scales with AD instead of AP. Or hybrid ratios.
W: probably turning into an aoe spell that does damage and gain stacks.
E: same as before.
R: more or less the same.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 07 2014 17:13 GMT
#713
On April 08 2014 02:06 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:02 Alzadar wrote:
On April 08 2014 01:38 Dark_Chill wrote:
What would be cool is to have howl turn into an aoe fear. Makes sense with his theme (he's a werewolf hunting for blood, that's pretty scary). His ult is kinda pointless these days, when there are people who just have straight up better ones. Instead of stunning himself, maybe doing one claw attack to suppress the enemy while he can still move around.
The bigger thing I find problematic is the focus on aa for warwick when his ult is the only way to jump onto people and he's a melee with no other cc.


Who has a spell that is straight up better than an instant cast 700 range suppress + blink?

How about a 725 range dash that knocks back, followed by a 800 range linear AoE knockup, backed up with % max target HP damage and % max HP self-shield?


Vi is quite good (obviously). But instantaneous CC has a lot of value, and Assault and Battery is certainly not straight up better than Infinite Duress.
I am the Town Medic.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 17:25:25
April 07 2014 17:23 GMT
#714
infinite duress is super strong, and i'm even ok with the fact that ww suppresses himself because i find the ult animation hilariously lazy

what people generally take issue with is that there isn't a whole lot of nuance to playing him apart from using his ult - while 'stick to squishies and press buttons on cooldown' is a complaint that can be pretty widely applied, his q is the only non-ult skill that -feels- impactful (to use riot language - recall that a similar argument was made for removing draven's bleed, regardless of its power), which sort of puts him in his own tier of blandness in addition to reflecting basic kit issues

the issues articulated above aren't quite my own thoughts on the matter, but it's how i understand the reasoning for why ww merits looking at
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
April 07 2014 17:27 GMT
#715
They should delete Warwick and replace him with a sheep champion :3
TranslatorBaa!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 07 2014 17:29 GMT
#716
On April 08 2014 02:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
They should delete Warwick and replace him with a sheep champion :3


It's actually surprising there's no Wolf in Sheep's Clothing skin for Warwick.
I am the Town Medic.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 07 2014 17:30 GMT
#717
Maybe something like:

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[image loading]
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 07 2014 17:35 GMT
#718
ROFL
God Bless
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
April 07 2014 17:35 GMT
#719
On April 08 2014 02:29 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:27 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
They should delete Warwick and replace him with a sheep champion :3


It's actually surprising there's no Wolf in Sheep's Clothing skin for Warwick.


Why not...
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[image loading]
TranslatorBaa!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 07 2014 18:21 GMT
#720
On April 08 2014 02:13 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:06 xes wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:02 Alzadar wrote:
On April 08 2014 01:38 Dark_Chill wrote:
What would be cool is to have howl turn into an aoe fear. Makes sense with his theme (he's a werewolf hunting for blood, that's pretty scary). His ult is kinda pointless these days, when there are people who just have straight up better ones. Instead of stunning himself, maybe doing one claw attack to suppress the enemy while he can still move around.
The bigger thing I find problematic is the focus on aa for warwick when his ult is the only way to jump onto people and he's a melee with no other cc.


Who has a spell that is straight up better than an instant cast 700 range suppress + blink?

How about a 725 range dash that knocks back, followed by a 800 range linear AoE knockup, backed up with % max target HP damage and % max HP self-shield?


Vi is quite good (obviously). But instantaneous CC has a lot of value, and Assault and Battery is certainly not straight up better than Infinite Duress.

It is straight up better lol, she cant be stopped while casting, it does similar damage without locking you in place, and it knocks and damages anything in your way back lol.

i dont see how thats not straight up better
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