Rammus isn't much of a duelist, especially if he's using his ult on towers. For "run away" style split pushing, TP/ghost Singed is probably your go-to champ (among champs who can fit on lots of teams).

mordek

United States12704 Posts

August 15 2013 18:52 GMT

#5144

Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?

JonGalt

Pootie too good!4331 Posts

August 15 2013 18:56 GMT

#5145

On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details

Plus the lore is pretty interesting.

But yah. Gotta know what things in the game do. Kinda important. I said this before, but during champ select (and loading) you should really lol wiki the champions that are in the game. You can compare damage to see what trades are best, what the abilities do, etc.

ETisME

12476 Posts

August 15 2013 19:00 GMT

#5146

Then what about champions that are great at 1v1 like lebanc (just off my head), got escape mechanics, clear waves quite fast but not good at killing towers?
Is breaking tower fast also a requirement?

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

August 15 2013 19:03 GMT

#5147

the problem with that is that leblanc's escape mechanic is her waveclear

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

August 15 2013 19:19 GMT

#5148

On August 16 2013 03:52 mordek wrote:
Not very experienced with Rammus but isn't his wave clear bad as well?

His proxy wave-clear is actually extremely good via DBC, it's just rarely safe to do that against attentive opponents.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

August 15 2013 19:22 GMT

#5149

On August 16 2013 04:19 Seuss wrote:

Show nested quote +

His proxy wave-clear is actually extremely good via DBC, it's just rarely safe to do that against attentive opponents.

Not to mention his escape can be really iffy. A stray minion or someone jumping in front of you will stop you and cancel your boost, leaving you a (relatively) easy target.

If you want to do something like that, lane Hecarim (or just jungle focusing on split pushing if your team can survive without you) does it better and chunks towers really hard if you opt for TF/IBG and spam Q.

XilDarkz

United States563 Posts

August 15 2013 19:22 GMT

#5150

On August 16 2013 03:42 NeoIllusions wrote:

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Please learn what all the champions do asap.
I mean this sincerely.

I check them out as I encounter them.

I've played Rammus before as well... I have King Rammus from trying out beta long time ago. Didn't have to buy him.

XilDarkz

United States563 Posts

August 15 2013 19:25 GMT

#5151

On August 16 2013 03:48 silencefc wrote:
He can start in alphabetical order:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Aatrox/Ability_Details

"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

phathom321

United States1730 Posts

August 15 2013 19:27 GMT

#5152

On August 16 2013 04:00 ETisME wrote:
Then what about champions that are great at 1v1 like lebanc (just off my head), got escape mechanics, clear waves quite fast but not good at killing towers?
Is breaking tower fast also a requirement?

Zed is very good 1v1, except he does kill towers pretty fast.

Edit: oh you meant for split pushing. Zed is still good really good, singed and shen are generally your go-to's though because they have easy escape and/or can get into a team fight fairly easily. And killing towers isn't really a requirement, as long as you aren't missing cs and keeping the wave really big behind you you're good.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

August 15 2013 19:30 GMT

#5153

On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:

Show nested quote +

"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.

Gahlo

United States35159 Posts

August 15 2013 19:35 GMT

#5154

On August 16 2013 04:30 Requizen wrote:

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whaaaat? those were my favorite pages, so many little details that I could get there without having to test shit in a bot game.

All the information is probably migrating to the base page in dropdowns.

thenexusp

United States3721 Posts

August 15 2013 19:52 GMT

#5155

On August 16 2013 04:25 XilDarkz wrote:

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"Please update the Additional Information sections on the top page, as Ability Details pages are being retired."

The pages are being retired. Well, it was a nice run.

The ability details are really useful, but do you really have to list for every ability whether it damages Black Shield or not?

Also, apparently troll pole / troll pool will let you avoid the delayed damage from time bombs and sharks, but not hemoplagues or death marks. Inconsistency FTW!
EDIT: Actually not that inconsistent. Untargetable(-but-not-invulnerable) lets you avoid delayed damage that has a visible countdown, but not those that don't. For some reason.
EDIT2: Or it's probably a case of delayed-damage-that-also-has-initial-damage vs the ones that don't.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

August 15 2013 19:52 GMT

#5156

I'm going to say it again, LoL seriously needs a sandbox test mode and a combat log.

kainzero

United States5211 Posts

August 15 2013 19:58 GMT

#5157

It needs replays too.
Replays are in Brood War, for crying out loud.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

August 15 2013 20:05 GMT

#5158

On August 16 2013 04:35 Gahlo wrote:

Show nested quote +

All the information is probably migrating to the base page in dropdowns.

Correct, you can find examples of it on a couple of the champion pages.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Lucian

Basically, instead of having an entire, separate "Ability Details" page, you can just see the details on the main page. It's waaaaay more convenient and snazzy.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

August 15 2013 20:05 GMT

#5159

I find sandbox mode/combat log less excusable to be honest, because there's not really an excuse for Riot to not already have those things for their own internal testing.