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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 04 2013 10:49 GMT
#1961
On August 04 2013 19:44 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 19:38 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On August 04 2013 18:55 JonGalt wrote:
Diana will def go on the list. And Kat will never come off - one of, if not my favorite champions.

And is there no Zyra thread!? The only one I found was a Zyra Support thread (very poorly done) where people (except for Monte) mostly shat on the guy for going Zyra support hahaha.


Mpen/Hybrid reds
Flat armor yellows
Flat MR blues
GP10 quints

R>E>W>Q (Q over W is also possible)
Practise the whole plant spawning mechanic a lot, land skill shots, get used to timing of R and passive, rape face. She's really strong with Varus and Ashe.


What about playing her Mid? And why don't people play her mid? Thanks for support build though!

@Gahlo: I'll be back in 18 months and you can carry me with your J4 again.

Zyra is still an awesome mid, just not played very much for whatever reason
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 11:03:49
August 04 2013 10:57 GMT
#1962
Yah I had one crush me when I was home. I think I was playing Kat. Also had an AP trist force a 20 min surrender. I was playing Kass. Dude had about 11 kills in 10 minutes.

Also. Brood War is so much fucking fun.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 04 2013 11:03 GMT
#1963
That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins)
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
August 04 2013 11:05 GMT
#1964
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote:
That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins)


I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 11:18:32
August 04 2013 11:14 GMT
#1965
On August 04 2013 19:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 19:44 JonGalt wrote:
On August 04 2013 19:38 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On August 04 2013 18:55 JonGalt wrote:
Diana will def go on the list. And Kat will never come off - one of, if not my favorite champions.

And is there no Zyra thread!? The only one I found was a Zyra Support thread (very poorly done) where people (except for Monte) mostly shat on the guy for going Zyra support hahaha.


Mpen/Hybrid reds
Flat armor yellows
Flat MR blues
GP10 quints

R>E>W>Q (Q over W is also possible)
Practise the whole plant spawning mechanic a lot, land skill shots, get used to timing of R and passive, rape face. She's really strong with Varus and Ashe.


What about playing her Mid? And why don't people play her mid? Thanks for support build though!

@Gahlo: I'll be back in 18 months and you can carry me with your J4 again.

Zyra is still an awesome mid, just not played very much for whatever reason


Q max is best in Mid IMO. Best damage, low cooldown. EDIT: Whoops, realised you were talking Support Zyra. I max all skills simultaneously because I'm noob like that. Same with Nami. Can't pick what to go for.

I'd say she isn't used in mid much because she is super squishy. Assassins just wreck her like no tomorrow. But by god the utility... I do love me some Zyra mid.

Also her AA animation has got to be S tier.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
August 04 2013 11:44 GMT
#1966
I love Cloud 9 so much. Everytime I pick Ashe someone volunteers to support Zyra.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 11:54:06
August 04 2013 11:49 GMT
#1967
On August 04 2013 18:04 locodoco wrote:
visage made shen and zak so broken i think those 2 are must bans right now
even with the bulwalk removal i think double ap is dead due to visage being so strong
fucking dumb item

to be fair they are broken for quite some time
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 12:02:19
August 04 2013 11:55 GMT
#1968
On August 04 2013 20:05 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote:
That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins)


I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins.


Wukong/Eve/Irelia/Ashe/Zyra vs Shen/Nocturne/Karthus/Vayne/Nami
http://www.twitch.tv/mr_tolkien/c/2686989
teamfight times if you're interested (some scrappy stuff like 33:30 i think as well)
27:35 (enemy wins)
29:25 (enemy wins)
31:36 (even)
35:42 (even)
39:20 (enemy wins)
43:59 (even)
46:32 (even)
49:14 (ally win)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 11:57:02
August 04 2013 11:56 GMT
#1969
On August 04 2013 20:05 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote:
That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins)


I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins.

People do voluntary donations as well even if it gets you nothing in return .-.

I don't really like buying skins but I can see why you'd want to support a game you've played for hundreds or thousands of games.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
August 04 2013 12:02 GMT
#1970
So now i have every rune, 20 rune pages and every champion in the game. Proud much?
hi
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 04 2013 12:04 GMT
#1971
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote:
That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins)


Honestly that seems a bit ironic. The fact that you care so much what other strangers think of you that you purposely do something for the sole purpose of them not judging your own vanity.

People have all sorts of reasons for buying or not buying skins and I don't think you should ever assume the reasoning behind it. Coming up with some excuse that leaves you on some "higher ground" is pretty pathetic.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
August 04 2013 12:16 GMT
#1972
On August 04 2013 20:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 20:05 JonGalt wrote:
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote:
That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins)


I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins.

People do voluntary donations as well even if it gets you nothing in return .-.

I don't really like buying skins but I can see why you'd want to support a game you've played for hundreds or thousands of games.


I spend money on the game because I like to support Riot, I just don't want to spend that money on skins that don't have an effect on the game. I totally get why people would buy skins though.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 04 2013 12:17 GMT
#1973
Some skins definitely have an effect on the game.Steel legion lux/iblitz are some good examples of this.Their skill animations are a lot harder to dodge.There is a reason they are banned in lcs....
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
August 04 2013 12:36 GMT
#1974
True, but in theory skins shouldn't have any effect on the game other than aesthetics.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 12:41:46
August 04 2013 12:41 GMT
#1975
On August 04 2013 21:16 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 20:56 Shikyo wrote:
On August 04 2013 20:05 JonGalt wrote:
On August 04 2013 20:03 Scip wrote:
That epicest game tolkien was pretty epic indeed
anyway, every base skin is better than a bought skin, because buying skins exposes your vanity. That's why I never buy skins nor have I do I ever use the ones I've aquired for free (so as to not be mistaken with someone who buys skins)


I feel the sam exact way. Except I don't buy skins cause why waste the money? If I spends money I will buy champs or runes - never skins.

People do voluntary donations as well even if it gets you nothing in return .-.

I don't really like buying skins but I can see why you'd want to support a game you've played for hundreds or thousands of games.


I spend money on the game because I like to support Riot, I just don't want to spend that money on skins that don't have an effect on the game. I totally get why people would buy skins though.
I wanted to buy skins with the 50 euros I decided that the game had finally deserved but ended up being able to only afford one after buying mass rune pages and some on-sale champions :/

Oh yeah and steel legion lux is pay-to-win so if you play Lux you should get it. I swear the snare is a homing missile
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 04 2013 12:52 GMT
#1976
Zyra's 0.2 on-hit AP ratio almost makes you forget how broken the base damage is. 64 damage plant with 0.8 AS and 50% more damage if another plant hits you, at level 5. x_x And that's while maxing another spell so with a single auto from each plant she outdamages your burst.

But only Soniv plays her here and when he's not absent he prefers to stream Kha'Zix. :>
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#1977
Broken Watch has the beastiest Zyra you've ever seen
I swear to god if he stopped playing AD and just massed Zyra he'd be dia1 in the 50's within 2 weeks.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
August 04 2013 13:12 GMT
#1978
What are peoples thoughts on AP trist? I just played it mid because of a fucked up champ select, continued to feed the ememy lux 3 kills between myself and my jungler before 10 mins but who cares when you can chunk 80% lux hp with 3 skills even when you are behind?

I ended up running round W E Ring over walls from their jungle and just 1 shotting people. Is ap trist actually a thing? What should I look for in champ select to stop me playing it?

I'm at around a 70% win rate on trist (mostly ad though) over a 40 game heater through gold.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 13:41:02
August 04 2013 13:35 GMT
#1979
I used to play AP Trist and it is quite good if the enemy doesn't expect it.

R > E > W > Q (don't put any points in it until you have to)

DFG, Lich, Dcap, Nashor's are definitely core. You are an early game and mid game god, but late game and 5v5s are tough because after you blow your combo you kinda don't do anything (and only squishies die to your combo late game). Small skirmishes are your friends. Spam E to harass and push mid and take the tower as soon as you can. Kill your laner as soon as you hit 6. Your goal is to farm the opposing mid laner and make him useless. Then you really want to snowball your other lanes and let them get the kills because they will be most likely be more useful later. In 5v5s if you can position it right you could probably unleash your combo, zhona, and then W out assuming your teammates killed someone. You can also play safe from the backline and use your range to apply nashors from afar and save R for that annoying gap closing champion jumping on your carry. Or you could do what an AP trist did to me and get so many kills you force a 20 minute FF.

CDR and AP are definitely your biggest priorities cause your E and W cooldowns are rather large and your ratios and base damage are crazy good. Ward their jungle heavily because if you see their squishy farming wraiths you can W DFG E AA R and then W out before they even realize they are dead. You can actually unleash your full combo while in the air of W if you are quick enough. I would rush DFG as your first item.

Actually, what do people think about rushing a DFG and exploiting your stupid AP ratios in the early and mid game, and then transition to a traditional AD build?

Edit: I would look to play it against melee champions or champions that don't have a great way to waveclear early or last hit under tower easily. You really want to be taking the mid tower ASAP and grab control. Always spam E and save W for a sure kill or when the jungler comes.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Myrick
Profile Joined March 2013
26 Posts
August 04 2013 13:38 GMT
#1980
I feel like Zyra mid is one of the REALLY matchup dependent champs. She just absolutely crushes come champs but then others she feels totally helpless against, idk. Her burst is unreal, I know xPeke used to play her quite a bit. I think he stacked 3 or 4 RoAs on her once in a tournament.

On August 04 2013 22:12 chinstrap wrote:
What are peoples thoughts on AP trist? I just played it mid because of a fucked up champ select, continued to feed the ememy lux 3 kills between myself and my jungler before 10 mins but who cares when you can chunk 80% lux hp with 3 skills even when you are behind?

I ended up running round W E Ring over walls from their jungle and just 1 shotting people. Is ap trist actually a thing? What should I look for in champ select to stop me playing it?

I'm at around a 70% win rate on trist (mostly ad though) over a 40 game heater through gold.


Hell yes AP Trist is a thing. She's really similar too Leblanc. I actually think she's got a stronger lane phase and maybe midgame but a much riskier teamfight. Because LB can dash back without resets, has her passive and her W cooldown is ridiculously low lategame (6s). I'd be interested to see a comp built around her.
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