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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 12 2014 13:14 GMT
#461
On February 12 2014 22:03 killerdog wrote:
So apparently if pantheon places a ward, he turns invisible until he uses a skill.

How does that even happen >.>



He made a deal with c'thulu; he gets invisibility and c'thulu gets to eat all the tears and bodies from fallen summoners
hi
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
February 12 2014 13:37 GMT
#462
From what I see at Nightblue stream, Pantheon is disabled right now ?
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 12 2014 14:20 GMT
#463
On February 12 2014 22:37 739 wrote:
From what I see at Nightblue stream, Pantheon is disabled right now ?


They must be fixing that whole "he's invisible" bug that was mentioned earlier.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 14:27:01
February 12 2014 14:25 GMT
#464
On February 12 2014 16:48 JonGalt wrote:
@wei2coolman just gonna point out a couple things for you.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 04:56 Celial wrote:
Hey, I'm looking for new jungler to spam but just don't know which champion...

I want a champ that has the option to both hardcarry and be a tank (not at the same time, mind you). It needs to be outside of the current fotm meta though, I know that Vi would fit exactly that description but she is either banned or picked every game. I also want to be able to either outright beat or safely escape popular junglers. I prefer a more farm heavy playstyle, but want decent ganks (so Shyvana is out).

I played a lot of Olaf recently, but I feel that while I can stay a (minor) threat in lategame with true damage, I really cannot pick up a struggling team on my back and carry it. Even if I do VERY well for myself. Pantheon, Vi, Wukong, Khazix, Elise, Olaf... etc all FOTM that I don't want to play. I like to play champions that are very rarely popular but still insanely strong (and do well even when behind), just like my favorite support Karma. Any ideas?


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 06:10 Celial wrote:
Yeah but I'm by far not good enough at the game to switch seamlessly between different champions and perform well. Also, I mostly play duo queue nowadays as Karma support with my ADC buddy, so I don't get much practice in on jungle either. I like to focus on a single champion, so I get decent with it. It hurts when that champ is FOTM and banned or picked away from me all the time.

Nocturne sounds like a nice idea though. Will give Nocturne and Jarvan a try. Thanks guys <3


Celial is looking for a champion that can:
a) hard carry OR be a tank.
b) NOT FOTM because he does a lot of duo que and wants a small champion pool that probably won't be picked or banned out - even mentioning karma as his main support. FOTM does not suit him because he says he's not good enough to seamlessly change month to month.
c) be able to duel junglers OR safely escape. he doesn't need both.
d) a farm heavy yet still decent ganks.

Then you told him "just play FOTM junglers, that's a silly question." (obviously paraphrasing)

then many people suggested champions like Jarvan, Darius, Nocturne, Sejuani, Amumu, and Aatrox. all good suggestions that not only he was satisfied with but also fit his "silly" criteria. not to mention the rune/mastery/and other build/playstyle tips he got from TL posters who ACTUALLY helped.

I particularly enjoyed dae's post on the jungle Darius. if I recall dae is a d1 player, but I'm sure him having success (at least enough to post a moderate amount of info) with jungle Darius is "laughable".

ps had you suggested hecarim in the beginning instead of your original post, we wouldn't be having this discussion. in fact I think hecarim is one of, if not, the best suggestions so far. kinda amusing how you managed to answer his "silly question".

double ps what champs do you play? or should I assume you play FOTM feela? (feela = only in Sesotho if anybody cares to be a little more cultured)

triple ps ketara you're KILLING me with that picture. WTB first world food please.


Udyr fits ALL the criteria
ALL of them
can hard carry AND be a tank
can duel junglers AND escape
farm heavy decent ganks yes yes
not fotm yes

P.S Garen isn't faceroll wtf guise, he's one of the hardest champs in the game because you have to manage to kill people with zero hard gapcloser and zero cc
literally you have to kill people by walking up to them slightly faster than usual which is slightly predictable
even then your burst damage isn't even high you have to do it AGAIN and somehow they have to not be able to stop you

I mean there's a huge animation for when he presses Q and is about to run at you, even if he could one shot you and had 1 million hp he'd just be a marginally difficult Zelda boss.
aka Teutonica
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 12 2014 14:37 GMT
#465
On February 12 2014 23:25 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 16:48 JonGalt wrote:
@wei2coolman just gonna point out a couple things for you.

On February 12 2014 04:56 Celial wrote:
Hey, I'm looking for new jungler to spam but just don't know which champion...

I want a champ that has the option to both hardcarry and be a tank (not at the same time, mind you). It needs to be outside of the current fotm meta though, I know that Vi would fit exactly that description but she is either banned or picked every game. I also want to be able to either outright beat or safely escape popular junglers. I prefer a more farm heavy playstyle, but want decent ganks (so Shyvana is out).

I played a lot of Olaf recently, but I feel that while I can stay a (minor) threat in lategame with true damage, I really cannot pick up a struggling team on my back and carry it. Even if I do VERY well for myself. Pantheon, Vi, Wukong, Khazix, Elise, Olaf... etc all FOTM that I don't want to play. I like to play champions that are very rarely popular but still insanely strong (and do well even when behind), just like my favorite support Karma. Any ideas?


On February 12 2014 06:10 Celial wrote:
Yeah but I'm by far not good enough at the game to switch seamlessly between different champions and perform well. Also, I mostly play duo queue nowadays as Karma support with my ADC buddy, so I don't get much practice in on jungle either. I like to focus on a single champion, so I get decent with it. It hurts when that champ is FOTM and banned or picked away from me all the time.

Nocturne sounds like a nice idea though. Will give Nocturne and Jarvan a try. Thanks guys <3


Celial is looking for a champion that can:
a) hard carry OR be a tank.
b) NOT FOTM because he does a lot of duo que and wants a small champion pool that probably won't be picked or banned out - even mentioning karma as his main support. FOTM does not suit him because he says he's not good enough to seamlessly change month to month.
c) be able to duel junglers OR safely escape. he doesn't need both.
d) a farm heavy yet still decent ganks.

Then you told him "just play FOTM junglers, that's a silly question." (obviously paraphrasing)

then many people suggested champions like Jarvan, Darius, Nocturne, Sejuani, Amumu, and Aatrox. all good suggestions that not only he was satisfied with but also fit his "silly" criteria. not to mention the rune/mastery/and other build/playstyle tips he got from TL posters who ACTUALLY helped.

I particularly enjoyed dae's post on the jungle Darius. if I recall dae is a d1 player, but I'm sure him having success (at least enough to post a moderate amount of info) with jungle Darius is "laughable".

ps had you suggested hecarim in the beginning instead of your original post, we wouldn't be having this discussion. in fact I think hecarim is one of, if not, the best suggestions so far. kinda amusing how you managed to answer his "silly question".

double ps what champs do you play? or should I assume you play FOTM feela? (feela = only in Sesotho if anybody cares to be a little more cultured)

triple ps ketara you're KILLING me with that picture. WTB first world food please.


Udyr fits ALL the criteria
ALL of them
can hard carry AND be a tank
can duel junglers AND escape
farm heavy decent ganks yes yes
not fotm yes

P.S Garen isn't faceroll wtf guise, he's one of the hardest champs in the game because you have to manage to kill people with zero hard gapcloser and zero cc
literally you have to kill people by walking up to them slightly faster than usual which is slightly predictable
even then your burst damage isn't even high you have to do it AGAIN and somehow they have to not be able to stop you

I mean there's a huge animation for when he presses Q and is about to run at you, even if he could one shot you and had 1 million hp he'd just be a marginally difficult Zelda boss.


Welcome to the League of Legends Champion Spotlight for Garen, The Marginally Difficult Zelda Boss.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 12 2014 14:55 GMT
#466
On February 12 2014 16:48 JonGalt wrote:
@wei2coolman just gonna point out a couple things for you.

Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 04:56 Celial wrote:
Hey, I'm looking for new jungler to spam but just don't know which champion...

I want a champ that has the option to both hardcarry and be a tank (not at the same time, mind you). It needs to be outside of the current fotm meta though, I know that Vi would fit exactly that description but she is either banned or picked every game. I also want to be able to either outright beat or safely escape popular junglers. I prefer a more farm heavy playstyle, but want decent ganks (so Shyvana is out).

I played a lot of Olaf recently, but I feel that while I can stay a (minor) threat in lategame with true damage, I really cannot pick up a struggling team on my back and carry it. Even if I do VERY well for myself. Pantheon, Vi, Wukong, Khazix, Elise, Olaf... etc all FOTM that I don't want to play. I like to play champions that are very rarely popular but still insanely strong (and do well even when behind), just like my favorite support Karma. Any ideas?


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 06:10 Celial wrote:
Yeah but I'm by far not good enough at the game to switch seamlessly between different champions and perform well. Also, I mostly play duo queue nowadays as Karma support with my ADC buddy, so I don't get much practice in on jungle either. I like to focus on a single champion, so I get decent with it. It hurts when that champ is FOTM and banned or picked away from me all the time.

Nocturne sounds like a nice idea though. Will give Nocturne and Jarvan a try. Thanks guys <3


Celial is looking for a champion that can:
a) hard carry OR be a tank.
b) NOT FOTM because he does a lot of duo que and wants a small champion pool that probably won't be picked or banned out - even mentioning karma as his main support. FOTM does not suit him because he says he's not good enough to seamlessly change month to month.
c) be able to duel junglers OR safely escape. he doesn't need both.
d) a farm heavy yet still decent ganks.

Then you told him "just play FOTM junglers, that's a silly question." (obviously paraphrasing)

then many people suggested champions like Jarvan, Darius, Nocturne, Sejuani, Amumu, and Aatrox. all good suggestions that not only he was satisfied with but also fit his "silly" criteria. not to mention the rune/mastery/and other build/playstyle tips he got from TL posters who ACTUALLY helped.

I particularly enjoyed dae's post on the jungle Darius. if I recall dae is a d1 player, but I'm sure him having success (at least enough to post a moderate amount of info) with jungle Darius is "laughable".

ps had you suggested hecarim in the beginning instead of your original post, we wouldn't be having this discussion. in fact I think hecarim is one of, if not, the best suggestions so far. kinda amusing how you managed to answer his "silly question".

double ps what champs do you play? or should I assume you play FOTM feela? (feela = only in Sesotho if anybody cares to be a little more cultured)

triple ps ketara you're KILLING me with that picture. WTB first world food please.


When I lived in India the very first thing I did when I got home was eat fast food and it made me sick for a week.

When you come home you gotta ease back into it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 12 2014 15:00 GMT
#467
I'm scared for my butthole when I rediscover taco bell after 26 months of my stomach forgetting about it.

YOLO

@teut I remember udyr being the first champ I ever jungled with. he is a lot of fun and a great champ to learn jungling with.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
February 12 2014 15:02 GMT
#468
On February 13 2014 00:00 JonGalt wrote:
I'm scared for my butthole when I rediscover taco bell after 26 months of my stomach forgetting about it.

YOLO

@teut I remember udyr being the first champ I ever jungled with. he is a lot of fun and a great champ to learn jungling with.


Every time there is an Udyr on the enemy team in my game, he somehow manages to get 20 kills. This has always blown my mind, considering the only way he can get to you is to just run straight at you.

He's so one dimensional, yet people seem to die to him every time he comes out of the jungle.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 12 2014 15:04 GMT
#469
There's this magical thing where people are like "Oh it's just Udyr I don't have to be worried" and then he comes up behind you and you're like "OH SHIT IT'S UDYR"
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-12 15:06:38
February 12 2014 15:05 GMT
#470
im the fucking master of getting 20 kills by running straight at people
right now I pretty much only play udyr and garen and watch naruto with scip
I mean last solo q garen game I went 15/6/18 wtf?
aka Teutonica
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
February 12 2014 15:11 GMT
#471
On February 13 2014 00:05 Slayer91 wrote:
im the fucking master of getting 20 kills by running straight at people
right now I pretty much only play udyr and garen and watch naruto with scip
I mean last solo q garen game I went 15/6/18 wtf?


even brick walls are afraid of you
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23460 Posts
February 12 2014 15:12 GMT
#472
them and towers are my arch nemesis they'd better be
aka Teutonica
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 12 2014 15:25 GMT
#473
On February 12 2014 18:22 Alaric wrote:
Only Draven, Twitch and Kennen have more base AS than him (and Draven only wants enough AS to be able to juggle 2 axes tbh).


For sure. I was just listing random ideas that could separate Kog's damage out more lategame because Jinx has a strong midgame Kit with her Zap, ult, and free AS (or long range for sieges).

One of Kog's big problems is actually that he cant use his W for sieging or Dragon/Baron because then it will be down for a potential engagement.
Freeeeeeedom
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 12 2014 15:26 GMT
#474
On February 13 2014 00:25 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 18:22 Alaric wrote:
Only Draven, Twitch and Kennen have more base AS than him (and Draven only wants enough AS to be able to juggle 2 axes tbh).


For sure. I was just listing random ideas that could separate Kog's damage out more lategame because Jinx has a strong midgame Kit with her Zap, ult, and free AS (or long range for sieges).

One of Kog's big problems is actually that he cant use his W for sieging or Dragon/Baron because then it will be down for a potential engagement.


Maybe Kog's W needs to reset CD on kill/assist.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 12 2014 15:29 GMT
#475
On February 13 2014 00:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 00:25 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:22 Alaric wrote:
Only Draven, Twitch and Kennen have more base AS than him (and Draven only wants enough AS to be able to juggle 2 axes tbh).


For sure. I was just listing random ideas that could separate Kog's damage out more lategame because Jinx has a strong midgame Kit with her Zap, ult, and free AS (or long range for sieges).

One of Kog's big problems is actually that he cant use his W for sieging or Dragon/Baron because then it will be down for a potential engagement.


Maybe Kog's W needs to reset CD on kill/assist.



His passive is god awful these days, because of the addition of so many high-mobility champions that can easily evade the damage. I do agree that a CD-reset could fix some of his issues.
hi
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 12 2014 15:32 GMT
#476
On February 13 2014 00:29 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 00:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 13 2014 00:25 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:22 Alaric wrote:
Only Draven, Twitch and Kennen have more base AS than him (and Draven only wants enough AS to be able to juggle 2 axes tbh).


For sure. I was just listing random ideas that could separate Kog's damage out more lategame because Jinx has a strong midgame Kit with her Zap, ult, and free AS (or long range for sieges).

One of Kog's big problems is actually that he cant use his W for sieging or Dragon/Baron because then it will be down for a potential engagement.


Maybe Kog's W needs to reset CD on kill/assist.



His passive is god awful these days, because of the addition of so many high-mobility champions that can easily evade the damage. I do agree that a CD-reset could fix some of his issues.


o god i was joking

WE'VE REACHED THE SINGULARITY.

But seriously, never remove Kog's passive. Most hilarious passive game. Just give it Homeguard buff. ezpz
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 12 2014 15:35 GMT
#477
They should just make Kogs passive deal more damage and have a bigger AoE and move speed
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 12 2014 15:37 GMT
#478
On February 13 2014 00:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 00:29 Sponkz wrote:
On February 13 2014 00:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 13 2014 00:25 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:22 Alaric wrote:
Only Draven, Twitch and Kennen have more base AS than him (and Draven only wants enough AS to be able to juggle 2 axes tbh).


For sure. I was just listing random ideas that could separate Kog's damage out more lategame because Jinx has a strong midgame Kit with her Zap, ult, and free AS (or long range for sieges).

One of Kog's big problems is actually that he cant use his W for sieging or Dragon/Baron because then it will be down for a potential engagement.


Maybe Kog's W needs to reset CD on kill/assist.



His passive is god awful these days, because of the addition of so many high-mobility champions that can easily evade the damage. I do agree that a CD-reset could fix some of his issues.


o god i was joking

WE'VE REACHED THE SINGULARITY.

But seriously, never remove Kog's passive. Most hilarious passive game. Just give it Homeguard buff. ezpz


Haha. Kog's passive obviously needs %HP True Damage.
Freeeeeeedom
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
February 12 2014 15:40 GMT
#479
On February 13 2014 00:37 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 00:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 13 2014 00:29 Sponkz wrote:
On February 13 2014 00:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On February 13 2014 00:25 cLutZ wrote:
On February 12 2014 18:22 Alaric wrote:
Only Draven, Twitch and Kennen have more base AS than him (and Draven only wants enough AS to be able to juggle 2 axes tbh).


For sure. I was just listing random ideas that could separate Kog's damage out more lategame because Jinx has a strong midgame Kit with her Zap, ult, and free AS (or long range for sieges).

One of Kog's big problems is actually that he cant use his W for sieging or Dragon/Baron because then it will be down for a potential engagement.


Maybe Kog's W needs to reset CD on kill/assist.



His passive is god awful these days, because of the addition of so many high-mobility champions that can easily evade the damage. I do agree that a CD-reset could fix some of his issues.


o god i was joking

WE'VE REACHED THE SINGULARITY.

But seriously, never remove Kog's passive. Most hilarious passive game. Just give it Homeguard buff. ezpz


Haha. Kog's passive obviously needs %HP True Damage.

And a scaling execute. Everyone dies.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
February 12 2014 15:44 GMT
#480
Oh these jokes again
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