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YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
March 28 2014 13:59 GMT
#2041
Holy moly that was a sweet play by Snoopeh, survives the ignite from the passive health gain on kill.. He is so stoked from it too, what a boss.
I got nothin'...
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 28 2014 14:10 GMT
#2042
http://euw.lolesports.com/articles/sk-gambit-update
SK vs gambit to be replayed due to the aatrox bug
Glorious SEA doto
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 28 2014 14:17 GMT
#2043
On March 28 2014 22:55 Bam Lee wrote:
Is there any point in going for the flat CDR glyphs instead of scaling ones after the rune changes? having 15% CDR in the late game is pretty fucking huge. And since the breakeven point is at lvl 9 when most champs have their main spell on level 5, i dont really see any point in going flat unless i really need a little bit of CDR in the beginning. But i cant think of a champ that really needs it


Manaless champions like Renekton/Riven/Rengar might like flat CDR for early game bullying. Remains to be seen whether or not that will be stronger than other runes though.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
March 28 2014 14:50 GMT
#2044
On March 28 2014 11:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
[image loading]


How did nobody comment on this, this graph is comedic genius.
I am the Town Medic.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 15:37:46
March 28 2014 15:01 GMT
#2045
On March 28 2014 23:50 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 11:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
[image loading]


How did nobody comment on this, this graph is comedic genius.

yeah it's hilarious, really ties together the whole stats discussion that i thought had good points being made on both sides

though no matter what the numbers say, ahri will always be viable in my heart
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
March 28 2014 15:32 GMT
#2046
Beyond the axes ranges being weird, there's nothing explicitly wrong with it.
Trust in Bayes.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
March 28 2014 15:38 GMT
#2047
What about the axes being labelled "General" and "LCS"?
I am the Town Medic.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 28 2014 15:48 GMT
#2048
I think the game should not be remade, because the bug was minor and not Gambit's fault (as far as I know)
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 28 2014 15:52 GMT
#2049
Its irrelevant whether it should be remade because if the game was to be remade it would have to have been right there and then. Having a system where a remake can happen after the game's already included is just incompetence and a precedent that's ripe for abuse.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 28 2014 15:53 GMT
#2050
On March 29 2014 00:52 Kupon3ss wrote:
Its irrelevant whether it should be remade because if the game was to be remade it would have to have been right there and then. Having a system where a remake can happen after the game's already included is just incompetence and a precedent that's ripe for abuse.

They didn't remake the game where Saint claimed Tibbers was bugged and didn't come out when he casted it. If anything this has proven they need actual proof of the bug and won't go just by the player's word.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 28 2014 15:57 GMT
#2051
On March 29 2014 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 00:52 Kupon3ss wrote:
Its irrelevant whether it should be remade because if the game was to be remade it would have to have been right there and then. Having a system where a remake can happen after the game's already included is just incompetence and a precedent that's ripe for abuse.

They didn't remake the game where Saint claimed Tibbers was bugged and didn't come out when he casted it. If anything this has proven they need actual proof of the bug and won't go just by the player's word.

Was still a retarded decision though.Remake should've been made instantly after the bug was seen or never at all.Also just throwing it out there but it isn't some new undiscovered bug or anything.Aatrox could've been disabled if it was considered that big of a problem.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 16:00:21
March 28 2014 15:57 GMT
#2052
On March 29 2014 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 00:52 Kupon3ss wrote:
Its irrelevant whether it should be remade because if the game was to be remade it would have to have been right there and then. Having a system where a remake can happen after the game's already included is just incompetence and a precedent that's ripe for abuse.

They didn't remake the game where Saint claimed Tibbers was bugged and didn't come out when he casted it. If anything this has proven they need actual proof of the bug and won't go just by the player's word.


There have been various cases of bugs in games and riot has never before forced a remake. The Saint one was just one of the more recent vocal ones. We even have the pause at the start of the game by Freddy which suggests they knew the whole time about it but did nothing until now. If you want a remake you do it on the spot at x minutes(Think it was before 10?) not a day later.

To give you an example. Thresh still seems to be bugged where his flay sometimes doesn't knockback yet isn't disabled and has impacted games more than Aatrox one did last night
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#2053
Not agreeing with the remake, I just don't think the system is as ripe for abuse as it was implied.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#2054
On March 29 2014 00:38 Alzadar wrote:
What about the axes being labelled "General" and "LCS"?


The graph is a scatter plot of champions picked at least three times in the lcs. It's shows the solo queue win rate on one side and the lcs win rate on the other.

The line in the middle is a 45 degree line showing where a champion would be if they were the same power in lcs as soloqueue. If a champion is on the left side of the line it means they are better in solo queue than lcs (it means that their solo queue win rate is above their lcs win rare) and if on the right side the opposite.

The only thing it doesn't do is explain how much variance there potentially is in lcs win rates.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 28 2014 16:01 GMT
#2055
Can we also replay the NIP games? It is very apparent that Zozozero could not connect to the tournament realm due to a known bug from Riot.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 16:06:32
March 28 2014 16:02 GMT
#2056
On March 29 2014 01:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Not agreeing with the remake, I just don't think the system is as ripe for abuse as it was implied.


Well now anytime there is a bug teams can just whine about not getting a remake. Also here is the offical Riot LCS rules:

8.3.3 Finality of Judgment. If a referee makes an incorrect judgment during a
match, the judgment cannot be reversed, as the decision of the referee
is absolute and final and there is no appeal process.

So they are directly contradicting a rule here are they not? There is no mention at all of offering teams remakes from what i can gather. Seems like it's just made up on the spot

Download rulebook at http://euw.lolesports.com/about#tabs=3
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 16:05:48
March 28 2014 16:05 GMT
#2057
It's obviously part of the EU sanctions against Russia for its actions in the Crimean crisis~
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 28 2014 16:06 GMT
#2058
On March 29 2014 01:02 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 01:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Not agreeing with the remake, I just don't think the system is as ripe for abuse as it was implied.


Well now anytime there is a bug teams can just whine about not getting a remake. Also here is the offical Riot LCS rules:

8.3.3 Finality of Judgment. If a referee makes an incorrect judgment during a
match, the judgment cannot be reversed, as the decision of the referee
is absolute and final and there is no appeal process.

So they are directly contradicting a rule here are they not?

Download rulebook at http://euw.lolesports.com/about#tabs=3



Go post it on reddit and start a shitstorm, man.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 16:07:57
March 28 2014 16:07 GMT
#2059
On March 29 2014 01:02 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 01:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Not agreeing with the remake, I just don't think the system is as ripe for abuse as it was implied.


Well now anytime there is a bug teams can just whine about not getting a remake. Also here is the offical Riot LCS rules:

8.3.3 Finality of Judgment. If a referee makes an incorrect judgment during a
match, the judgment cannot be reversed, as the decision of the referee
is absolute and final and there is no appeal process.

So they are directly contradicting a rule here are they not?

Download rulebook at http://euw.lolesports.com/about#tabs=3

We're just assuming that Freddy mentioned the bug during the pause and Riot let them keep playing, it's possible the pause was for something else. It's also possible they didn't realize until after the game was over.

But I should probably stop defending Riot because the cynic in my has taken over and a big part in why they are remaking this game is probably due to the multiple Reddit threads that were made regarding the bug. Those other examples you've mentioned often went unnoticed, but Riot probably felt like they needed to "make right" on this bug due to fan outcry. Hadn't thought about that until now.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 16:12:30
March 28 2014 16:08 GMT
#2060
On March 29 2014 01:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 01:02 Numy wrote:
On March 29 2014 01:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Not agreeing with the remake, I just don't think the system is as ripe for abuse as it was implied.


Well now anytime there is a bug teams can just whine about not getting a remake. Also here is the offical Riot LCS rules:

8.3.3 Finality of Judgment. If a referee makes an incorrect judgment during a
match, the judgment cannot be reversed, as the decision of the referee
is absolute and final and there is no appeal process.

So they are directly contradicting a rule here are they not?

Download rulebook at http://euw.lolesports.com/about#tabs=3



Go post it on reddit and start a shitstorm, man.


I started reading the reddit thread afterwards and someone did actually mention this. Riot claims that the referee has to inform the team of a remake possibility but didn't therefore it's fine to do this post game. The issue with this is I can't find anywhere in the rulebook saying that a ref has to inform the team nor is there any type of appeal for post game remakes. According to Alex SK didn't even ask for a remake post game either. So where are all these rules coming from and what exactly is going on.

On March 29 2014 01:07 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 01:02 Numy wrote:
On March 29 2014 01:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
Not agreeing with the remake, I just don't think the system is as ripe for abuse as it was implied.


Well now anytime there is a bug teams can just whine about not getting a remake. Also here is the offical Riot LCS rules:

8.3.3 Finality of Judgment. If a referee makes an incorrect judgment during a
match, the judgment cannot be reversed, as the decision of the referee
is absolute and final and there is no appeal process.

So they are directly contradicting a rule here are they not?

Download rulebook at http://euw.lolesports.com/about#tabs=3

We're just assuming that Freddy mentioned the bug during the pause and Riot let them keep playing, it's possible the pause was for something else. It's also possible they didn't realize until after the game was over.


No no they mentioned it. Look at the official statement:

Upon discovering the bug, the disadvantaged team correctly paused and identified the problem, which was easily visible and verifiable upon replay

Riot are saying that their rule is invalid since the ref didn't mention a remake to the player/team.

edit: Oh was just reminded of all the times that Shen ultis have randomly cancelled in the past.
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