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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 07:43:21
February 09 2014 07:42 GMT
#4361
On February 09 2014 16:12 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 16:08 SidianTheBard wrote:
and then you realize it's a wits + cowl teemo so it doesn't really matter.

You've never faced a blade+wits teemo who's a full item up on anybody else in the game, who's completely ungankable because there's a huge minefield, and your top laner can't do anything under a turret without dying then I guess.

I actually like bruiser teemo more than AP teemo because you can actually teamfight and duel people down because of how deceptively tanky you are, and global taunt. Can pretty much win fights singlehandedly if you're fed enough.

I thought it was AP teemo that was better at teamfighting because of shroom control at objectives and stuff while bruiser was better at splitpushing (where dueling is more relevant). I mean im pretty sure he wrecks regardless unless you get hella shut down in lane.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
February 09 2014 07:57 GMT
#4362
and then runaans came along.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 09 2014 08:16 GMT
#4363
TIL frostfang gives 16 gold for teemo auto attacks, cuz of the E.
liftlift > tsm
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 09 2014 08:26 GMT
#4364
On February 09 2014 17:16 wei2coolman wrote:
TIL frostfang gives 16 gold for teemo auto attacks, cuz of the E.

BEST ITEM EVER THEN.
God Bless
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 09 2014 08:31 GMT
#4365
On February 09 2014 17:26 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 17:16 wei2coolman wrote:
TIL frostfang gives 16 gold for teemo auto attacks, cuz of the E.

BEST ITEM EVER THEN.

Just something I found out on ARAM. Been a huge fan of frostfang first item on ARAM right now.
liftlift > tsm
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
February 09 2014 08:36 GMT
#4366
Bruiser teemo has better team fighting because he lives. AP teemo doesn't really team fight he just leaves shrooms everywhere and then kinda shows up at the end to clean up.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 09 2014 08:50 GMT
#4367
So how do you keep positive in ranked? Not the numerical kda kind but the "lets not break out the bottle because a game went awry" kind.

On a related note, when multiple lanes implode what exactly am I supposed to do? If I go to some of them most likely the enemy just kills us both but I can't farm it out. Objectives seem like a solid answer but when mid and bot are both dieing and top is barely hanging on I just feel pulled all over the map and I just feel useless.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 08:51:51
February 09 2014 08:50 GMT
#4368
AP Teemo isn't so much a teamfighter as he is map control. If the enemy doesn't step over several of his shrooms, his teamfighting is mediocre at best since he's squishy, low range, and the rest of his abilities are relatively low damage since he can't really afford to be in auto range w/out blowing up.
On February 09 2014 17:50 Parnage wrote:
So how do you keep positive in ranked? Not the numerical kda kind but the "lets not break out the bottle because a game went awry" kind.

On a related note, when multiple lanes implode what exactly am I supposed to do? If I go to some of them most likely the enemy just kills us both but I can't farm it out. Objectives seem like a solid answer but when mid and bot are both dieing and top is barely hanging on I just feel pulled all over the map and I just feel useless.

I'm guessing you're jungling?

While some games are just unwinnable, many times it's about preventing unwinnable situations from arising in the first place. IE. counterganking and ganking well.
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 09 2014 08:57 GMT
#4369
Generally I support or Jungle yeah and some games I can turn a guy who got first blooded before I get my red buff to someone useful but other times the impact just doesn't work because I'll be trying to hold one lane together and the other will just ping spam help and deaths. I don't want to ignore them but I feel like I am playing triage.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 09 2014 09:05 GMT
#4370
if multiple lanes fail, pick one lane that can potentially carry and help it. Usually mid or bot.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 09:09:40
February 09 2014 09:09 GMT
#4371
On February 09 2014 18:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if multiple lanes fail, pick one lane that can potentially carry and help it. Usually mid or bot.

"let dying lanes die", number one rule i learned as jungler.
liftlift > tsm
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 09 2014 09:11 GMT
#4372
good to know
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 14:53:20
February 09 2014 09:20 GMT
#4373
PLEASE stop spouting bullshit. AP teemo is 10 times better at team fights than bruiser teemo who is all about splitpushing and can't do much during tf's because he needs to auto to be effective with his crap range. Yes you need to land shrooms as ap teemo that's why you build cdr and learn HOW to place them, even during fights. Q also has a better range than auto. Play ap teemo and check damage done to champions after every game, never not be #1, always be #1.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 09 2014 09:23 GMT
#4374
I'm with RouaF. AP Teemo #1 global taunt.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 09:24:06
February 09 2014 09:23 GMT
#4375
On February 09 2014 18:05 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if multiple lanes fail, pick one lane that can potentially carry and help it. Usually mid or bot.


This. So much this. I mean worst case is you try to feed kills to top and hope that the top laner is either a tanky god or Riven. If bot starts dying a ton don't try to save them, it's not worth it and relies upon the enemy team to mess up to get kills on them. The only time I think I'd go bot when our bot is losing is to maybe try and all-in their adc then IMMEDIATELY get dragon or tower while the support does nothing.

But that requires bot lane to be competent, so...

On February 09 2014 18:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm with RouaF. AP Teemo #1 global taunt.


Because AP Teemo's taunt kills people.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 09 2014 10:18 GMT
#4376
On February 09 2014 18:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm with RouaF. AP Teemo #1 global taunt.


More like shrooms #1 map control tool.
hi
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 09 2014 10:22 GMT
#4377
On February 09 2014 19:18 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 18:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm with RouaF. AP Teemo #1 global taunt.


More like shrooms #1 map control tool.

So much this. If you step on one from a Deathcap, Liandries, Voidstaff Teemo, you literally cannot move, because if you step on another, you're dead.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 09 2014 10:54 GMT
#4378
On February 09 2014 19:22 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 19:18 Sponkz wrote:
On February 09 2014 18:23 NeoIllusions wrote:
I'm with RouaF. AP Teemo #1 global taunt.


More like shrooms #1 map control tool.

So much this. If you step on one from a Deathcap, Liandries, Voidstaff Teemo, you literally cannot move, because if you step on another, you're dead.

Lol you don't even need deathcap/voidstaff. Just liandries with the shrooms is enough to be bringing the pain all match.
Glorious SEA doto
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-09 10:56:19
February 09 2014 10:56 GMT
#4379
Liandries makes the shrooms hurt. Deathcap/Void make them into literal landmines that'll blow your leg off if you step on one. And god forbid if an ally is nearby or else they'll get caught in the blast radius too. Can we get Geneva convention to outlaw AP Teemo (his shrooms specifically) for crimes against humanity?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 09 2014 11:16 GMT
#4380
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