EPT[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 69
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Slusher
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:22 Slusher wrote: I don't know I'm not sold on Lucian needing nerfs, he seems pretty cool/strong but he's not even the best adc in the game atm. (or 2nd) he just seems to be good, which is good if it ends up panning out that way. He's one of the first champions in a while i've thought showed riot had some sense of how power curves should work in a game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:16 Slusher wrote: the range on Q is prohibitive vs. a lot of popular tanks but in theory yes. Well he's gotta hit something anyway if he wants to make himself useful, hasn't he? So waiting (or positioning himself) for an opportunity to Q to a squishy through the frontline rather than use it immediatly to deal additional damage to the frontline could be a way to contribute more. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:24 Alaric wrote: Well he's gotta hit something anyway if he wants to make himself useful, hasn't he? So waiting (or positioning himself) for an opportunity to Q to a squishy through the frontline rather than use it immediatly to deal additional damage to the frontline could be a way to contribute more. I mean that is mostly true but Ideally you want to kite their tanks back into your tanks before engaging, if it is lined up at this point then yes you are right, I guess I just pictured the original quote to be lucian trying to do pre fight poke which is stupid for obvious reasons. I don't think he's as bad in team fights as people are saying? are you maxing E second? are you getting BT first? I still haven't tried triforce yet, so I'm waiting for a report on that, and MF/Jayce style builds are going to need to wait till the q mana bug is gone because as is they just don't work out atm. On August 27 2013 10:27 PrinceXizor wrote: I've come around pretty heavily toward hybrid penetration marks and Arpen Quints Armor/level seals and mres/lvl and a few mana regen glyphs. Then grabbing Wits end + bruta + last whisper. it FEELS like it hits his timing more smoothly and it feels like you are killing stuff at the right times and rates. armor/lvl yellows is basically throwing his lane strength in the toilet. not sure why you'd want split pen his W is ass and should be a 1 point wonder for the speed boost only. unless you are trying to maximize wit's damage?? pls px. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:19 PrinceXizor wrote: I think thresh is where he should be, but more supports need to be there. What, so we could have more support bans? Grumblegrumblegrumble I hate that my two hookcity champs are permabanned, I pretty much don't ranked anymore because of it.  | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:28 Slusher wrote: I still haven't tried triforce yet, so I'm waiting for a report on that, and MF/Jayce style builds are going to need to wait till the q mana bug is gone because as is they just don't work out atm. I Really really like triforce on him, but just rushing penetration and wits end has paid off quite a bit that i'm unsure if the benefits of a fast triforce outweigh the benefits of the mentioned build. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:30 Zdrastochye wrote: What, so we could have more support bans? Grumblegrumblegrumble I hate that my two hookcity champs are permabanned, I pretty much don't ranked anymore because of it. It would be nice to see some more supports. Honestly I think support needs to have a "holy trinity" like ADC used to, except that should be Lulu, Janna, and Nami. Thresh, as a tier 1 support is really annoying because hooks in this game are really annoying. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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Klonopin
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I wouldn't agree that he trails off late game either. I havent once thought that, and I have played 4-5 full item build games with him. Just with the way attack speed and cdr scale into his kit... I dont think you can say he trails off at all. my only complaint is dat ult. I just use it to farm waves mid-late game hah. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I should do some math to compare auto-ing vs ulting at levels 6 and 11, and which build is stronger at the 2 item timing (as in how does crit for his passive fare against additional AD for his spells). | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:37 cLutZ wrote: It would be nice to see some more supports. Honestly I think support needs to have a "holy trinity" like ADC used to, except that should be Lulu, Janna, and Nami. Thresh, as a tier 1 support is really annoying because hooks in this game are really annoying. Riot needs to come out with 5 more hook champs so they can't all be banned out, then I'll be happy. I'm quite sad that Blitz/Thresh have been permabanned for so long. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:27 PrinceXizor wrote: I've come around pretty heavily toward hybrid penetration marks and Arpen Quints Armor/level seals and mres/lvl and a few mana regen glyphs. Then grabbing Wits end + bruta + last whisper. it FEELS like it hits his timing more smoothly and it feels like you are killing stuff at the right times and rates. sometimes I wonder if your mechanical skill is actually two or three divisions ahead of where you are and you get held back because you insist on using suboptimal builds. armor/level? seriously? Like, if you drop me in bronze I could probably carry games despite building shit like wit's on AD carries, but it doesn't make it a good build. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On August 27 2013 10:27 PrinceXizor wrote: I've come around pretty heavily toward hybrid penetration marks and Arpen Quints Armor/level seals and mres/lvl and a few mana regen glyphs. Then grabbing Wits end + bruta + last whisper. it FEELS like it hits his timing more smoothly and it feels like you are killing stuff at the right times and rates. I don't often come in and play heavy-handed moderation when it comes to theorycraft but this is irritating me
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On August 27 2013 11:11 Zdrastochye wrote: Riot needs to come out with 5 more hook champs so they can't all be banned out, then I'll be happy. I'm quite sad that Blitz/Thresh have been permabanned for so long. I would be onboard with Blitz/Thresh hooks, if they were ultimate skills with 40+Second cooldowns. The problem is you have a skill that is (realistically) super easy to hit, to gamechanging effects, on a short cooldown. That is almost always available. At least with blitz his hook has a ridiculous mana cost and the rest of his kit is kinda crappy, but thresh... | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On August 27 2013 11:21 MoonBear wrote: I don't often come in and play heavy-handed moderation when it comes to theorycraft but this is irritating me
I'm sure we'll have answer as to how you're wrong fairly shortly, MB. | ||
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canikizu
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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