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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 28 2014 05:50 GMT
#2001
On March 28 2014 14:47 Scip wrote:
I find sufficiency's statistic stuff fun and also somewhat useful. I often don't know how favourable/unfavourable lanes are and when the difference in winrate is pretty big it can indicate that.

At the same time, it's based off the winrate of the game, not the lane.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 05:51:10
March 28 2014 05:50 GMT
#2002
On March 28 2014 14:47 Scip wrote:
I find sufficiency's statistic stuff fun and also somewhat useful. I often don't know how favourable/unfavourable lanes are and when the difference in winrate is pretty big it can indicate that.


So do I, because they help us quantify intuitions, such as reset champions being pretty good at getting multikills. However, they're not really useful in the predictive sense, because we're using them in places where we already know the result. In the edge cases, we have this gem from Kuomintang, which is something I strongly agree with (as much as I would hate to agree with Gouminpong).

On March 28 2014 12:10 Goumindong wrote:
I mean lets not quibble, the ability to find "significant" effects in things that we have no reason to believe are significant is a problem.
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
March 28 2014 06:12 GMT
#2003
if you wanted to though couldn't you just brute force the issue through sheer sample size and only compare the same repeated team compositions on both sides, the only changing variable being a single champion on the opposing team?

killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 28 2014 06:20 GMT
#2004
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
March 28 2014 06:26 GMT
#2005
On March 28 2014 15:20 killerdog wrote:
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr


but what's your aram mmr?
:3
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 28 2014 06:32 GMT
#2006
On March 28 2014 14:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 14:47 Scip wrote:
I find sufficiency's statistic stuff fun and also somewhat useful. I often don't know how favourable/unfavourable lanes are and when the difference in winrate is pretty big it can indicate that.

At the same time, it's based off the winrate of the game, not the lane.

It's still decently closely related. I'm not saying it's 100% or so, but it helps.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 28 2014 06:33 GMT
#2007
On March 28 2014 15:26 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 15:20 killerdog wrote:
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr


but what's your aram mmr?

What actually happens if you win a ton of arams. Do you just start hitting "aram mains" who only have good champions or what?
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
March 28 2014 06:35 GMT
#2008
On March 28 2014 15:33 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 15:26 Eiii wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:20 killerdog wrote:
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr


but what's your aram mmr?

What actually happens if you win a ton of arams. Do you just start hitting "aram mains" who only have good champions or what?

yes definitely.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 28 2014 07:05 GMT
#2009
On March 28 2014 15:35 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 15:33 killerdog wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:26 Eiii wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:20 killerdog wrote:
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr


but what's your aram mmr?

What actually happens if you win a ton of arams. Do you just start hitting "aram mains" who only have good champions or what?

yes definitely.

Played against ARAM specific accounts where the only champs they own are poke champs (lux, ziggs, nidalee) and supports lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 07:13:49
March 28 2014 07:11 GMT
#2010
On March 28 2014 15:33 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 15:26 Eiii wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:20 killerdog wrote:
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr


but what's your aram mmr?

What actually happens if you win a ton of arams. Do you just start hitting "aram mains" who only have good champions or what?


You run into Rhux and OneBadBrad when you're on a team consisting of you and a bunch of silvers.

And they get Leblanc. And you almost win, but someone decides its a good idea to run into a Leblanc and 4 others 1v5. And then they steam roll you.

And then you have nightmares about the Leblanc lurking in the bushes 6 months later.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 28 2014 07:17 GMT
#2011
On March 28 2014 16:05 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 15:35 SagaZ wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:33 killerdog wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:26 Eiii wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:20 killerdog wrote:
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr


but what's your aram mmr?

What actually happens if you win a ton of arams. Do you just start hitting "aram mains" who only have good champions or what?

yes definitely.

Played against ARAM specific accounts where the only champs they own are poke champs (lux, ziggs, nidalee) and supports lol


A guy with Silver level strategy and mechanics isn't going to win versus a Diamond (or even a Plat) even if he has free first blood and the hardest counterpick possible. Same thing still applies in ARAM.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 28 2014 07:56 GMT
#2012
So I just played a game where a pretty farmed/fed support Donger 1v1'd a fed top Riven.

I don't even.
Retvrn to Forvms
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 28 2014 08:09 GMT
#2013
?
he shits on melee
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 28 2014 08:10 GMT
#2014
Well, first time I've seen him since his rework. Didn't know he was that strong.
Retvrn to Forvms
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#2015
He's always been strong when you try to fight his nest, it's just that now his E is actually usable and committing is harsher because of the beams (harder to sidestep while fighitng, plus you're in range since you dive him) and his missiles are better single-target if you can hit most of them.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 09:48:12
March 28 2014 09:47 GMT
#2016
On March 28 2014 05:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 05:18 Kyrie wrote:
i took precalc as a high school freshman, put me in coach

it seems that for alpha > .05, an overcompensating beta will create a charlie foxtrot of poorly fitted regressions when a simple montecristo simulation would have sufficed to reveal an inherent meta/data dissonance


Can we all pause a moment and talk about how amazing this post is?


fucking lol i didnt even notice the pun
my brain read montecarlo lol
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
March 28 2014 09:53 GMT
#2017
On March 28 2014 16:17 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 16:05 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:35 SagaZ wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:33 killerdog wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:26 Eiii wrote:
On March 28 2014 15:20 killerdog wrote:
Guys, guys

Riot lyte told me i have good normal mmr


but what's your aram mmr?

What actually happens if you win a ton of arams. Do you just start hitting "aram mains" who only have good champions or what?

yes definitely.

Played against ARAM specific accounts where the only champs they own are poke champs (lux, ziggs, nidalee) and supports lol


A guy with Silver level strategy and mechanics isn't going to win versus a Diamond (or even a Plat) even if he has free first blood and the hardest counterpick possible. Same thing still applies in ARAM.


Eh, ARAM can get pretty bad with team comps at times but yeah, dont think silvers would be able to do much with it vs diamonds

And seriously, this thread <3 bunch of bitching girls you all are :D
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 28 2014 10:02 GMT
#2018
Does anyone play Chogath anymore? What's the main thing that made him become so unpopular?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
March 28 2014 10:03 GMT
#2019
On March 28 2014 19:02 GolemMadness wrote:
Does anyone play Chogath anymore? What's the main thing that made him become so unpopular?

"Not mobile so he's useless."

You know the same thinking that made heavy skillshot champions fall out of favor for a while because "They do nothing if you miss."
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 28 2014 10:14 GMT
#2020
Also, in what lane would you even play Cho? I guess middle, he's pretty slow in jungle and his earlygame is pretty pathetic compared to the strongest junglers atm
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
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