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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:42:22
August 15 2013 18:42 GMT
#5141
On August 16 2013 03:40 XilDarkz wrote:
TIL from your Rammus guide that his ultimate damages towers. Why is split-push Rammus not a thing?

Please learn what all the champions do asap.
I mean this sincerely.
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silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
August 15 2013 18:48 GMT
#5142
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 18:52:14
August 15 2013 18:50 GMT
#5143
On August 16 2013 03:40 XilDarkz wrote:
TIL from your Rammus guide that his ultimate damages towers. Why is split-push Rammus not a thing?

Rammus isn't much of a duelist, especially if he's using his ult on towers. For "run away" style split pushing, TP/ghost Singed is probably your go-to champ (among champs who can fit on lots of teams).
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
August 15 2013 18:52 GMT
#5144
Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
August 15 2013 18:56 GMT
#5145
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


Plus the lore is pretty interesting.

But yah. Gotta know what things in the game do. Kinda important. I said this before, but during champ select (and loading) you should really lol wiki the champions that are in the game. You can compare damage to see what trades are best, what the abilities do, etc.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
August 15 2013 19:00 GMT
#5146
Then what about champions that are great at 1v1 like lebanc (just off my head), got escape mechanics, clear waves quite fast but not good at killing towers?
Is breaking tower fast also a requirement?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
August 15 2013 19:03 GMT
#5147
the problem with that is that leblanc's escape mechanic is her waveclear
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 15 2013 19:19 GMT
#5148
On August 16 2013 03:52 mordek wrote:
Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?


His proxy wave-clear is actually extremely good via DBC, it's just rarely safe to do that against attentive opponents.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 15 2013 19:22 GMT
#5149
On August 16 2013 04:19 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:52 mordek wrote:
Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?


His proxy wave-clear is actually extremely good via DBC, it's just rarely safe to do that against attentive opponents.

Not to mention his escape can be really iffy. A stray minion or someone jumping in front of you will stop you and cancel your boost, leaving you a (relatively) easy target.

If you want to do something like that, lane Hecarim (or just jungle focusing on split pushing if your team can survive without you) does it better and chunks towers really hard if you opt for TF/IBG and spam Q.
It's your boy Guzma!
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 15 2013 19:22 GMT
#5150
On August 16 2013 03:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:40 XilDarkz wrote:
TIL from your Rammus guide that his ultimate damages towers. Why is split-push Rammus not a thing?

Please learn what all the champions do asap.
I mean this sincerely.


I check them out as I encounter them.

I've played Rammus before as well... I have King Rammus from trying out beta long time ago. Didn't have to buy him.
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 15 2013 19:25 GMT
#5151
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
phathom321
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 19:30:20
August 15 2013 19:27 GMT
#5152
On August 16 2013 04:00 ETisME wrote:
Then what about champions that are great at 1v1 like lebanc (just off my head), got escape mechanics, clear waves quite fast but not good at killing towers?
Is breaking tower fast also a requirement?

Zed is very good 1v1, except he does kill towers pretty fast.

Edit: oh you meant for split pushing. Zed is still good really good, singed and shen are generally your go-to's though because they have easy escape and/or can get into a team fight fairly easily. And killing towers isn't really a requirement, as long as you aren't missing cs and keeping the wave really big behind you you're good.
"Dying in the line of duty is heroic, but dying while unemployed is just stupid." -L
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 15 2013 19:30 GMT
#5153
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
August 15 2013 19:35 GMT
#5154
On August 16 2013 04:30 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.

All the information is probably migrating to the base page in dropdowns.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 19:57:46
August 15 2013 19:52 GMT
#5155
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

The ability details are really useful, but do you really have to list for every ability whether it damages Black Shield or not?

Also, apparently troll pole / troll pool will let you avoid the delayed damage from time bombs and sharks, but not hemoplagues or death marks. Inconsistency FTW!
EDIT: Actually not that inconsistent. Untargetable(-but-not-invulnerable) lets you avoid delayed damage that has a visible countdown, but not those that don't. For some reason.
EDIT2: Or it's probably a case of delayed-damage-that-also-has-initial-damage vs the ones that don't.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2013 19:52 GMT
#5156
I'm going to say it again, LoL seriously needs a sandbox test mode and a combat log.
Moderator
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 15 2013 19:58 GMT
#5157
It needs replays too.
Replays are in Brood War, for crying out loud.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 15 2013 20:05 GMT
#5158
On August 16 2013 04:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 04:30 Requizen wrote:
On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:
On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details


"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.

All the information is probably migrating to the base page in dropdowns.


Correct, you can find examples of it on a couple of the champion pages.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Lucian

Basically, instead of having an entire, separate "Ability Details" page, you can just see the details on the main page. It's waaaaay more convenient and snazzy.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2013 20:05 GMT
#5159
I find sandbox mode/combat log less excusable to be honest, because there's not really an excuse for Riot to not already have those things for their own internal testing.
Moderator
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35142 Posts
August 15 2013 20:09 GMT
#5160
On August 16 2013 04:58 kainzero wrote:
It needs replays too.
Replays are in Brood War, for crying out loud.

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