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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 19 2013 15:32 GMT
#5981
On August 20 2013 00:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
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On August 19 2013 16:16 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Riots already made 3 more maps then dota's ever had.

And two more maps than lol's ever needed.

I enjoy TT ever now and again.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 19 2013 15:35 GMT
#5982
On August 20 2013 00:32 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On August 20 2013 00:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
On August 19 2013 16:16 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Riots already made 3 more maps then dota's ever had.

And two more maps than lol's ever needed.

I enjoy TT ever now and again.

Yeah, same, but that's about as far as it goes, and it's a resource drain. I'd rather have all that cash put into Sr.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 15:37:41
August 19 2013 15:37 GMT
#5983
Can't really make that kind of comparison since Dota has a ton of gamemodes. Maps in LoL are more akin to gamemodes in dota. I mean has anyone here ever played(or even heard) Capture Point in dota. It's pretty hilarious just btw. Then there's -ardmwtf which deserves it's own mention. People also got really into that map where you would choose your own abilities(can't recall name).

I do feel like there's a lot more that can be done when it comes to maps. Don't really know why they took the generic route with it(CP map, 3 lane normal dota). This most likely all comes down to revenue streams. Maps don't make any money for riot. Only champions and skins do.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
August 19 2013 15:44 GMT
#5984
Yeah I would definitely like to see more game modes, not less.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 19 2013 15:48 GMT
#5985
Everybody here is waiting for a sandbox mode...
The legend of Darien lives on
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 19 2013 15:52 GMT
#5986
I think Aram and Dominion are great ^.^
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 16:00:39
August 19 2013 15:59 GMT
#5987
On August 20 2013 00:00 The_Unseen wrote:
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On August 19 2013 23:29 Gahlo wrote:
On August 19 2013 19:37 The_Unseen wrote:
On August 19 2013 00:44 AsnSensation wrote:
whats the fastest way to level an account with xp boost, someone on reddit mentioned sth about 1v1 twisted treeline?


I might be late to the party, but I'm doing it now and it works great :

- Gogo Twisted Treeline Custom game Team size 1
- Add Bot Soraka Beginner
- Pick master yi with heal / smite
- Buy Ichor of Rage (or whatever the TT red pot is called), 5 health pots 4 mana pots
- push the botlane to the nexus, you should win in 6 minutes.

It might take a couple of tries to optimize it (heal for the first cannon wave, smite on first minion then it's up for every enemy cannon minion, ONLY use red pot once you're hitting the tower, focus the towers hardcore, never activate Wuju Style).

With double XP boosts, you make like 300/350 Xp a game, so you need between 100 and 120 of those to be level 30

That got nerfed, actually.


Yeah, that's what everyone keeps telling me. Funny how I started last Wednesday and still get 300 xp per 6-7mn game :D

i just tried it and my lvl 24~ish account only gets 40 XP for a win. with double boost that'd be 120 :/

how exactly do you get 300 per game



I actually like all the game modes. Although I guess 3v3 is the most boring one comparatively, but the main problem here is not the mode, it's finding people to play it, heh.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
dottycakes
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada548 Posts
August 19 2013 16:08 GMT
#5988
Duration boosts also boosts the xp gained from per win boosts.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 19 2013 16:27 GMT
#5989
Dominion in particular is a disaster. Think of all the art and game design resources they wasted on that.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 19 2013 16:28 GMT
#5990
On August 20 2013 00:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 00:00 The_Unseen wrote:
On August 19 2013 23:29 Gahlo wrote:
On August 19 2013 19:37 The_Unseen wrote:
On August 19 2013 00:44 AsnSensation wrote:
whats the fastest way to level an account with xp boost, someone on reddit mentioned sth about 1v1 twisted treeline?


I might be late to the party, but I'm doing it now and it works great :

- Gogo Twisted Treeline Custom game Team size 1
- Add Bot Soraka Beginner
- Pick master yi with heal / smite
- Buy Ichor of Rage (or whatever the TT red pot is called), 5 health pots 4 mana pots
- push the botlane to the nexus, you should win in 6 minutes.

It might take a couple of tries to optimize it (heal for the first cannon wave, smite on first minion then it's up for every enemy cannon minion, ONLY use red pot once you're hitting the tower, focus the towers hardcore, never activate Wuju Style).

With double XP boosts, you make like 300/350 Xp a game, so you need between 100 and 120 of those to be level 30

That got nerfed, actually.


Yeah, that's what everyone keeps telling me. Funny how I started last Wednesday and still get 300 xp per 6-7mn game :D

i just tried it and my lvl 24~ish account only gets 40 XP for a win. with double boost that'd be 120 :/

how exactly do you get 300 per game



I actually like all the game modes. Although I guess 3v3 is the most boring one comparatively, but the main problem here is not the mode, it's finding people to play it, heh.


I don't know mate, I'm not an expert in any way, all I know is I made a new account a couple of days ago, bought double XP buff and get 300 xp per game, I can post a screen when I'm back home if u want
I got five reasons for you to shut up
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 19 2013 16:36 GMT
#5991
Dominion is amazing, its just scrubcore SR elitists keepin' the scene down man.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 16:40:30
August 19 2013 16:38 GMT
#5992
i think dominion and new 3v3 both show critical design flaws. they figured that SR was too serious and people loved aram so they wanted to make something more dynamic but with lots of fights. The problem is that fights are too random and chaotic and people are dying all the time so theres no build up of tension so it gets boring pretty fast. With ARAM the tension build up and release comes from poking-->fights break out or just dying and getting new items.

For example penalties in football might be veryexciting in the Champions League but if you designed a game just around penatlies it would get boring because theres no tension around it
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 16:44:03
August 19 2013 16:39 GMT
#5993
There are so many significant issues with dominion but the overall theme is that it's a game that emulates what scrub fives feels like. Every area is 20 feet wide so you play without positioning, gold and xp are granted automatically so you don't farm and everybody moves up the power curve at the same pace, there's no wards so you kind of wander around without vision, etc. If you were firing up lol for the first time there'd basically be no visible difference between dominion and SR except that one is round.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure both people who play dominion regularly are having a good time in their seven hour queues. There are just reasons it doesn't appeal to anyone else.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 16:45:35
August 19 2013 16:40 GMT
#5994
On August 19 2013 23:56 Sponkz wrote:
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On August 19 2013 21:10 Simberto wrote:
On August 19 2013 21:05 SagaZ wrote:
On August 19 2013 21:04 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 19 2013 21:02 SagaZ wrote:
On August 19 2013 20:34 Sponkz wrote:
On August 19 2013 20:28 SagaZ wrote:
On August 19 2013 20:22 Sponkz wrote:
On August 19 2013 20:17 mr_tolkien wrote:
On August 19 2013 20:11 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
[quote]

He said Diamond I, not simply all Diamond players. If 1.2% of all players are Diamond V or higher, its reasonable that less than 0,1% is Diamond I or higher.

Diamond I is ~0.25% according to the graph. Not 0.0125%...

I'm Diamond I and I'm terrible as fuck lol, It's a pretty big group.



Yeah, i was just crunching some numbers, i didn't have the much needed data that you have provided Still 0,25% is pretty lulzy.


Wasn't me who said 0,5% was plat 1 or higher ^^

On August 19 2013 19:51 Simberto wrote:
Yeah, but that has the same problem as warding mid. I just can't walk there and leave my adc alone in lane for 30+ seconds.



It shouldn't take you that long, perhaps 10-15 seconds at max.

And then there's the akward moment when their botlane colapse on you because they saw you going there and your adc does nothing.
I mean obviously deep wards are better than river wards, but there's a lot of risk involved in going so deep into enemy territory, especially at the beggining of the game.



There is no risk, warding your own jungle, brother.

My bad, missunderstood

This quote chain is getting ridiculous.

I think it can only get better


I just tested it. The way from a reasonable position in front of their tower to a place where you can ward behind your red buff takes ~13 seconds at 330 MS, which is what i have at that point in the game as a supp without wards. Since it takes the same amount of time to go back, that would make it 26 seconds. The way from the same position to a place where i can ward ~ my wraiths, which is strictly superior to behind your red since it also helps your mid, takes ~ 15 seconds.

Both mean that i am out of lane for 30 seconds and my AD is most likely dead because he is bad and gets engaged upon the second i leave lane.



BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO BRO

You should NEVER EVER EVER go further than river brush when both you and your AD are in lane. No exception. Even if you have to ward drake, you ward it over the wall, when you know your AD is safe. When you wanna ward something like that place behind red buff like i suggested, you do while you move back to lane. That way your AD is only alone for like 5-10 seconds.

Simberto wasn't the one who suggested walking away from bot lane for 30 seconds to trek through your own jungle and ward wraithramp in the first place :p Note how he said "i'm out of lane for 30 seconds and my AD is most likely dead."

Sometimes you CAN manage to get away with properly warding Drake - or some other distant location - when you shove the enemy AD+sup into tower and there aren't any creeps to last hit anyway, but yeah. Leaving bot lane at bad times is something a lot of inexperienced supports do (I have learned the hard way to stop doing this) then they wonder why their AD "is bad and gets engaged on the second I leave lane" - hint: it's not because your AD is bad, it's because you picked a time when your AD has only one option - run away from enemy duo and get chased ALL THE WAY BACK TO TOWER, losing last hits, CS, while probably getting hit unavoidably because supports generally have higher movespeed than bootless carries, due to higher base MS / possibly 21 utility. (This whole scenario usually happens early enough that AD hasn't even considered buying boots yet.)

God forbid he gets hit by ANY KIND OF CC (including the impossible to miss exhaust) by this higher-MS support (Lulu, Janna, Leona, Blitz, Thresh, Nami) and loses flash or dies. Or the support is sona, so he doesn't get CC'd, merely combo'd for over half his health by auto-Q-chord + whatever the enemy AD can do.

TLDR: if your AD is not ALREADY way out of range when you start walking towards the river to ward anything (even tribush), you're inviting an immediate engagement from the enemy duo.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
August 19 2013 16:40 GMT
#5995
Scrubcore is a great word. It sounds like a weird hardcore subgenre.

Or people that are simultaneously hardcore and terrible at something. Which I guess applies to a lot of gamers.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 19 2013 16:45 GMT
#5996
Operation Jungle Japers is go. For the rest of the day, with a few interruptions, I will be jungling whatever the peanut gallery tells me to.

http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
WiseBagus
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada452 Posts
August 19 2013 16:51 GMT
#5997
On August 20 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote:
Operation Jungle Japers is go. For the rest of the day, with a few interruptions, I will be jungling whatever the peanut gallery tells me to.

http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol

gg no 240P what is this 2018?
Data caps in Canada hurt.
"When you come at the King, you best not miss"
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 19 2013 16:54 GMT
#5998
On August 20 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote:
Operation Jungle Japers is go. For the rest of the day, with a few interruptions, I will be jungling whatever the peanut gallery tells me to.

http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol


Jungle Brand, make it happen
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 17:02:05
August 19 2013 17:01 GMT
#5999
On August 20 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote:
Operation Jungle Japers is go. For the rest of the day, with a few interruptions, I will be jungling whatever the peanut gallery tells me to.

http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol

Jungle Vlad plz. Show me how it works.
God Bless
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 17:03:06
August 19 2013 17:02 GMT
#6000
On August 20 2013 02:01 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 01:45 Seuss wrote:
Operation Jungle Japers is go. For the rest of the day, with a few interruptions, I will be jungling whatever the peanut gallery tells me to.

http://www.twitch.tv/montegomerylol

Jungle Vlad plz. Show me how it works.


Jungle Heimerdonger plz
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
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