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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On August 04 2013 19:44 JonGalt wrote: What about playing her Mid? And why don't people play her mid? Thanks for support build though! @Gahlo:  I'll be back in 18 months and you can carry me with your J4 again. Zyra is still an awesome mid, just not played very much for whatever reason | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Also. Brood War is so much fucking fun. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins) | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote: That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins) I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On August 04 2013 19:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Zyra is still an awesome mid, just not played very much for whatever reason Q max is best in Mid IMO. Best damage, low cooldown. EDIT: Whoops, realised you were talking Support Zyra. I max all skills simultaneously because I'm noob like that. Same with Nami. Can't pick what to go for. I'd say she isn't used in mid much because she is super squishy. Assassins just wreck her like no tomorrow. But by god the utility... I do love me some Zyra mid. Also her AA animation has got to be S tier. | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 04 2013 18:04 locodoco wrote: visage made shen and zak so broken i think those 2 are must bans right now even with the bulwalk removal i think double ap is dead due to visage being so strong fucking dumb item to be fair they are broken for quite some time | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:05 JonGalt wrote: I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins. Wukong/Eve/Irelia/Ashe/Zyra vs Shen/Nocturne/Karthus/Vayne/Nami http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien/c/2686989 teamfight times if you're interested (some scrappy stuff like 33:30 i think as well) 27:35 (enemy wins) 29:25 (enemy wins) 31:36 (even) 35:42 (even) 39:20 (enemy wins) 43:59 (even) 46:32 (even) 49:14 (ally win) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:05 JonGalt wrote: I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins. People do voluntary donations as well even if it gets you nothing in return .-. I don't really like buying skins but I can see why you'd want to support a game you've played for hundreds or thousands of games. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote: That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins) Honestly that seems a bit ironic. The fact that you care so much what other strangers think of you that you purposely do something for the sole purpose of them not judging your own vanity. People have all sorts of reasons for buying or not buying skins and I don't think you should ever assume the reasoning behind it. Coming up with some excuse that leaves you on some "higher ground" is pretty pathetic. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On August 04 2013 20:56 Shikyo wrote: People do voluntary donations as well even if it gets you nothing in return .-. I don't really like buying skins but I can see why you'd want to support a game you've played for hundreds or thousands of games. I spend money on the game because I like to support Riot, I just don't want to spend that money on skins that don't have an effect on the game. I totally get why people would buy skins though. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 04 2013 21:16 JonGalt wrote: I wanted to buy skins with the 50 euros I decided that the game had finally deserved but ended up being able to only afford one after buying mass rune pages and some on-sale champions :/ I spend money on the game because I like to support Riot, I just don't want to spend that money on skins that don't have an effect on the game. I totally get why people would buy skins though. Oh yeah and steel legion lux is pay-to-win so if you play Lux you should get it. I swear the snare is a homing missile | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
But only Soniv plays her here and when he's not absent he prefers to stream Kha'Zix. :> | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
I swear to god if he stopped playing AD and just massed Zyra he'd be dia1 in the 50's within 2 weeks. | ||
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chinstrap
United Kingdom253 Posts
I ended up running round W E Ring over walls from their jungle and just 1 shotting people. Is ap trist actually a thing? What should I look for in champ select to stop me playing it? I'm at around a 70% win rate on trist (mostly ad though) over a 40 game heater through gold. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
R > E > W > Q (don't put any points in it until you have to) DFG, Lich, Dcap, Nashor's are definitely core. You are an early game and mid game god, but late game and 5v5s are tough because after you blow your combo you kinda don't do anything (and only squishies die to your combo late game). Small skirmishes are your friends. Spam E to harass and push mid and take the tower as soon as you can. Kill your laner as soon as you hit 6. Your goal is to farm the opposing mid laner and make him useless. Then you really want to snowball your other lanes and let them get the kills because they will be most likely be more useful later. In 5v5s if you can position it right you could probably unleash your combo, zhona, and then W out assuming your teammates killed someone. You can also play safe from the backline and use your range to apply nashors from afar and save R for that annoying gap closing champion jumping on your carry. Or you could do what an AP trist did to me and get so many kills you force a 20 minute FF. CDR and AP are definitely your biggest priorities cause your E and W cooldowns are rather large and your ratios and base damage are crazy good. Ward their jungle heavily because if you see their squishy farming wraiths you can W DFG E AA R and then W out before they even realize they are dead. You can actually unleash your full combo while in the air of W if you are quick enough. I would rush DFG as your first item. Actually, what do people think about rushing a DFG and exploiting your stupid AP ratios in the early and mid game, and then transition to a traditional AD build? Edit: I would look to play it against melee champions or champions that don't have a great way to waveclear early or last hit under tower easily. You really want to be taking the mid tower ASAP and grab control. Always spam E and save W for a sure kill or when the jungler comes. | ||
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Myrick
26 Posts
On August 04 2013 22:12 chinstrap wrote: What are peoples thoughts on AP trist? I just played it mid because of a fucked up champ select, continued to feed the ememy lux 3 kills between myself and my jungler before 10 mins but who cares when you can chunk 80% lux hp with 3 skills even when you are behind? I ended up running round W E Ring over walls from their jungle and just 1 shotting people. Is ap trist actually a thing? What should I look for in champ select to stop me playing it? I'm at around a 70% win rate on trist (mostly ad though) over a 40 game heater through gold. Hell yes AP Trist is a thing. She's really similar too Leblanc. I actually think she's got a stronger lane phase and maybe midgame but a much riskier teamfight. Because LB can dash back without resets, has her passive and her W cooldown is ridiculously low lategame (6s). I'd be interested to see a comp built around her. | ||
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