[Patch 3.10: Yimake Patch] General Discussion - Page 300

Can't really make that kind of comparison since Dota has a ton of gamemodes. Maps in LoL are more akin to gamemodes in dota. I mean has anyone here ever played(or even heard) Capture Point in dota. It's pretty hilarious just btw. Then there's -ardmwtf which deserves it's own mention. People also got really into that map where you would choose your own abilities(can't recall name).

I do feel like there's a lot more that can be done when it comes to maps. Don't really know why they took the generic route with it(CP map, 3 lane normal dota). This most likely all comes down to revenue streams. Maps don't make any money for riot. Only champions and skins do.

Ketara

United States15065 Posts

August 19 2013 15:44 GMT

#5984

Yeah I would definitely like to see more game modes, not less.

mr_tolkien

France8631 Posts

August 19 2013 15:48 GMT

#5985

Everybody here is waiting for a sandbox mode...

Osmoses

Sweden5302 Posts

August 19 2013 15:52 GMT

#5986

I think Aram and Dominion are great ^.^

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

August 19 2013 15:59 GMT

#5987

On August 20 2013 00:00 The_Unseen wrote:

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Yeah, that's what everyone keeps telling me. Funny how I started last Wednesday and still get 300 xp per 6-7mn game :D

i just tried it and my lvl 24~ish account only gets 40 XP for a win. with double boost that'd be 120 :/

how exactly do you get 300 per game

I actually like all the game modes. Although I guess 3v3 is the most boring one comparatively, but the main problem here is not the mode, it's finding people to play it, heh.

dottycakes

Canada548 Posts

August 19 2013 16:08 GMT

#5988

Duration boosts also boosts the xp gained from per win boosts.

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

August 19 2013 16:27 GMT

#5989

Dominion in particular is a disaster. Think of all the art and game design resources they wasted on that.

The_Unseen

France1923 Posts

August 19 2013 16:28 GMT

#5990

On August 20 2013 00:59 Dandel Ion wrote:

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I don't know mate, I'm not an expert in any way, all I know is I made a new account a couple of days ago, bought double XP buff and get 300 xp per game, I can post a screen when I'm back home if u want

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

August 19 2013 16:36 GMT

#5991

Dominion is amazing, its just scrubcore SR elitists keepin' the scene down man.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

August 19 2013 16:38 GMT

#5992

i think dominion and new 3v3 both show critical design flaws. they figured that SR was too serious and people loved aram so they wanted to make something more dynamic but with lots of fights. The problem is that fights are too random and chaotic and people are dying all the time so theres no build up of tension so it gets boring pretty fast. With ARAM the tension build up and release comes from poking-->fights break out or just dying and getting new items.

For example penalties in football might be veryexciting in the Champions League but if you designed a game just around penatlies it would get boring because theres no tension around it

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

August 19 2013 16:39 GMT

#5993

There are so many significant issues with dominion but the overall theme is that it's a game that emulates what scrub fives feels like. Every area is 20 feet wide so you play without positioning, gold and xp are granted automatically so you don't farm and everybody moves up the power curve at the same pace, there's no wards so you kind of wander around without vision, etc. If you were firing up lol for the first time there'd basically be no visible difference between dominion and SR except that one is round.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure both people who play dominion regularly are having a good time in their seven hour queues. There are just reasons it doesn't appeal to anyone else.

sylverfyre

United States8298 Posts

August 19 2013 16:40 GMT

#5994

On August 19 2013 23:56 Sponkz wrote:

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On August 19 2013 21:10 Simberto wrote:

On August 19 2013 21:05 SagaZ wrote:

On August 19 2013 21:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:

On August 19 2013 21:02 SagaZ wrote:

On August 19 2013 20:34 Sponkz wrote:

On August 19 2013 20:28 SagaZ wrote:

On August 19 2013 20:22 Sponkz wrote:

On August 19 2013 20:17 mr_tolkien wrote:

On August 19 2013 20:11 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
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He said Diamond I, not simply all Diamond players. If 1.2% of all players are Diamond V or higher, its reasonable that less than 0,1% is Diamond I or higher.

Diamond I is ~0.25% according to the graph. Not 0.0125%...

I'm Diamond I and I'm terrible as fuck lol, It's a pretty big group.

Yeah, i was just crunching some numbers, i didn't have the much needed data that you have provided

Still 0,25% is pretty lulzy.

Wasn't me who said 0,5% was plat 1 or higher ^^

On August 19 2013 19:51 Simberto wrote:
Yeah, but that has the same problem as warding mid. I just can't walk there and leave my adc alone in lane for 30+ seconds.

It shouldn't take you that long, perhaps 10-15 seconds at max.

And then there's the akward moment when their botlane colapse on you because they saw you going there and your adc does nothing.
I mean obviously deep wards are better than river wards, but there's a lot of risk involved in going so deep into enemy territory, especially at the beggining of the game.

There is no risk, warding your own jungle, brother.

My bad, missunderstood

This quote chain is getting ridiculous.

I think it can only get better

I just tested it. The way from a reasonable position in front of their tower to a place where you can ward behind your red buff takes ~13 seconds at 330 MS, which is what i have at that point in the game as a supp without wards. Since it takes the same amount of time to go back, that would make it 26 seconds. The way from the same position to a place where i can ward ~ my wraiths, which is strictly superior to behind your red since it also helps your mid, takes ~ 15 seconds.

Both mean that i am out of lane for 30 seconds and my AD is most likely dead because he is bad and gets engaged upon the second i leave lane.

BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO

You should NEVER EVER EVER go further than river brush when both you and your AD are in lane. No exception. Even if you have to ward drake, you ward it over the wall, when you know your AD is safe. When you wanna ward something like that place behind red buff like i suggested, you do while you move back to lane. That way your AD is only alone for like 5-10 seconds.

Simberto wasn't the one who suggested walking away from bot lane for 30 seconds to trek through your own jungle and ward wraithramp in the first place :p Note how he said "i'm out of lane for 30 seconds and my AD is most likely dead."

Sometimes you CAN manage to get away with properly warding Drake - or some other distant location - when you shove the enemy AD+sup into tower and there aren't any creeps to last hit anyway, but yeah. Leaving bot lane at bad times is something a lot of inexperienced supports do (I have learned the hard way to stop doing this) then they wonder why their AD "is bad and gets engaged on the second I leave lane" - hint: it's not because your AD is bad, it's because you picked a time when your AD has only one option - run away from enemy duo and get chased ALL THE WAY BACK TO TOWER, losing last hits, CS, while probably getting hit unavoidably because supports generally have higher movespeed than bootless carries, due to higher base MS / possibly 21 utility. (This whole scenario usually happens early enough that AD hasn't even considered buying boots yet.)

God forbid he gets hit by ANY KIND OF CC (including the impossible to miss exhaust) by this higher-MS support (Lulu, Janna, Leona, Blitz, Thresh, Nami) and loses flash or dies. Or the support is sona, so he doesn't get CC'd, merely combo'd for over half his health by auto-Q-chord + whatever the enemy AD can do.

TLDR: if your AD is not ALREADY way out of range when you start walking towards the river to ward anything (even tribush), you're inviting an immediate engagement from the enemy duo.

Badboyrune

Sweden2247 Posts

August 19 2013 16:40 GMT

#5995

Scrubcore is a great word. It sounds like a weird hardcore subgenre.

Or people that are simultaneously hardcore and terrible at something. Which I guess applies to a lot of gamers.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

August 19 2013 16:45 GMT

#5996

Operation Jungle Japers is go. For the rest of the day, with a few interruptions, I will be jungling whatever the peanut gallery tells me to.

http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol

WiseBagus

Canada452 Posts

August 19 2013 16:51 GMT

#5997

On August 20 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote:
Operation Jungle Japers is go. For the rest of the day, with a few interruptions, I will be jungling whatever the peanut gallery tells me to.

http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol

gg no 240P what is this 2018?
Data caps in Canada hurt.