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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 12 2013 23:50 GMT
#3581
On October 13 2013 08:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:46 Kinie wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:30 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Of course I would decide to main Lucian and write a guide for him the week Jinx comes out.

;;

Look on the bright side, with the hype around jinx and the subsequent rejection of lucian you are now a sivir level hipster with lucian.

HES SO GOOD THOUGH


Lucian a good adc? Does not compute.

Tbh, he's an ok adc, but so dependant upon items and his kit working that its hard to justify using him, especially when most of his skills lock him in place to cast them. I don't remember who was saying this, but if his W was castable while moving he'd be ok, cause at least then you can W > double tap AA > R+E > W > double tap AA and deal good damage.

He's always good though. No really bad matchups, no state of the game where he falls behind, and really high damage in teamfights. The fact that his ult allows him to ALWAYS do damage in fights, plus his really high base damage and kiting potential, means that he puts out a LOT of damage. Item dependency is universal for ADCs. He does lack the utility that a lot of other ADCs bring, and he lacks a lot of poke, but he's still really strong. He also has a powerful Triforce timing.

Every time I pick lucian I ask myself:Why didn't I pick something else?He is so mediocre and gets pooped on so hard by vayne/cait/trist.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 12 2013 23:55 GMT
#3582
On October 13 2013 08:42 Lylat wrote:
Anyone watching BLSNA tournament ? Hilarous match between Mancloud and Boxbox

e : oh there is a thread, I'm bad

thx!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
October 13 2013 00:18 GMT
#3583
On October 12 2013 13:08 xes wrote:
Curse fans are like Cubs fans

Kinda late to the party but I'm a Curse fan and Cubs fan T_T
Power-tripping mod for Trump's stream
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 01:33:24
October 13 2013 01:32 GMT
#3584
low level MMR / ELO game

possibly stupid question

as ADC, should I focus on CS or go help the team when the other team is grouping up especially when my team likes to engage 4v5 or worse?

I think in higher MMR / ELO games players are able to defend tower 4v5 without going crazy correct?

asking because I finished a game with the most gold accumulated and was far ahead of the other ADC but still ended up losing
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
October 13 2013 01:35 GMT
#3585
Well no $100 bills are going to be eaten today.
@miicah88
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 13 2013 01:36 GMT
#3586
as ADC, should I focus on CS or go help the team when the other team is grouping up especially when my team likes to engage 4v5 or worse?


if u are very behind, just push the wave to their tower and join up ur team. If u are kinda same condition or better than their adc, join up ur team asap

I think in higher MMR / ELO games players are able to defend tower 4v5 without going crazy correct?


not unless they dive super hard and ur teams have lots of shield/disengage.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 13 2013 02:03 GMT
#3587
On October 13 2013 08:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 07:46 Kinie wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 13 2013 07:30 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Of course I would decide to main Lucian and write a guide for him the week Jinx comes out.

;;

Look on the bright side, with the hype around jinx and the subsequent rejection of lucian you are now a sivir level hipster with lucian.

HES SO GOOD THOUGH


Lucian a good adc? Does not compute.

Tbh, he's an ok adc, but so dependant upon items and his kit working that its hard to justify using him, especially when most of his skills lock him in place to cast them. I don't remember who was saying this, but if his W was castable while moving he'd be ok, cause at least then you can W > double tap AA > R+E > W > double tap AA and deal good damage.

He's always good though. No really bad matchups, no state of the game where he falls behind, and really high damage in teamfights. The fact that his ult allows him to ALWAYS do damage in fights, plus his really high base damage and kiting potential, means that he puts out a LOT of damage. Item dependency is universal for ADCs. He does lack the utility that a lot of other ADCs bring, and he lacks a lot of poke, but he's still really strong. He also has a powerful Triforce timing.


Like someone else already said, there's certain ADCs that he just seems to suck against. Caitlyn outranges him and her Q is arguably better than his Q. Vayne should stomp on him in skirmishes in the laning phase (assuming you have a competent support/jungler). Like the only ADCs I can think of him beating in the laning phase is Ezreal, maybe Varus, and possibly Ashe. Otherwise he should be breaking even with CS with the opposing ADC, and if the enemy ADC scales better than him you're just boned assuming ideal circumstances. cause all you'll be able to do is ult and weaken the front line of the opposing team or maybe help chase some people down after a team fight if you're still alive.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 13 2013 02:18 GMT
#3588
I want Urgot to be good.

http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
October 13 2013 02:28 GMT
#3589
Ok, I'll grand your wish
...
there, he is good
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
October 13 2013 02:28 GMT
#3590
On October 13 2013 04:45 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 04:41 jaybrundage wrote:
On October 13 2013 04:37 BlasiuS wrote:
My go-to mids just aren't working in gold.

I need to pick up a solid fp mid. Right now I have anivia (too vulnerable to counterpicks) and kassadin (same, and he's also banned in like 80% of games)

Who should I learn? I don't main mid, so I don't want games where I have to be mid be auto-losses.

Learn Ap Sion :D

Get double Dring Mobi Boots and clear and roam bot for double kills. EZ PZ. Sion wrecks every elo from bronze to plat. Haven't done him much in diamond yet.

"I got carried a lot in every elo from bronze to plat"

hue

Welp time to get "carried" to D1 then Challenger.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 13 2013 02:40 GMT
#3591
On October 13 2013 10:32 udgnim wrote:
low level MMR / ELO game

possibly stupid question

as ADC, should I focus on CS or go help the team when the other team is grouping up especially when my team likes to engage 4v5 or worse?

I think in higher MMR / ELO games players are able to defend tower 4v5 without going crazy correct?

asking because I finished a game with the most gold accumulated and was far ahead of the other ADC but still ended up losing


follow up question for low ELO / MMR

if team jungler or any team member that has not been performing well but wants to go for a risky tower dive or chase a target through river / enemy jungle without ward coverage, do I follow them on it and hope for the best or do I leave them on their Dora the Explorer expedition into possible death?
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 03:04:27
October 13 2013 02:41 GMT
#3592
On October 13 2013 11:18 Ketara wrote:
I want Urgot to be good.


Urgot is good, just extremely niche. Actually surprised we don't see it in the reign of Zed.
On October 13 2013 11:40 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 10:32 udgnim wrote:
low level MMR / ELO game

possibly stupid question

as ADC, should I focus on CS or go help the team when the other team is grouping up especially when my team likes to engage 4v5 or worse?

I think in higher MMR / ELO games players are able to defend tower 4v5 without going crazy correct?

asking because I finished a game with the most gold accumulated and was far ahead of the other ADC but still ended up losing


follow up question for low ELO / MMR

if team jungler or any team member that has not been performing well but wants to go for a risky tower dive or chase a target through river / enemy jungle without ward coverage, do I follow them on it and hope for the best or do I leave them on their Dora the Explorer expedition into possible death?

Check mini map, if you see all the laners in place, then follow, if nearby lane is MIA, ignore him.*

*also depend on how much minion you'd be losing to do invade.


Quantic can't even beat ggLA >.>
Things looking grim for them.
liftlift > tsm
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 13 2013 03:25 GMT
#3593
On October 13 2013 11:40 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 10:32 udgnim wrote:
low level MMR / ELO game

possibly stupid question

as ADC, should I focus on CS or go help the team when the other team is grouping up especially when my team likes to engage 4v5 or worse?

I think in higher MMR / ELO games players are able to defend tower 4v5 without going crazy correct?

asking because I finished a game with the most gold accumulated and was far ahead of the other ADC but still ended up losing


follow up question for low ELO / MMR

if team jungler or any team member that has not been performing well but wants to go for a risky tower dive or chase a target through river / enemy jungle without ward coverage, do I follow them on it and hope for the best or do I leave them on their Dora the Explorer expedition into possible death?


Depends. If you're tower diving, generally don't do it unless there are no MIAs and the target is 1-2 autos from dead. If the dive requires properly sharing tower aggro, it's usually not a good idea. If you're going for a buff or something, you can usually go if you have wards to cover yourself or you are fairly ahead, but it's more situational than that. Either way, if you decide not to go, tell the jungler through spam pings or chat. He might be salty short term, but you're saving the possibility that he goes anyway, he would have been safe with your help, but he dies without it. Which, even though unlikely ex ante, is rage-inducing ex post.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 03:51:08
October 13 2013 03:50 GMT
#3594
Quantic Gaming in a good lead against ggLA

LoL those facechecks
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 13 2013 03:57 GMT
#3595
On October 13 2013 12:50 Chexx wrote:
Quantic Gaming in a good lead against ggLA

LoL those facechecks


Are they all level 30 already?
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
October 13 2013 04:01 GMT
#3596
On October 13 2013 12:57 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 12:50 Chexx wrote:
Quantic Gaming in a good lead against ggLA

LoL those facechecks


Are they all level 30 already?

yes
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 04:17:59
October 13 2013 04:16 GMT
#3597
These casters have no idea what to think about top lane Hecarim.

They really should have acted more excited. Good casters go wild when oddball/niche picks happen.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2013 04:19 GMT
#3598
Talon ban? Did I miss something last game?
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 04:37:39
October 13 2013 04:26 GMT
#3599
On October 13 2013 13:19 Requizen wrote:
Talon ban? Did I miss something last game?


They recreated the lobby because a Master Yi pick was actually Thresh. Bans second time around were meaningless.

Edit: I just muted the casters. Wtb casting golems.

Edit2: Gunza is a freaking god with his flay timings.

Edit3: Unfortunately Apple is a dirty feeder and the game's snowballing against Quantic because of it.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 13 2013 04:41 GMT
#3600
On October 13 2013 13:16 Seuss wrote:
These casters have no idea what to think about top lane Hecarim.

They really should have acted more excited. Good casters go wild when oddball/niche picks happen.


Don't really see him that different from a top lane Shyvana. Similar roles, similar team fight abilities. Definitely oddball.
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