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The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
April 09 2014 17:51 GMT
#1681
On April 09 2014 22:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
klingt eher als wollt er dass ihr seine eirstöcke ansabbert, aber is schon ne weile her dass ich mich dazu herabgelassen hab froschschenkelsprache zu sprechen


Die Froschen ficken deine ganze Familie alda
I got five reasons for you to shut up
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
April 09 2014 17:53 GMT
#1682
Next Playday: Wednesday, April 9th, 8:30 PM CET
The In-Game channel will be "TryHardTime"

Be there cunts
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Taliman
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland15 Posts
April 10 2014 08:21 GMT
#1683
Sorry guys fell into a coma yesterday after university I was so tired. Until next time.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
April 10 2014 10:07 GMT
#1684
Ok!

By the way, Prog, seeing that you're a Diamond support main, did you have any tips for my support play in the game where you played Jinx and I played Annie?
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
April 10 2014 10:26 GMT
#1685
Unfortunately I don't remember too much of that game, other than that you did not flash for the first blood stun. I think we dominated bot lane pretty hard against the lantern first thresh and you played the advantage situation pretty well so that we got good damage on them every time they were close. Maybe we could have gotten an additional kill right when you hit lvl 6 if you moved closer to them while still being lvl 5 and instantly go on them reaching 6 with flash tibbers, but that's not really a big issue. After the laning phase we just got the perfect initiate from Malphite/Wukong to cruise to the victory.

Looking at the itemchoice in lolking I think your choice of boots could have been better. You don't get much from ninja tabi. Either go for movement (mobility or swiftness) or sorcerers. They had a pokey comp, so movement is probably better to get close enough for the initiation/follow-up to Malphite.

Also you did not switch to red trinket accoring to lolking.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
April 10 2014 10:32 GMT
#1686
On April 10 2014 19:26 Prog wrote:
Unfortunately I don't remember too much of that game, other than that you did not flash for the first blood stun. I think we dominated bot lane pretty hard against the lantern first thresh and you played the advantage situation pretty well so that we got good damage on them every time they were close. Maybe we could have gotten an additional kill right when you hit lvl 6 if you moved closer to them while still being lvl 5 and instantly go on them reaching 6 with flash tibbers, but that's not really a big issue. After the laning phase we just got the perfect initiate from Malphite/Wukong to cruise to the victory.

Looking at the itemchoice in lolking I think your choice of boots could have been better. You don't get much from ninja tabi. Either go for movement (mobility or swiftness) or sorcerers. They had a pokey comp, so movement is probably better to get close enough for the initiation/follow-up to Malphite.

Also you did not switch to red trinket accoring to lolking.

I always feel like tabis are pretty good while still laning, but yeah I guess sorcs/mobies would have been better.
Also I don't think its worth to flash for a first blood while it still gives so little.
And yes I always forget to switch out trinkets. Like I've played I think 20 games of support this season and after every game I'm like, remember to switch out trinkets next game!
But then I always forget.

Does jinx have enough follow up on a flash tibbers at level 6 btw? I feel like I'm wasting ult when I do flash tibbers with an adc a screen away.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 10:35:21
April 10 2014 10:34 GMT
#1687
Jinx definitely has enough follow up. The ultimate alone hits pretty hard after you went in with your combo.


Edit: About the first blood: I still think it is worth, especially if only a botlaner flashes. It's more difficult to punish a missing flash in botlane early i think.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
April 10 2014 11:37 GMT
#1688
Seems that I'm pretty good with adc :p

But not Cait. Shouldn't have lost the poke game against Annie/Jinx.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
April 10 2014 12:49 GMT
#1689
On April 10 2014 19:34 Prog wrote:
Jinx definitely has enough follow up. The ultimate alone hits pretty hard after you went in with your combo.


Edit: About the first blood: I still think it is worth, especially if only a botlaner flashes. It's more difficult to punish a missing flash in botlane early i think.

Ok, thank you for the tips!
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
April 10 2014 13:26 GMT
#1690
On April 10 2014 20:37 Sakray wrote:
Seems that I'm pretty good with adc :p

But not Cait. Shouldn't have lost the poke game against Annie/Jinx.

I think that lane was just screwed from level 1, I should have just let you burn flash instead of skilling lantern, underestimated how badly that would mess us up.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
April 10 2014 13:46 GMT
#1691
Proč tady píšete v jazycích kterým nerozumím klucí? t.t

So more inhouses next Tuesday?
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
April 10 2014 14:19 GMT
#1692
On April 10 2014 22:26 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2014 20:37 Sakray wrote:
Seems that I'm pretty good with adc :p

But not Cait. Shouldn't have lost the poke game against Annie/Jinx.

I think that lane was just screwed from level 1, I should have just let you burn flash instead of skilling lantern, underestimated how badly that would mess us up.


I actually took E to escape and keep my flash up, so I was kinda screwed myself
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
April 10 2014 16:48 GMT
#1693
Randy why u no come play with me, playing support for an adc who afk's at the 15 minute mark is no fun :<
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
April 10 2014 17:23 GMT
#1694
I was so much behind that grouping would mean sealing the game for me as I would have 0 farm and I would have been so useless it wasn't that different from a straight up 4v5
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
April 10 2014 17:51 GMT
#1695
I think he wants you to duoQ with him

What did you guys think of the way we planned our comps and strategies in yesterday's inhouses? I know i enjoyed it a lot more this way
I got five reasons for you to shut up
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 10 2014 17:58 GMT
#1696
It's definitely something worth doing once in a while, but I was actually glad that in last game my team didn't say anything and just picked whatever. But then maybe I'm just salty because no one wanted to to the KT comp
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-10 18:59:16
April 10 2014 18:58 GMT
#1697
On April 11 2014 02:58 AlterKot wrote:
It's definitely something worth doing once in a while, but I was actually glad that in last game my team didn't say anything and just picked whatever. But then maybe I'm just salty because no one wanted to to the KT comp

As I was probably one of the people who shot down the kt comp, I should probably explain my reasoning for thinking it was a bad idea, feel free to disagree/point out why you think it didn't work.

http://piltoverpundit.wordpress.com/2014/03/18/strategy-evolved-kt-rolsters-khazix-comp/ link for anyone who didn't see it~

I'm just not sure it's that feasible to try very specific comps like that one in random inhouses, which are probably better suited for testing out in 5's where everyone is more even-ish in skill, and has more time to read through it.

Main issue, in most games there is a very large range of skill between the different players, having a comp which relies of several players to each do a specific job runs on the assumption that each player will be roughly equal, with noone hard carrying and noone falling behind, for the combo to actually be worth executing. For example, if you have a gold kha jungling vs a diamond player, he's likely going to fall quite far behind, and the strat falls apart because it runs off the idea that they'll have to focus him.

Also a lack of people maining specific champions, it's one thing to need a tanky top, or some hard engage from someone, but if you try and get 4 roles with specific champions, people probably won't all feel fully comfortable on their champions, unless you're really lucky. And again, a comp which runs of relatively complex interactions between multiple champions, getting kha to bait aggro, then get all the shields onto him, whic everyone kites etc, isn't going to go off well if people aren't very comfortable with the kits/exactly how to position/play on their champions. Like the time we spent 8 minutes discussing what should go with a twitch/shen comp, before realising noone actually had any experience playing twitch.

It was also a pretty specific strategy, it involved sending your mid laner off to a side laner, your duo mid, maybe your top bot, then doing several specific rotations. There was a fair bit of reading to absorb i just the 3-4 minutes we have to talk about things, and again it also relies on lanes winning to to you picking strong laners, which is definitely not a guarantee in inhouses, where you often have strong skill imbalances in some lanes, which are made up for by imbalances elsewhere.

Apologies if i've randomly written a wall of text, (I accidentally do that sometimes,) just wanted to make clear I wasn't randomly shooting down ideas :p

If you wanna try the specific comp in 5's i'm sure you wouldn't have too much trouble getting 4 other people rounded up to read through it, then try it in a few games. (I'd be up for it whenever if you need me ^^)

On April 11 2014 02:51 The_Unseen wrote:
I think he wants you to duoQ with him

What did you guys think of the way we planned our comps and strategies in yesterday's inhouses? I know i enjoyed it a lot more this way


Yeah I meant duo q, he mentioend wanting to duo today, but I didn't see him online ^^
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
April 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#1698
Yeah, lets do the KT comp in some ranked 5 games.
Out of those champions I could play Shen, Kha and possibly Caitlyn if thats the adc of choice.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
April 10 2014 19:05 GMT
#1699
Problem is we never play 5s because every time we want to we end up with 10 people :^)
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
April 10 2014 19:07 GMT
#1700
We could play 5s right now : D
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