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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 07 2014 21:16 GMT
#741
On April 08 2014 05:38 Ketara wrote:
If that's true it's never happened to me over several hundred Lissandra games.

Had it. Annoying (target flashed away, so he was the only one to take the damage and with my E on cd I couldn't reach W range before he ran since the cc only lasts 1.5s).

I also find her hard to combo with if you can't E in really close because all of her spells have different ranges.
I think it's DFG -> Q -> ult -> W.
Since you want to start with ult to combo the rest, the important part is that ult range > W range so if you cast from max range you have to walk in W range to combo the cc before the stun wears off, which makes you wait before you can Q too.
I've also had my DFG consistently not cast in a E->DFG->ult combo, but DFG has more range... so I assume if I press both really fast her ult will for some reason cancel the DFG cast. So I just fail to assassinate people. ._.

(Then again maybe I should just build deathcap over zhonya then E into fights and ult myself.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
April 07 2014 21:20 GMT
#742
anyone been playing post rework gragas I think he could use a few buffs and a fix to make his e work better but I have been building him top with iceborn tank build and hes not bad.
Moar banelings less qq
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 07 2014 21:26 GMT
#743
Speaking of skills with different ranges, it's the most infuriating thing on Malzahar.

Malefic Visions 650 range.
Nether Grasp 700 range.

Whyyyyy... Happens all the time, I'm trying to get rotation off as fast as possible so if I'm slightly out of E range but within R range the E just won't be cast.

It would almost be a buff if they reduced R range to 650.
I am the Town Medic.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 07 2014 22:20 GMT
#744
What is so bad about casting E after R finishes?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 07 2014 22:25 GMT
#745
On April 08 2014 07:20 Sufficiency wrote:
What is so bad about casting E after R finishes?

Misses out on a lot of damage, plus they oftentimes have their dashes up by the time the ult ends so they get out before you cast it. It's just very clunky in general, is the issue.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
April 07 2014 22:29 GMT
#746
Yeah my game lagging again, pretty sick of this shit.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 22:40:52
April 07 2014 22:32 GMT
#747
Next part of the "When gamers lack balls" saga.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22gpg1/clarification_about_pax_prime_cognitive_stuff/

Edit: Just re-read it, says not shit really. Further lacking of balls.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 07 2014 22:54 GMT
#748
--- Nuked ---
jaymik
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)425 Posts
April 07 2014 22:57 GMT
#749
udyr/tf decent candidates for ms quints
jaymik kr/na
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 07 2014 22:59 GMT
#750
On April 08 2014 07:54 krndandaman wrote:
whats the general consensus on movespeed quints?
I remember when it used to be one of the best quints along with AD/Lifesteal/AP but I don't feel like it is as good lately.
Half my rune pages (12) used to have movementspeed quints but now only 1 does.

any thoughts on it and what champions still utilize it alot?
only one I can think of is ryze atm.


I still have one page of the old jungle runes (AS/Armor/Scaling MR/MS) and I think I last used them Season 3. Earlier combat stats in the jungle seems to be the way to go. Not sure about the other roles.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
April 07 2014 23:05 GMT
#751
I use movespeed quints on Mundo. Amumu is another good candidate.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 23:14:18
April 07 2014 23:14 GMT
#752
Singed always uses movespeed quints. I sometimes run them on Nasus and Mundo as well. Hecarim often uses them.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
April 07 2014 23:15 GMT
#753
On April 08 2014 07:32 Diamond wrote:
Next part of the "When gamers lack balls" saga.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22gpg1/clarification_about_pax_prime_cognitive_stuff/

Edit: Just re-read it, says not shit really. Further lacking of balls.


This is one of the top 5 just strangest e-sport stories I can remember.

Hilariously I think basically everyone is to blame. The manager, for not using common sense, Valkyn for not speaking up at any point, and Rapid for showing up basically not being able to read the cues of everyone around him

As much as e-sports has grown, I try to think of what a sportscentre segment on this story would have been like and it is just so hard to picture. Small steps...
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 23:20:09
April 07 2014 23:19 GMT
#754
Did he just fucking excuse himself "well I was in FGC before and it's usual to sleep few people in one room/bed there and don't expect people to read your mind, speak up".

The player specifically said that it was such a shocking and bizarre situation that he didn't know how to react first night and the second night they told the guy to not sleep at their room and he still did by getting the keycard from lobby desk. And now reddit is saying that it's both of those guys fault. I just... Wow.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 07 2014 23:22 GMT
#755
On April 08 2014 08:19 AlterKot wrote:
Did he just fucking excuse himself "well I was in FGC before and it's usual to sleep few people in one room/bed there and don't expect people to read your mind, speak up".

The player specifically said that it was such a shocking and bizarre situation that he didn't know how to react first night and the second night they told the guy to not sleep at their room and he still did by getting the keycard from lobby desk. And now reddit is saying that it's both of those guys fault. I just... Wow.


From what I understand, he's saying that he was actually told he could stay there the last night, and that he slept somewhere other than the bed. Who knows. Weird stuff.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
April 07 2014 23:28 GMT
#756
On April 08 2014 08:19 AlterKot wrote:
Did he just fucking excuse himself "well I was in FGC before and it's usual to sleep few people in one room/bed there and don't expect people to read your mind, speak up".

The player specifically said that it was such a shocking and bizarre situation that he didn't know how to react first night and the second night they told the guy to not sleep at their room and he still did by getting the keycard from lobby desk. And now reddit is saying that it's both of those guys fault. I just... Wow.


considering this story has been over and done with before Richard decided to dig it up and do a smear job on Rapid, frankly I couldn't care less.

Frankly everyone had already agreed that the manager was an idiot and that valkryn should have said something if it was such a problem. Why must we discuss this same shit again?

According to Rapid he had not received any "negative feedback" and if i remember the initial Reddit thread right (it has been deleted at some point) the Cog midlaner actually backed that up (he said something like "I didn't think anyone had a problem with him").
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 23:29:12
April 07 2014 23:28 GMT
#757
Yeah OK I guess I shouldn't blindly trust the player either. The thread still pisses me off though.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 23:51:22
April 07 2014 23:35 GMT
#758
If you don't like my analysis look away.

+ Show Spoiler +

I am very disappointed at the champion synergy analyses.
[image loading]
While it seems to suggest Soraka has high synergy with Thresh/Morgana/Leona, I am almost 100% sure this is due to top/mid Soraka that performs better than support Soraka. On the other hand, low synergy pairs were almost universally about two ADCs - while this is is what I expect, it's not very interesting.

In any case, it looks like a failure to me. I think the biggest reason for failure is that the a lot of the combinations are in fact, very rare. This is quite a bit different from analyzing counters.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-08 00:53:27
April 08 2014 00:51 GMT
#759
On April 08 2014 08:15 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 07:32 Diamond wrote:
Next part of the "When gamers lack balls" saga.

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/22gpg1/clarification_about_pax_prime_cognitive_stuff/

Edit: Just re-read it, says not shit really. Further lacking of balls.


This is one of the top 5 just strangest e-sport stories I can remember.

Hilariously I think basically everyone is to blame. The manager, for not using common sense, Valkyn for not speaking up at any point, and Rapid for showing up basically not being able to read the cues of everyone around him

As much as e-sports has grown, I try to think of what a sportscentre segment on this story would have been like and it is just so hard to picture. Small steps...



I mean, I'd rather see this on sportscenter than stories about players murdering people (Aaron Hernandez), punching their fiancees unconscious and dragging them out of a hotel elevator (Ray Rice), setting their employees on fire (Ugueth Urbina), a commentator/former player raping 9+ women (Darren Sharper), or killing their girlfriend (Oscar Pistorious).

It'd be much better if a complete lack of social skills was the top drama-related story on sportscenter.

And I agree that everyone is at fault with that story. I wish Richard had let it die, there's got to be more interesting stuff that's happened since then.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-08 01:44:00
April 08 2014 01:08 GMT
#760
Kayle vs Ryze Top Lane


TL pls halp. im Kayle


AFK push and make him miss CS/go oom?


nvm
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
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