EPTWhat are people using for support runes these days? I am curious.
I take it GP10 runes are completely not takeable atm.
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
What are people using for support runes these days? I am curious. I take it GP10 runes are completely not takeable atm. | ||
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Gelenn
United States87 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 18 2014 08:53 Ketara wrote: I remember a few patches ago when people were all "Riot hates buffing people!" I made a list of all the buffs and nerfs for the prior 4 or 5 patches, and found that they buffed as many or more things than they nerfed. Looking at the last two patches for example there are buffs to 12 champions and nerfs to 14 champions, discounting minor bug fixes and things like that. They're really pretty 50/50, people just ignore the buffs and complain about the nerfs. Yeah that's true, but they won't buff up a heap of others to be the same pick status as Gragas, so it's easier to nerf him. I mean look at Ziggs, he's now back in line for nerfs after being buffed. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Sometimes they will "buff" a character from irrelevancy into irrelevancy. Like the Janna changes. Or like the Eve Hate Spike change. Nerf or Buff? IMO its a nerf, but a straight tallying might call it an "adjustment". | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
very anti fun much not enjoyable | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On January 18 2014 09:20 JazzVortical wrote: Yeah that's true, but they won't buff up a heap of others to be the same pick status as Gragas, so it's easier to nerf him. I mean look at Ziggs, he's now back in line for nerfs after being buffed. With Ziggs it's a matter of "He's close, just a little bit more" followed by "Okay, that was a bit more than intended." | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
On January 18 2014 08:58 Ketara wrote: I use GP quints when not playing Annie. I hope the Riot gets creative with the S4 rune changes. Also, since doubleposting is cool. What are people using for support runes these days? I am curious. I take it GP10 runes are completely not takeable atm. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On January 18 2014 09:25 cLutZ wrote: Listing # of nerfs and buffs though is stupid. Sometimes they will "buff" a character from irrelevancy into irrelevancy. Like the Janna changes. Or like the Eve Hate Spike change. Nerf or Buff? IMO its a nerf, but a straight tallying might call it an "adjustment". It's not any more stupid than saying Riot doesn't buff champions. The thing is a lot of the times things that get buffed are things people don't currently play, so there isn't much of a public discussion about it. The Anivia buffs this patch were huge but nobody plays her anymore so it gets nothing more than a few passing comments. Nerfs however typically come to champions that everybody plays and everybody sees in their games, so there's a lot more discussion. That's pretty normal and understandable. But don't say Riot doesn't buff stuff. That's just wrong. Don't be that guy. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
Went from gold 3 to plat 5 | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
On January 18 2014 10:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Did my placements on a surf I went 3-7 Went from gold 3 to plat 5 On the ladder, show me where clamping touched you. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 18 2014 09:51 Ketara wrote: It's not any more stupid than saying Riot doesn't buff champions. The thing is a lot of the times things that get buffed are things people don't currently play, so there isn't much of a public discussion about it. The Anivia buffs this patch were huge but nobody plays her anymore so it gets nothing more than a few passing comments. Nerfs however typically come to champions that everybody plays and everybody sees in their games, so there's a lot more discussion. That's pretty normal and understandable. But don't say Riot doesn't buff stuff. That's just wrong. Don't be that guy. Riot doesn't buff stuff :p But seriously, the reason people think this is because the nerfs are typically more impactful to the meta than the buffs. That is because usually what gives you a new FOTM pick is a "remake" like Olaf or Eve, a total overhaul like S2 to S3, or S3 to S4, or old FOTM champs being nerfed which either lowers the overall champion strength enough to let the new pick be strong, or removes a champion or style that is a counter to that champion. I dont even know what I am rambling about anymore. I just think midlane is the healthiest its been since Zed and Khazix were released. Edit: Although Yasuo seems to be a hairball in this machine. He makes a lot of picks much less viable. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 18 2014 09:51 Ketara wrote: It's not any more stupid than saying Riot doesn't buff champions. The thing is a lot of the times things that get buffed are things people don't currently play, so there isn't much of a public discussion about it. The Anivia buffs this patch were huge but nobody plays her anymore so it gets nothing more than a few passing comments. Nerfs however typically come to champions that everybody plays and everybody sees in their games, so there's a lot more discussion. That's pretty normal and understandable. But don't say Riot doesn't buff stuff. That's just wrong. Don't be that guy. No one said that they don't buff stuff. They just prefer nerfing people. It's easier and has less unintended consequences. It's expected they'll nerf the likes of Gragas because he is in virtually every pro game at the moment. The nature of their buffs are fairly small too (generally speaking). Granted small buffs add up over time (e.g. Janna slowly getting buffed may see her picked). | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
picked him because my team insisted and oh look, land three hooks and ult -> win game didnt hurt that i actually upgrade to oracles trinket vs an akali though i shudder to imagine how this would go if i wasn't terrible with him | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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canikizu
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It must be easy doing Gambit's Infographic lol. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35154 Posts
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On January 18 2014 09:51 Ketara wrote: It's not any more stupid than saying Riot doesn't buff champions. The thing is a lot of the times things that get buffed are things people don't currently play, so there isn't much of a public discussion about it. The Anivia buffs this patch were huge but nobody plays her anymore so it gets nothing more than a few passing comments. Nerfs however typically come to champions that everybody plays and everybody sees in their games, so there's a lot more discussion. That's pretty normal and understandable. But don't say Riot doesn't buff stuff. That's just wrong. Don't be that guy. I actually have mana to miss q's in lane. And not have to go 2 mana items. Its glorious! (100% Anivia pickrate/winrate this season) | ||
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