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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
December 21 2013 22:20 GMT
#1601
On December 22 2013 06:40 InfSunday wrote:
Looked to me like Darien's toplane WW was hilariously relevant. And the teleport into ult ganks seemed pretty scary.

Guess I know what I'll be seeing in soloQ for the next few weeks. -.-


I'm not surprised. The S4 toplane meta so far heavily favors sustain tanks (bonus points for manaless).
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 21 2013 22:21 GMT
#1602
On December 22 2013 06:20 LightningStrike wrote:
What you guys think of the WW top in game 2 and Mumu suppport in game 1? Is it just Gambit being Gambit?

Even Alex wasn't super sure about the Amumu pick lol

RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 21 2013 22:25 GMT
#1603
Warwick isn't exactly manaless, though. And he can't push for shit. And has crap gank assist and no way to stick to an above 50% target pre-6 too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-21 22:43:58
December 21 2013 22:43 GMT
#1604
Yeah, and as seen in that game, WW was irrelevant until 8+ or something.
I feel that one of the bigger impacts WW made on the game was getting mikhails and sash our of Vulcun XDG.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
December 21 2013 23:17 GMT
#1605
On December 22 2013 07:43 Duvon wrote:
Yeah, and as seen in that game, WW was irrelevant until 8+ or something.
I feel that one of the bigger impacts WW made on the game was getting mikhails and sash our of Vulcun XDG.

Mikael's doesn't help vs. WW. Whether or not XDG knew that, I don't know. Just having an instant gap closer vs. a Syndra is already a huge plus for Gambit since it delays any runners from getting hit by her stun.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 21 2013 23:22 GMT
#1606
I'm pretty convinced in 1v1 about 10% of the population plays Nunu, not because he's good, just to irritate the hell out of you.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
December 22 2013 02:15 GMT
#1607
On December 22 2013 08:22 zer0das wrote:
I'm pretty convinced in 1v1 about 10% of the population plays Nunu, not because he's good, just to irritate the hell out of you.


New mission in life.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 22 2013 02:28 GMT
#1608
I been spamming Yasuo in the 1v1's hes fun and challenging
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 22 2013 03:08 GMT
#1609
On December 22 2013 08:22 zer0das wrote:
I'm pretty convinced in 1v1 about 10% of the population plays Nunu, not because he's good, just to irritate the hell out of you.

Yorick vs Nunu.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
December 22 2013 03:28 GMT
#1610
How many health items (or how much HP) does it take for Atma's to be cost efficient on Yasuo?
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 03:35:08
December 22 2013 03:33 GMT
#1611
Define cost efficient.

As good as stacking basic items (which is what lolwiki likes to call "cost efficient"), or as good as other composite items?
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
December 22 2013 03:49 GMT
#1612
Well i mean like, can you get a tanky item then Atma's and pack a decent punch? Or like Bruta (for ghostblade, idk if its the best choice) ---> Tanky Item ---> Atma's.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 22 2013 03:57 GMT
#1613
On December 22 2013 08:22 zer0das wrote:
I'm pretty convinced in 1v1 about 10% of the population plays Nunu, not because he's good, just to irritate the hell out of you.

That's why I ban annoying shits like Teeto and Nunu.
God Bless
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 04:16:34
December 22 2013 04:15 GMT
#1614
Ziggs is actually my #1 priority ban currently. It's incredible he's so rarely banned, dude destroys every game.

On December 22 2013 12:28 Ethelis wrote:
How many health items (or how much HP) does it take for Atma's to be cost efficient on Yasuo?

It's League wiki definition of cost-efficient with no bonus hp.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
December 22 2013 04:47 GMT
#1615
On December 22 2013 12:49 Ethelis wrote:
Well i mean like, can you get a tanky item then Atma's and pack a decent punch? Or like Bruta (for ghostblade, idk if its the best choice) ---> Tanky Item ---> Atma's.


Tried it out, I think it's not terrible. Shiv+atma's gives you a fair amount of crit, and with 70% crit chance, you'll crit more often than not. Build pure tank from there and now you've got a large chunk of mixed damage coming in fairly often, and being really, really tanky. I actually think this is probably the better way to play him. Iedge really is just too expensive to be getting as a melee. ~150 AD critting almost every hit along with critical shiv procs & Q's is still a ton of damage even if you don't quite get the same instagib potential.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
December 22 2013 04:53 GMT
#1616
On December 22 2013 12:57 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 08:22 zer0das wrote:
I'm pretty convinced in 1v1 about 10% of the population plays Nunu, not because he's good, just to irritate the hell out of you.

That's why I ban annoying shits like Teeto and Nunu.


Nunu is annoying, but I've yet to lose to one. Cait, Varus, or Renekton all wreck him. If you can shove the lane and not die, Nunu doesn't really have a response to that. It just sucks getting snowballed for 8 minutes or so.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 04:55:04
December 22 2013 04:53 GMT
#1617
On December 22 2013 13:15 Shikyo wrote:
Ziggs is actually my #1 priority ban currently. It's incredible he's so rarely banned, dude destroys every game.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 12:28 Ethelis wrote:
How many health items (or how much HP) does it take for Atma's to be cost efficient on Yasuo?

It's League wiki definition of cost-efficient with no bonus hp.


Welp time to rush Atma's everygame on Yasuo...said no one ever.

Serious question though, would rushing it against an AD top into 2 tanky items then finish off your crit items be any good? I mean like considering his power curve once you get past the early levels its smooth sailing from there right? At times it sounds reasonable enough to test it out but at others it sounds incredibly stupid.

edit: shen'd (sorta)

On December 22 2013 13:47 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 12:49 Ethelis wrote:
Well i mean like, can you get a tanky item then Atma's and pack a decent punch? Or like Bruta (for ghostblade, idk if its the best choice) ---> Tanky Item ---> Atma's.


Tried it out, I think it's not terrible. Shiv+atma's gives you a fair amount of crit, and with 70% crit chance, you'll crit more often than not. Build pure tank from there and now you've got a large chunk of mixed damage coming in fairly often, and being really, really tanky. I actually think this is probably the better way to play him. Iedge really is just too expensive to be getting as a melee. ~150 AD critting almost every hit along with critical shiv procs & Q's is still a ton of damage even if you don't quite get the same instagib potential.


It sounds neat vs an AD specially if you're against a lee or vi jungle as well.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 04:59:30
December 22 2013 04:57 GMT
#1618
Well all converted items are cost efficient except wriggles.
the difference between items are how cost efficient, and how slot efficient.
Atma's easily cost efficient, even at like 2k health, problem it's not very slot efficient.

probably slot efficient on Yasuo, since he gets a free Cloak's worth of crit with Atma's.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 22 2013 05:26 GMT
#1619
Well with Yasuo it's even more cost-efficient because of the crit passive so I think it actually is legitly very cost-efficient, especially with a tanky build.

By the way, how strong is Jinx's lategame considered to be in comparison to other ADCs?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 22 2013 05:37 GMT
#1620
On December 22 2013 14:26 Shikyo wrote:
Well with Yasuo it's even more cost-efficient because of the crit passive so I think it actually is legitly very cost-efficient, especially with a tanky build.

By the way, how strong is Jinx's lategame considered to be in comparison to other ADCs?

Very strong, like I don't think quite Kog or Vayne level in terms of damage but her long ranged aoe damage is pretty strong late game.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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