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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
On March 29 2014 02:22 Ketara wrote: They should have just opened with the LCS rules and previous precedent instead of opening with "Well we were going to win the game anyway." It read as a little childish to me, when they didn't need that. They've got very good reasons to be against the ruling regardless of whether or not it was a one sided game. Would have been a good opportunity to take a moral high ground instead. But if they took the high ground Riot would have a 47% miss chance... | ||
lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On March 29 2014 02:22 Ketara wrote: They should have just opened with the LCS rules and previous precedent instead of opening with "Well we were going to win the game anyway." It read as a little childish to me, when they didn't need that. They've got very good reasons to be against the ruling regardless of whether or not it was a one sided game. Would have been a good opportunity to take a moral high ground instead. I don't think it could be read as "we were going to win anyway". It reads more like "here are all of the obvious conditions we created to win us the game, that would be negated due to a bug that had no obvious impact on the game, in a lane that lost anyway thus creating no disadvantage to the complaining party". | ||
Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On March 29 2014 02:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: But if they took the high ground Riot would have a 47% miss chance... You know Cheep, sometimes you're a pretty cool dude. | ||
YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On top of my head, I got: 1. Camera angle. This may particularly make skillshot reliant champions harder to play on the red side. 2. Global objective position. Basically the layout for Dragon/Baron. 3. Blue/red buff positions. This may affect the ganking pattern of junglers. 4. Draft order. Anything else? | ||
Kupon3ss
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On March 29 2014 03:23 Kupon3ss wrote: matchmaking algorithm favoring blue side ofc I actually heard it's the other way around - red side has slightly higher MMR to compensate for the blue side advantage. | ||
YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On March 29 2014 02:27 jcarlsoniv wrote: You're oversimplifying it. They explained the situation, and detailed how and why they believe that it had no outcome on the game. They then backed up their assessment with the rules/precedent. There's absolutely no need for moral high ground here. Riot is screwing them over, and they are responding to it. That being said, a less... callous communique would go a large way to giving eSports professional legitimacy. Another thing is the whole direct quote from Alex being written with contractions and short hand. Looks juvenile. | ||
jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 29 2014 03:26 iCanada wrote: That being said, a less... callous communique would go a large way to giving eSports professional legitimacy. Another thing is the whole direct quote from Alex being written with contractions and short hand. Looks juvenile. I will agree that the direct quote should have been cleaned up, but that's the only "unprofessional" thing I can see about the statement. If you're going to criticize any party of compromising the legitimacy of professional LoL, point the finger at Riot. | ||
Ketara
United States15065 Posts
We just think Gambits response could have been less inflammatory. What bugs me some is that they didn't NEED to make a response like that. They could have made a perfectly justified response without it. | ||
jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 29 2014 03:34 Ketara wrote: I don't think anybody here doesn't think Riot dropped the ball at this point. Gambit is in the right here. We just think Gambits response could have been less inflammatory. What bugs me some is that they didn't NEED to make a response like that. They could have made a perfectly justified response without it. And I disagree. But there's not much sense in arguing it further. I'll agree to disagree here. | ||
iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On March 29 2014 03:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: I will agree that the direct quote should have been cleaned up, but that's the only "unprofessional" thing I can see about the statement. If you're going to criticize any party of compromising the legitimacy of professional LoL, point the finger at Riot. No, even if they contest the ruling, and they dont like it... the tone shouldn't be "they done fucked up. Go make a stink on Reddit." The tone should be "this is what happened. This is what we believe. We are looking into the situation" Its a corporate press release with a serious (and only) main business partner about a controversial inter-company event. The fact that they feel the need to make emotionally charged pot shots just looks bad. Small professional touches as such make a huge difference. If Apple and one of their main component distributors had some sort of drama, I guarantee the press release would be "a mistake was made, we are investigating the cause of the problem and hope to find a solution." There would not be statements of blame or anything like that. Why are eSports corporations held to a lower standard than any other corporation? The only way for eSports to be legitimate is if this double standard is removed. | ||
Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 29 2014 03:43 iCanada wrote: No, even if they contest the ruling, and they dont like it... the tone shouldn't be "they done fucked up. Go make a stink on Reddit." The tone should be "this is what happened. This is what we believe. We are looking into the situation" Its a corporate press release with a serious (and only) main business partner about a controversial inter-company event. The fact that they feel the need to make emotionally charged pot shots just looks bad. Small professional touches as such make a huge difference. If Apple and one of their main component distributors had some sort of drama, I guarantee the press release would be "a mistake was made, we are investigating the cause of the problem and hope to find a solution." There would not be statements of blame or anything like that. Why are eSports corporations held to a lower standard than any other corporation? The only way for eSports to be legitimate is if this double standard is removed. See, but to me, it's more akin to the NBA going "The ref sneezed and missed a personal foul in the first period (quarter? idfk basketball), we will have them replay the quarterfinals of this tournament." It's just straight bullshit, and I would fully expect the negatively affected team to return some backlash. | ||
Ketara
United States15065 Posts
If they want to be professional about it they'd respond without the backlash no matter how severe it is. It's not like the people who watched the game don't know whether or not it was a stomp. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35118 Posts
On March 28 2014 23:17 Ketara wrote: Manaless champions like Renekton/Riven/Rengar might like flat CDR for early game bullying. Remains to be seen whether or not that will be stronger than other runes though. The timing would have to be so very specific and hinge on success that I doubt it. | ||
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