• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:59
CEST 18:59
KST 01:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call0[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call Replay Review Process - What do you do? Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History
Tourneys
Toronto invitational lan 22 august Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals [ASL22] Ro24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4810 users

[Patch 3.10: Yimake Patch] General Discussion - Page 258

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 256 257 258 259 260 331 Next
No more bad posting
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:42:22
August 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#5141
On August 16 2013 03:40 XilDarkz wrote:
TIL from your Rammus guide that his ultimate damages towers. Why is split-push Rammus not a thing?

Please learn what all the champions do asap.
I mean this sincerely.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
August 15 2013 18:48 GMT
#5142
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:52:14
August 15 2013 18:50 GMT
#5143
On August 16 2013 03:40 XilDarkz wrote:
TIL from your Rammus guide that his ultimate damages towers. Why is split-push Rammus not a thing?

Rammus isn't much of a duelist, especially if he's using his ult on towers. For "run away" style split pushing, TP/ghost Singed is probably your go-to champ (among champs who can fit on lots of teams).
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 15 2013 18:52 GMT
#5144
Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
August 15 2013 18:56 GMT
#5145
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


Plus the lore is pretty interesting.

But yah. Gotta know what things in the game do. Kinda important. I said this before, but during champ select (and loading) you should really lol wiki the champions that are in the game. You can compare damage to see what trades are best, what the abilities do, etc.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12853 Posts
August 15 2013 19:00 GMT
#5146
Then what about champions that are great at 1v1 like lebanc (just off my head), got escape mechanics, clear waves quite fast but not good at killing towers?
Is breaking tower fast also a requirement?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
August 15 2013 19:03 GMT
#5147
the problem with that is that leblanc's escape mechanic is her waveclear
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 15 2013 19:19 GMT
#5148
On August 16 2013 03:52 mordek wrote:
Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?


His proxy wave-clear is actually extremely good via DBC, it's just rarely safe to do that against attentive opponents.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 15 2013 19:22 GMT
#5149
On August 16 2013 04:19 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:52 mordek wrote:
Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?


His proxy wave-clear is actually extremely good via DBC, it's just rarely safe to do that against attentive opponents.

Not to mention his escape can be really iffy. A stray minion or someone jumping in front of you will stop you and cancel your boost, leaving you a (relatively) easy target.

If you want to do something like that, lane Hecarim (or just jungle focusing on split pushing if your team can survive without you) does it better and chunks towers really hard if you opt for TF/IBG and spam Q.
It's your boy Guzma!
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 15 2013 19:22 GMT
#5150
On August 16 2013 03:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:40 XilDarkz wrote:
TIL from your Rammus guide that his ultimate damages towers. Why is split-push Rammus not a thing?

Please learn what all the champions do asap.
I mean this sincerely.


I check them out as I encounter them.

I've played Rammus before as well... I have King Rammus from trying out beta long time ago. Didn't have to buy him.
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 15 2013 19:25 GMT
#5151
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 19:30:20
August 15 2013 19:27 GMT
#5152
On August 16 2013 04:00 ETisME wrote:
Then what about champions that are great at 1v1 like lebanc (just off my head), got escape mechanics, clear waves quite fast but not good at killing towers?
Is breaking tower fast also a requirement?

Zed is very good 1v1, except he does kill towers pretty fast.

Edit: oh you meant for split pushing. Zed is still good really good, singed and shen are generally your go-to's though because they have easy escape and/or can get into a team fight fairly easily. And killing towers isn't really a requirement, as long as you aren't missing cs and keeping the wave really big behind you you're good.
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 15 2013 19:30 GMT
#5153
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#5154
On August 16 2013 04:30 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.

All the information is probably migrating to the base page in dropdowns.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 19:57:46
August 15 2013 19:52 GMT
#5155
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

The ability details are really useful, but do you really have to list for every ability whether it damages Black Shield or not?

Also, apparently troll pole / troll pool will let you avoid the delayed damage from time bombs and sharks, but not hemoplagues or death marks. Inconsistency FTW!
EDIT: Actually not that inconsistent. Untargetable(-but-not-invulnerable) lets you avoid delayed damage that has a visible countdown, but not those that don't. For some reason.
EDIT2: Or it's probably a case of delayed-damage-that-also-has-initial-damage vs the ones that don't.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2013 19:52 GMT
#5156
I'm going to say it again, LoL seriously needs a sandbox test mode and a combat log.
Moderator
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 15 2013 19:58 GMT
#5157
It needs replays too.
Replays are in Brood War, for crying out loud.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 15 2013 20:05 GMT
#5158
On August 16 2013 04:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 04:30 Requizen wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.

All the information is probably migrating to the base page in dropdowns.


Correct, you can find examples of it on a couple of the champion pages.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Lucian

Basically, instead of having an entire, separate "Ability Details" page, you can just see the details on the main page. It's waaaaay more convenient and snazzy.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2013 20:05 GMT
#5159
I find sandbox mode/combat log less excusable to be honest, because there's not really an excuse for Riot to not already have those things for their own internal testing.
Moderator
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
August 15 2013 20:09 GMT
#5160
On August 16 2013 04:58 kainzero wrote:
It needs replays too.
Replays are in Brood War, for crying out loud.

Soon(tm)
Prev 1 256 257 258 259 260 331 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
King of the Hill #260
EmpressLilyy47
Liquipedia
PiG Sty Festival
12:00
PiGFest Finals Day
Solar vs ReynorLIVE!
Serral vs TBD
PiGStarcraft1926
IntoTheiNu 1082
ComeBackTV 643
TaKeTV 452
IndyStarCraft 290
Rex116
3DClanTV 78
EnkiAlexander 56
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1926
IndyStarCraft 290
Rex 116
BRAT_OK 41
EmSc Tv 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 754
Mini 632
actioN 463
Soulkey 271
firebathero 200
sorry 92
Zeus 82
Hm[arnc] 58
Shine 55
Sharp 38
[ Show more ]
Bale 32
Rock 23
IntoTheRainbow 13
SilentControl 11
Dota 2
qojqva4940
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
fl0m5285
byalli1252
olofmeister1202
shoxiejesuss1150
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King159
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK11
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1676
FrodaN1116
Grubby588
Hui .180
KnowMe103
White-Ra87
Livibee47
Chillindude14
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1180
gamesdonequick157
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 0
EmSc2Tv 0
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 32
• Reevou 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3184
• Nemesis2013
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
17h 1m
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
23h 1m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 17h
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
1d 18h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.